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I hope Roseannes reboot is all one big satire. One big bait-and-switch.
What do I mean by that, exactly? What I mean is
I hope what Roseanne is secretly doing is showing us how the working-class lost its way and ended up voting for Donald Trump. And that through Darlene moving home, and presenting Roseanne with a gender-fluid grandson, she slowly starts to realize her vote for the #1 bully of all-time was a mistake.
I hope the entire 10th season of Roseanne shows this evolution in Roseannes character Trump supporter realizing the errors of their thinking when presented with modern America. And who knows
maybe Roseanne herself is the only person able to reach these misguided working-class voters.
But if thats not the case, and this isnt one big ploy by Roseanne to change the hearts of Trump supporters, this is required reading for all Americans.
For better or worse, we all know Roseanne Barr is a bit of a bully like Trump.
Roseanne constantly fired people from her show (sound familiar?), viciously attacked critics (I cant wait for her to read this), threatened to sue people, and thrived on constant controversy, celebrity feuds, and tabloid sensationalism. Roseanne and Donny are more similar than one might think.
Is Roseanne the female version of Trump?
Many on her show thought she was a tyrant, something Donald Trump wishes he could be in real life. Which is why all of these similarities between Roseanne and Trump make it all the more ironic and hypocritical when Roseanne attacks the bullies her grandson faces at school for wearing girls clothing.
Roseanne
you literally voted for a man that enabled the bullies that attacked your grandson. To ignore this glaring hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness is mind-boggling. Bullies across our nation were given the green-light to attack minorities when Trump won the Presidency. Roseanne should do some serious self-reflection and soul-searching on how her vote for Trump (the #1 bully of all-time) emboldened the very kids who bullied her grandson.
So all of this hypocrisy begs the question:
How did feminist hero Roseanne Barr go from supporting Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton during the 2008 Democratic primary (even writing a pro-Hillary article for the HuffingtonPost), to supporting Donald J. Trump (con-man and pussy-grabber) for President in 2016?
The answer is simple: Russian bots on Twitter.
After using Twitter to run for President in 2012, Roseanne submerged herself in political propaganda on Twitter (which she has since deleted).
There is no better proof than Roseanne herself that the Russians were successful with their online propaganda campaign. How else do you explain a feminist hero voting for a pussy-grabber over the most qualified woman to ever seek the Presidency?
Putin feared Hillary, and turning former supporters like Roseanne against Hillary was part of the mastermind. The ultimate con in American history to destabilize our nation in Putins favor.
Sadly, Roseanne is using her shows reboot to justify the unjustifiable: voting for a proud bigot who conned working-class people by scapegoating minorities and promising to return us to an America we will never be again.
So how will Roseanne go about justifying the unjustifiable?
By trying to say Hillary was an equally bad candidate the lesser of two evils argument. Which was, after-all, Russias ultimate goal: muddy the waters so the American public thinks both candidates are equally bad.
Neither Trump or Hillary will change anything, so why not give the finger to the establishment by voting for Trump? At least he gives the illusion of being on our side. He looks and sounds like us, right? Burn down the system!!
This is a very petty and immature rationale from a group of people that have felt forgotten by the establishment. But its a rationale I fear far too many working-class people used to convince themselves that Trump (a 4-times bankrupt silver-spoon Daddys boy fraud) was somehow their guy.
Or maybe the working-class simply supported Trump in order to seek revenge against America for feeling ignored? But why is it always liberal Americas job to understand conservative Americas bigotry and ignorance? Didnt 3 million more people vote for Hillary?
Given that blue America is the majority, dont allow Roseanne to use her reboot to justify the unjustifiable. Never allow the minority support of bigot Trump be normalized or rationalized.
So in preparation of Roseannes reboot, I present to you 7 reasons why Roseanne is wrong about Hillary, Trump, and America:
1. Roseannes reboot tackles the skyrocketing cost of prescription medication.
Hillary Rodham Clinton fought for universal healthcare in the early 1990s, and eventually helped pass the Childrens Health Insurance Program a program that covers 8 million children.
Hillary also secured healthcare for 9/11 first-responders as New York Senator, and President Bill Clinton passed the Family and Medical Leave Act.
I guess in addition to believing Russian propaganda, Roseanne doesnt remember history, either.
