David Hogg (Parland Student) stating that clear backpacks infringes on his rights.

[Motownman78]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28609/watch-parkland-student-complains-clear-backbacks-ryan-saavedra

The right is having a field day with this, along with the famous quote "Those that would trade Liberty for a little added security deserve neither and will lose both."

[underpants]

1. Theyve been attacking him for a while

How dare he speak up.

[elehhhhna]

41. They make clear Kevlar backpacks now? That question has shut down a few idiots know my social media.

[underpants]

45. Yeah I heard that one on the radio

Even the local talk radio host was dismissive of that

[dsc]

2. The fact is schools have regulations that no one else would put up with

due to our country's love of guns. My school bans book bags outright unless they are mesh or otherwise see through. This was pre parkland (it was a response to Columbine) but it has recently been enforced more vigorously.

[MichMary]

3. You've got to admit . . .

It is kind of ironic.

[sarisataka]

14. I think most people

Totally missed the irony

[NCTraveler]

28. In order for it to be ironic...

Background checks, waiting periods, modification restrictions, etc. would all have to be a constitutional issue. For the most part, they are not. Restrictions like those are for the most part settled law.

[Oneironaut]

4. Thats truly one of the dumbest policies ever.

Heaven forbid we make it about the guns.

[MichMary]

15. It's probably one of the few changes

that could actually prevent school shootings.

[Motownman78]

25. But a wrapped up sweater

in a clear backpack looks the same with or without a handgun hidden inside the wrapped up sweater.

[cos dem]

30. Right, because most shooters disguise their AR-15s and massive ammo caches in their backpacks?

[Blue_Adept]

5. I expect clear backpacks to be used for all commuter rail, bus stations, etc

going forward. Because I want to ensure that I'm safe on mass transit as well.

[Motownman78]

26. Read my response #25 n/t

[poboy2]

6. Never use that card willy-nilly. He seems silly, but he's young so a pass. Should

argue it doesn't solve anything if he likes, but refrain from the 'infringes on rights'. Its nonsense and only makes him look silly.

[sarah FAILIN]

7. I hate the clear backpacks, BUT..

It has been this way since Columbine. You cant even carry anything into college ballgames like a big purse.. only clear pouches. To complain now seems a bit spoiled to me

[poboy2]

8. yep. Its quite common. Wrong vector of attack. Silly. -nt

[sarah FAILIN]

13. Common in some areas

Some seem to think it's the end of the world, but it is for their safety and they will get over it.

[oberliner]

21. Like taking off our shoes and belts before getting on airplanes

Or putting toiletries into separate clear bags - which I think they stopped requiring that for some reason.

[Motownman78]

27. Read response # 25

And you will see how any attempt to try to secure 100% security is pathetic. Truth of the matter is that unless we want to live in a bubble around each of us, we will never be truly assured of a long life.

[sarah FAILIN]

33. There is always a way to do bad things.

At least clear backpacks help cut down the opportunity. Sweaters and such can always be searched.

[dsc]

9. Are you required to go to college ballgames?

He is required to go to school. It is amazing the extent to which we think kids should have to give up rights so we can avoid dealing with our issues.

[sarah FAILIN]

11. Kids in school have very limited "rights"

The schools make the rules if you plan on going to public school. What to wear, hair length, piercings or hair color is all determined by school rules. Our kids were also not allowed to bring drinks from home because some spoiled kids decided to start day drinking at school and filled their water bottles with vodka. If you don't like the rules you can always choose the home school option which is an option in every county.

[mr_lebowski]

10. Is he legit 'complaining' ... or trying to illustrate the point that he gives up 'rights' for safety

purposes every day he goes to school, therefore, gun-nutters should stop complaining and reciprocate by allowing more regulations on their 'rights' afa firearms? Like, how about some give and take here?

I think knowing the entire context would be useful in this case ...

[sarah FAILIN]

12. It's a new policy for them

Another article someplace said school is like prison now so I take it as complaining. He is a kid. Mine were always complainers when new rules came down too. They grew out of it when they found bigger issues.

[Motownman78]

29. Watch the video. He is complaining

that his 1st Amendment rights are being violated.

[deurbano]

39. I take it the way you take it... that he's illustrating a point using their words.

[Generic Brad]

16. Then conceal and carry fans need to wear cellophane pants

Turnabout is fair play.

[elehhhhna]

42. Thank you

[Generic Brad]

43. That way you would know what everyone's packing

[robbob]

17. Seems to me a determined shooter

could put the guns in plastic shopping bags then put those bags into the clear/mesh backpack. Are they going to outlaw plastic bags as well?

[NCTraveler]

18. Ban guns. This is a distraction.

As the op said, “the right is”. No one person or couple of phrases will distract this movement. Hogg is a leader and they know it. He currently has more power than all of those criticizing him from their mothers basement.

[pintobean]

22. No, he doesn't.

[NCTraveler]

24. Seems he has a larger voice than any of them right now.

He is a major part of this.

Great find by GrabbieNews! Lol There’s a powerhouse.

[pintobean]

23. Not to mention him saying that we can't handle a democracy

only the students can.

[Hortensis]

20. I agree with him, and whatever idiots may be

promoting clear backpacks are overreacting.

[Hortensis]

36. Nuts to that! This isn't a Democrat thing. Idiocy

transcends all political orientations, true, as 20 minutes browsing any political forum proves.

But this particular eagerness to deny and violate the students' right to privacy smells of conservative idiocy in particular, as does using overreaction to fear to justify oppression. Although nonthinkers of all types often sign on foolishly to bad ideas, these are both big conservative signatures.

Btw, you are badly confused about the difference between oppressive authoritarian government and the progressive government safety net that serves the people -- what conservatives call the "nanny state;" and yes we do still have some conservatives in the Democratic Party, but I'm surprised that someone here would be not just using that term but not even understanding what it means.

[Tatiana]

31. He has a point.

At what point is enough enough? TSA is STILL a farce and security theater. I only fly when I have to travel internationally. I don't complain about the additional time, it feels like an invasion of my privacy to be "felt up" just to travel.

And it's this type of erosion of our freedoms that Mr. Hogg is pointing out. Today it's clear backpacks. Tomorrow what will it be? Do females not have the privacy to shield personal products they bring to school? What about medications?

I get the need for security. But there has a to be a balance and we should always question whether eroding our commonly accepted freedoms is truly necessary.

[onethatcares]

38. "A well regulated militia"

being necessary to a free state........"

Which well regulated militia did the Parkland shooter belong to? The Las Vegas shooter? Any of the mass murderers?

Let's look at who's rights are being infringed upon.

We could of course look to the Fourth Amendment for some clarification. Personally, I'll back Mr. Hogg.

[Kingofalldems]

40. Interesting thread I must say.

[sarah FAILIN]

44. I missed it

Seems like there are a lot of holes in the thread now, lol.

[Kingofalldems]

46. I'll say.

[Henry Krinkle]

47. Violates students "1'st amendment rights"?

I hope this kid doesn't plan on going to law school. As stupid as the policy is, he's barking up the wrong
tree, grasping at straws, etc.

Perhaps a better argument might be to state the policy violates their right to privacy under the Due Process Clause
of the 14th Amendment, but good luck with that one too, especially where schools are concerned.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. The DAILYWIRE

Really ?