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malaise

(268,949 posts)
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 08:15 PM Mar 2018

Animals are not stupid - female bears are nursing their cubs for an extra season

since the ban on killing nursing females was enforced.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/27/596998154/new-study-finds-mother-bears-are-sticking-around-with-their-cubs-longer
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Each spring in the global north, brown bears around the world emerge from their dens with new cubs. The cubs come into the world hapless and fragile. Their fathers are long gone; bear mothers must find a way to raise the cubs while surviving themselves.

Female bears generally spend either 1.5 or 2.5 years with their young. In many ways, the pressures of bear life favor the shorter option — a mother with cubs cannot mate, so the more time she spends with each litter, the fewer offspring she'll have over her lifetime.

But a new study of brown bears in Sweden has found a surprising trend: More and more mothers are spending the extra year with their cubs.

"There's about a 30 percent increase in females staying to care for young for an extra year," explains Fanie Pelletier, an ecologist at Sherbrooke University in Quebec, and an author on the study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications. "Early on, in the '80s, almost all females stayed with their young for 1 year and a half," she says. "It's only since 2005 that we have witnessed this increase in the population [that are] staying with their young the extra year."

The trend is tied to a hunting regulation that protects family groups from hunters. It's illegal to shoot mother or cubs when they are together.
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Animals are not stupid - female bears are nursing their cubs for an extra season (Original Post) malaise Mar 2018 OP
'Animals' are smarter than 'humans,' imo; elleng Mar 2018 #1
Damn malaise Mar 2018 #4
Smart Momma Bears! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2018 #2
Hi there malaise Mar 2018 #5
Why shoot a mother bear or cubs? Not a fan of killing animals. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2018 #3
Same here malaise Mar 2018 #6
That's my question too. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2018 #23
It's not clear to me whether the bears changed their behavior, or whether the population WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #7
BINGO! Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #8
Good point but as you say malaise Mar 2018 #9
Correlation is not causation. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #10
Agree n/t malaise Mar 2018 #11
Thank you for this. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #12
Science reporting is consistently some of the least accurate reporting, across outlets. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #13
Amen to that... GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #14
Of course as predators go, brown bears aren't terribly bright misanthrope Mar 2018 #20
Thanks for the info... GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #21
The interviewed ecologist seems to suggest the latter. sl8 Mar 2018 #16
Too bad the article was written like bears were reading hunting regulations and nursing accordingly. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #17
The most parsimonious answer. misanthrope Mar 2018 #18
Thats exactly what I was thinking. The cubs who stay an extra year with mom are more likely to live hedda_foil Mar 2018 #19
Plus the sows are not being shot. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #22
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.. X_Digger Mar 2018 #15

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
23. That's my question too.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:05 PM
Mar 2018

I thought the justification for hunting was that they killed animals for food. Do people eat bears??

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
7. It's not clear to me whether the bears changed their behavior, or whether the population
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 08:37 PM
Mar 2018

of bears that tend to nurse their cubs for shorter periods has been reduced.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
8. BINGO!
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 08:41 PM
Mar 2018

Thank you for not anthropomorphizing what is most likely a simple evolution to a new environmental pressue.

Science, it's your friend.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. Thank you for this.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:01 PM
Mar 2018

Bears keeping their cubs for 1.5 years are being removed from the population at a higher rate than those that keep them for 2.5 years. Evolution in action.

Bears are not smarter than us. They are definitely smarter than their prey as is normal with predators.

I heard the article on NPR and was very disappointed at the way they downplayed the most obvious explanation.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
20. Of course as predators go, brown bears aren't terribly bright
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:03 PM
Mar 2018

A recent study of neuronal densities in a selection of predators or omnivores found brown bears lagging behind the group. The encephalitic quotient was a major portion of it. Bear in mind, said ursines have a highly omnivorous diet of which meat isn't always a majority.

The results appeared to favor social interaction as a pressure favoring neuronal density.

https://www.livescience.com/61104-dogs-brainier-than-cats.html

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. Thanks for the info...
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:37 PM
Mar 2018

And the pun...

Bears are just real interesting to me. They make me think of hogs that hunt. Both will eat meat but with hogs it is more by chance where bears will hunt, in a manner. Both are somewhat self aware. Not mirror test aware, but sure as shit hogs know what is coming come slaughter time. Cows just walk right into it like they are going to graze.

I am often curious where evolution would have taken them. Had not a more rapidly evolved species ending any chance for that to happen.

Have a nice evening

sl8

(13,748 posts)
16. The interviewed ecologist seems to suggest the latter.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:22 PM
Mar 2018
...
"For females, if you leave your cubs at one year and a half, then you become a target during the next hunting season," explains Pelletier. But "if you stay for a bit longer with your cubs, you're protected an extra year. The hunting is filtering out the females that keep their young for a smaller amount of time."
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
17. Too bad the article was written like bears were reading hunting regulations and nursing accordingly.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:26 PM
Mar 2018

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
19. Thats exactly what I was thinking. The cubs who stay an extra year with mom are more likely to live
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:55 PM
Mar 2018

They're better nourished and larger before they're shoved out on their own. They also have a chance to learn a lot more from mom than the kids who have to make it on their own at a much younger age. In some ways, it replicates human evolutionary pressures to protect and teach the young for an extended period of time. Our children are grown enough around 8 for more to make it than not but they do so much better staying with their family for years past that. I bet it's the same thing here.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. Plus the sows are not being shot.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:40 PM
Mar 2018

Add an extra year to their legal protection and I would expect them to become more common.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
15. Post hoc ergo propter hoc..
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:16 PM
Mar 2018

It could be that hunters are selecting for bears who raise their young for a shorter time.

Natural selection, in response to predation. No intelligence required.

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