The Clintons have been tackling the issue of healthcare for decades, and deserve credit for the Childrens Health Insurance Program, and the Family and Medical Leave Act. Two achievements we take for granted now days but are actually a result of the pragmatic Clintons.
Heck, while Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, the Clintons helped expand access to healthcare in poor, poverty stricken communities. Around the same time, Donald Trump was being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination (doesnt Roseanne have an African-American grandaughter in the reboot?).
The Clintons have a long record of achievements on healthcare. Why is this well-known history ignored by Roseanne? Did she forget?
2. Roseanne says Trump talked about jobs.
Hillary talked about jobs, too. But the media never covered it. Studies show that for the most part, the media only covered Hillarys fake e-mail scandal.
Hillary had detailed policy plans to create jobs in 2016 America, such as clean-energy jobs. She even gave numerous speeches on her plans speeches that werent covered by the media.
Meanwhile, con-man Trump promised to bring back coal jobs that will never come back to America. The original Roseanne Conner would have easily seen through Trumps deception. Unfortunately, Roseanne Barr spent too much time on Twitter being subjected to Russian propaganda. I guess technology has unfortunate, unintended consequences?
Roseanne should have spent more time doing independent research regarding Hillarys jobs plan rather than re-tweeting Russian bots on Twitter. Hillary promised green energy jobs of the future. Con-man Trump promised coal jobs that will never come back to America.
Oh and does Roseanne remember that President Bill Clinton created 22 million new jobs during the 1990s?
If you want to talk about jobs, lets remember the prosperous and pragmatic Clinton Era. Meanwhile, con-man Trump shipped jobs overseas to China, stiffed American workers out of contracts, and hired immigrants rather than American workers to build his buildings.
Hillarys jobs plan was crafted for the future. Trumps jobs plan was crafted to con Americans into thinking we could transport back in time.
3. Roseanne says Hillary is a liar, liar, pantsuit on fire.
Thats only if you believe Russian propaganda and 40 years of manufactured Clinton scandals. Hillary was rated by fact-checking websites as the most honest politician running for President in 2016.
Furthermore Hillary has never been found guilty of anything in over 40 years of investigations. I guess that would make Hillary the best liar of all-time, right? 40 years and not a single guilty verdict. Personally, I hope one day there is a book written debunking every single Clinton conspiracy theory.
Meanwhile, Trump has the all-time record for false and misleading statements. No President has ever lied at the rate Trump has lied. There is no distant second. Trump is in a league and category all on his own.
So making a joke about Hillary (who has never been found guilty of anything in 40 years) as being a liar rings hollow when you voted for a man who lies multiple times per-day (maybe even per-hour). I guess there was a true lack of self-awareness when this joke was written? Not only is it hypocritical, it proves Russian bots corrupted Roseannes mind.
Again Hillary was rated by fact-checkers as the most honest 2016 candidate for President. Trump is the biggest liar of all-time. Hillary, unlike Trump, has never been found guilty of anything. Every single Hillary investigation has turned up nothing. No trial. No guilty verdict. The same cant be said of Trump who has been found guilty or settled out of court hundreds of times.
This is yet another example of the Russians trying to muddy the waters and make Hillary seem like just as big of a liar as Trump is. Nothing could be further from the truth.
4. Roseanne says the Clintons are equally as corrupt as Trump.
Roseanne, just like Trump, consistently re-tweeted conspiracy theories about the Clinton Foundation, even though fact-checking websites debunked all of them.
Let us remember: the Clinton Foundation was given a higher charity rating than the Red Cross and provides 11.5 million people with HIV/AIDS medication thats more than half of all those affected by the virus worldwide.
Many of the Clinton Foundation conspiracy theories pushed on Twitter made it seem as though Hillary was just as bad as Trump. However, the Trump Foundation illegally paid off Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi to hide Trump University fraud. Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation helps treat millions of people affected by HIV/AIDS treating more than half of all those affected by the virus worldwide.
Furthermore, the Clintons pay 35% in taxes (what do you pay, Roseanne?). We have yet to see all of Trumps tax returns. Who truly is the corrupt one based on tax-rates?
5. On Jimmy Kimmel, Roseanne said no American should want their President to fail.
So why did Roseanne support Trump, a man who led the racist birther movement against Barack Obama, the first African American President? And no, Hillary was not the original birther as Russian propaganda would have you believe.
Point is why did Roseanne enable and spread the propaganda of those who made it their mission to make Obama a one-term President?
This is yet another example of Roseannes hypocrisy.
If Roseanne actually believes what she is saying, why did she enable and embolden those who wished for Obama to fail as President? The double standard is both maddening and terrifying all at once.
6. Roseanne hates Hillarys foreign policy.
As Secretary of State, Hillary passed the first-ever U.N Resolution on gay rights (proclaiming: human rights are gay rights and gay rights are human rights on the world stage), and made it so trans Americans can legally change their gender on their passport. Hillary also rebuilt relations with every nation after the disastrous Bush Administration, traveling to 112 countries more than any other Secretary of State. Our worldwide favorability rose 20% during Hillarys tenure. Her primary focus was on womens rights and health, bringing up issues such as forced abortion and maternal mortality rates. Hillary re-opened relations with Burma, enacted a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, and killed Osama Bin Laden. She also was instrumental in putting together the Paris Climate Agreement, something Trump has since removed us from.
Roseanne supports Trumps foreign policy because he enables Israels war crimes against the Palestinians. Remember: Trump appealed to all prejudices including prejudices against the Palestinian people. As a Jewish woman, Roseanne is a hardcore supporter of Israel.
Trumps foreign policy consists of Twitter wars with dangerous dictators. How is that better than what Hillary accomplished as Secretary of State?
7. Roseanne hates the Clintons because of NAFTA.
George Bush Senior originally put NAFTA together. Bill Clinton oversaw the implementation of NAFTA due to denying Bush Senior a second term. NAFTA was originally Bushs baby (not Clintons).
Instead of only remember the negatives of the Clinton Era, let us also remember the numerous positives:
4-balanced budgets due to the superb compromising ability of Bill Clinton
Surplus
22 million new jobs
7 million fewer Americans living in poverty
Minimum wage up 20%
Assault Weapons Ban
Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
Northern Ireland peace process
Campaign Against Teen Pregnancy: all-time low abortion rates
Office on Violence Against Women
Violence Against Women Act
Childrens Health Insurance Program (CHIP): 9 million children insured
Tax-credit for low-income Americans
Family and Medical Leave Act
Incomes rising at all income levels
Didnt Roseanne also do well during the 1990s? And yes Roseannes show may have helped Clinton win in 1992. But Clinton resoundingly won re-election in 1996 due to producing results for the American people.
Incomes were rising at all income levels, 22 million new jobs were created, minimum wage was up 20%, more children had healthcare (9 million covered under CHIP), and our country had a blanched-budget and a surplus. We also passed the Family and Medical Leave Act.
Plus, in-case you were wondering, Glass Steagall had nothing to do with the 2008 financial collapse according to fact-checking websites (try blaming Republican George Bush for a change). And sure welfare reform sucked. But thats because we had a GOP-dominated Congress and Bill Clinton was a true pragmatist (exactly what we need in a leader).
On balance, the Clinton Era was a great era for most Americans (including Roseanne). Just look at the long list of accomplishments! Hillarys platform would have ushered in another pragmatic Clinton era, which would be going far better than the current Administration.
The worst thing that ever happened to Roseanne Barr was her Twitter account. She was constantly subjected to pro-Trump and anti-Hillary propaganda, causing her to support the pussy-grabber over the first-female nominee for President. In her Russian corrupted brain, Hillary was just as bad, if not worse, than Trump.
Its truly sad that a former feminist icon didnt support the first-female candidate for President due to Russian propaganda. This former feminist icon opted instead for a well-known misogynist. (And please dont bring up Bill Clinton as your defense because he had consensual affairs and was then held accountable for his transgressions). Trump has yet to be held accountable for his abuse of women, and a true feminist would never support a man like Trump for President.
Unfortunately, Roseanne is going to attempt to use her shows reboot to legitimize Trump and justify her vote for the pussy-grabber. However, as much as Roseanne may try, Trump is not a legitimate President. Donald lost the popular vote by 3 million votes and was elected with Russian help (treason).
I dont care how forgotten you feel by the establishment it is never acceptable to support bigotry, discrimination, scapegoating, sexism, bullying, or hatred. I will never root for this President to succeed so long as he is a bigot filled with hate. Because if Trump succeeds, bigotry will be validated. That is something I will never support and something the original Roseanne Conner never would have supported, either. But the original Roseanne, unlike the Roseanne of the present, wasnt corrupted by the Russians.
Trumps victory aided by Roseanne/Russians on Twitter legitimized bigotry and discrimination everywhere. Roseanne helped the very bullies she defends her grandson against. The embodiment of hypocrisy and irony.
Roseanne fell for the con-man fraud who promised to bring back obsolete coal jobs instead of researching Hillarys jobs plan the media never covered a plan that would have led to huge job growth, powered primarily by clean energy jobs of the future.
Roseanne is the ultimate example of the effectiveness that the Russian propaganda campaign had on Twitter. Roseanne was duped by Russian bots into thinking Hillary was as big of a liar as Trump (fact-checking websites confirm Hillary was the most honest 2016 Presidential candidate while Trump was rated the least honest). Luckily, even without Roseannes support, Hillary still won by 3 million votes. Roseanne will never be a member of the true American majority.
Roseanne is forever a member of the manipulated minority manipulated by both Russian bots and a con-artist that was born with a silver-spoon in his mouth. A man who prides himself on bullying and sexism. A man who cheated working-class people out of contracts his entire life, shipped jobs to China, and hired immigrants over American workers to build his buildings. A man whose tax-plan only benefits people like himself.
The woman who always spoke truth to power and never fell for anyones manipulation finally did at the hands of Russian bots on Twitter. A true American tragedy.
Over 165 million Americans were subjected to Russian propaganda online saying both candidates were equally as bad. So for those that say Russias propaganda campaign had no impact on the election, look no further than Roseanne as exhibit A proof.
Roseanne preferred a relatable con-man over an overqualified elitist woman. Hillary was too smug for Roseannes taste. She preferred the pussy-grabber propaganda artist who looked and sounded like Dan Conner. A con-man who puts billionaires like himself above people like the Conners. A con-man who cheated drywallers like Dan Conner out of money his entire career.
Im still holding out hope this is all satire and in the season finale of the 10th season, Roseanne will admit she was wrong about Trump and that she should have voted for Hillary (you know, the woman who worked for decades on healthcare and whose husband left us a booming economy and surplus). Because after 1 year of a Trump Presidency, can anyone really still say their vote was the right decision? Id give anything to transport back to the Clinton years based on what we currently have now.
Roseanne Barr truly could do our country a great service by helping convince those who voted for Trump that they were wrong. Sadly, shes still on Twitter submerging herself in Russian propaganda believing that the Democrats are just as bad as Republicans. I guess thats how Roseanne went from supporting Hillary in 2008 to now supporting Trump.
Thankfully, Hillary still won by 3 million votes despite Roseanne betraying women and supporting a sexist bigot. Im proud to stand with the 66 million majority who voted for the slogan Stronger Together. Trumps Electoral College victory will never represent me or the majority of Americans.
Sadly, I guess false promises and scapegoating can even manipulate those you once viewed as idols. Maybe birds of the bullying feather truly do flock together?
So please defend Hillary and tweet @therealroseanne when she bashes Hillary with lies on her shows reboot.
Because we need to declare once and for all: Hillary is not nor has she ever been just as bad as Trump. Just ask the millions of people who receive HIV/AIDS medication from the Clinton Foundation over half of all those affected by the virus worldwide. Or look at the hundreds of guilty Trump convictions vs. the zero guilty convictions for Hillary. Or the fact that the Clintons gave us 4-balanced-budgets while Trump had 4-bankruptcies. Or Hillarys work at the Childrens Defense Fund investigating African American juveniles being placed in adult prisons. Or the Clintons working tirelessly on the Childrens Health Insurance Program and the Family and Medical Leave Act.
Face it Roseanne: you were duped by two abusive, sexist men (Putin and Trump) into hating Hillary, the first woman to run on a major partys ticket for President, and who will become a bigger feminist icon than you could ever dream of becoming. Critics always said Roseanne hated other women who were more powerful than her. Did Hillary take your crown, Roseanne?
The old Roseanne Conner is a true feminist icon.
The new Roseanne Conner voted for the sexist pussy-grabber, which enabled bullies everywhere (ie: the kids who bullied her grandson).
PS: Or maybe Roseanne simply wanted Trump to win so there would be a reason for her show to be given a reboot?
Never normalize the con-man bigot silver-spoon fraud.
Aristus
(66,275 posts)I'm still with H---->er!
Now and forever.
iluvtennis
(19,825 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)What was done to her is so depressing.
Yet she still received 3 million more votes despite it all.
A true warrior.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hillary is out of the picture. Now it's about Trump and the country.
If the OP thinks Roseanne will be a bait and switch and realize her errors in the end, well, how likely is it that Trumpers will change? You might as well ask how likely it is that George Bush will realize the Iraq War was wrong? No, they will go to their graves insisting they were right. It's not that they can't see. It's that they refuse to see.
This new show is BAD NEWS for the country. Roseanne is a full fledged Trumper. Trump called her to congratulate her on her new show and the ratings bonanza, if anyone needed proof.
This show is a long advertisement for Trump. If there's anything we know, it's that advertising works. This is bad news.
But it also presents an idealized view of Trumpers. In reality, the Trumpers I know are more hateful and crude. It's not about "I almost lost my house." It's about not letting refugees into the country as long as we have any homeless Americans. It's about the white race. It's about "them librals" trying to take away our guns. It's about illegal immigrants. It's about hating in general the liberals, transgenders in the bathrooms, immigrants, non-whites. It's about trade agreements that cost American jobs. They blame their problems on the giving of rights to others, and particularly on the trade agreements. They are not like Roseanne, calmly stating why they voted for Trump, and it's only related to jobs and a system rigged against them. But that is likely how they see themselves.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Both of them will say or do anything to get what they want...
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Which is what Spanky is.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Not gonna watch it. Explains what she said on the Kimmel show last night, when he asked about Trump. She said something like giving him a chance, we all need to work for America, and if people are unhappy, then deal with that in two years. I thought...what? He won't be there in two years, most of the country hopes.
Well, that explains that. But I was never a huge fan of the show, anyway.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)pbmus
(12,422 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She's not necessarily a Republican. She seems to be all over the place, as far as that goes. But she's a Trump supporter.
She was serious on Kimmel last night. Everyone work together for America, give things a chance, and if you're unhappy, deal with it in two years.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)were for real Trumper statements. Her real views.
Trump called her to congratulate her on her new show and the ratings, if anyone needed proof.
No, she's not going to "realize she was wrong" in the end. She's a Trumper for real. This is how they think. Fake news, swamp, deep state, ...everything Trump says.
One line in her show that she says on the trailer is that one of the reasons she voted for him is that he was going to shake things up.
This show is bad news, BTW. It's one looooooong advertisement for Trump by a beloved star. We know for a fact that advertising works. This is not good news for the country.
In the trailer her sister Jackie is portrayed as a wild eyed wacko wearing a pink pussy cap...her eyes were literally bulging out as she screams her viewpoint, while Roseanne is sitting and matter of factly stating why she voted for Trump and with a smile a time or two. Advertising. For Trump.
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Great details and references, worth reading, keep posting stuff like this!
Upthevibe
(8,006 posts)Thank you...I'll digest it when I can....
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)but I wish these facts would see more light. This stuff needs to be out there for the American people to see. Thank you for making it.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Another Roseanne= Trumper aspect is that the show is completely ignoring a year of its own history (Dan died!) -- just like Trumpers can completely believe that his bankruptcies never happened.
Magical thinking is easy in TV.
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)...birth control, domestic abuse, feminism, etc.
The original series truly is brilliant. The reboot? Not so much.
emulatorloo
(44,057 posts)My body, my Choice was explicitly stated by one of the main characters. It is not as simple as some are making it out to be. They are still dealing with social issues, there are liberal characters, and there are characters that typical Trumpians will be very uncomfortable with. It is not simple RAh Rah Trump.
Thanks for your OP, appreciate the time you took to write it.
Cha
(296,774 posts)Thank you for those compelling graphics and the history!
nolabear
(41,930 posts)Its funny. It skewers multiple sides a little but largely focuses on what it always did, the family interactions among a bunch of caricatured people.
I think her political views are crackers but frankly I saw more exposure for them in that OP than I have anywhere else. I like Sara Gilbert and Laurie Metcalf and I adore John Goodman. All three are liberals. Theyre depicted as such. But theyre depicted as complicated too. As with shows like Blackish they seem to be wrestling with things.
And theyre really funny.
Ill see where it goes.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)But Roseanne voted for a bully. So how can she defend her grandson against bullies? Hypocritical.
The original series had a better flow and rhythm. But I think the chemistry will get better as the season progresses.
I just still see Roseanne as a character who was able to see through BS con-artists. Trump is the ultimate con-artist. It just doesn't make sense that feminist Roseanne would vote for a pussy-grabber.
nolabear
(41,930 posts)between character and actor. I saw an interview with her, Goodman and Gilbert (who is the person who got the band back together) and they seemed to get along well while not dodging that crazy things happened last time. Who knows...
Yes, the second one was better. I like the kid.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)Then she got on Twitter and bought Russian/right-wing propaganda about Hillary. She's the ultimate proof the Russian propaganda campaign worked. Roseanne re-tweeted about "pizzagate."
I really wish Roseanne would use her working-class appeal to convince Trump supporters they were wrong. The original Roseanne Conner would have done exactly that.
xor
(1,204 posts)I don't recall all the specifics, but I remember her coming off as way more cray-cray than I would have thought. Although, I would have thought she was more Jill Stein supporter than anything else.
nolabear
(41,930 posts)Extreme Hillary supporter who somehow voted for Stein without meaning to.
xor
(1,204 posts)Probably the first sitcom I've watched in over a decade (nostalgia thing) I'm with you on seeing where it goes...
LisaM
(27,792 posts)I also don't entirely trust Roseanne to not decide to suddenly turn the tables. I think she finds it funny to play people. So, we'll see. The first episode was okay
JI7
(89,239 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)I had lots of things I wanted to unpack with this post.
I can't believe how much BS Hillary has faced in her life. So depressing
tikka
(762 posts)Her comment about wanting our president to succeed was so disingenuous. People said give Cadet Bonespurs a chance. He's had a year and has proven to be most corrupt, incompetent, and traitorous president ever.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Not likely to watch the reboot.
The clip I saw was of her blabbering nonsense while John Goodman said very little. I know they supposedly were trying to make each other laugh, but John did not seem to agree with her.
The last show of her in Hawaii was simply gross. One of the worst Reality shows. On a par with Honey Boo Boo.
C Moon
(12,208 posts)videohead5
(2,164 posts)You want Charles Manson to succeed as president.
Raine
(30,540 posts)she's not going to have her character go off in a different direction.
Mike Nelson
(9,942 posts)...what Rosanne is up to - but your post is exceptionally well written!
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)after ABC made her delete her archives, clean her act up and pretend she backed Trump for "working class" reasons.
Here's the version we had on Twitter til January that the network would prefer you not see:
Completely batshit, unhinged and in total disregard of any sort of facts.
Kimmel's "debate" with her last week was a whitewash and he let her spew her revisionist take on her views unchallenged.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)when I hear about how Trump- a ridiculously wealthy degenerate con man- was looked at by some "working class" folks as their salvation.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)We vote not only with ballots, but with our choices. I choose not to watch any show associated with this lunatic.
oasis
(49,317 posts)are worth wasting a minute of time trying to figure out.
helpisontheway
(5,004 posts)Democrat until a black man was elected president. They could not handle the fact that a black man was the leader of the free world. They were angry because that happened. She probably gravitated towards Trump when he started spouting that birther crap.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Is A QUICK CANCELLATION of the show. #BoycottRosanne
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)I'm boycotting everything right wing.
betsuni
(25,367 posts)Bookmarked for future use.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)wishstar
(5,267 posts)For same reason I would not watch Tim Allen's last show due to his anti-Obama snarks, I won't watch Roseanne's new show. I prefer more escapist entertainment than wasting my time watching prominent stars who have become rightwing nuts having to get in their digs against Democrats.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)wishstar
(5,267 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)Leith
(7,807 posts)I knew all this about HRC - and that she worked on the Watergate investigation (no, she was NOT fired). It's why my vote for her in 2016 was my most rock solid one so far in my 40 years of voting.
rethugs are at their shittiest when they denigrate her. The close second shittiest is when they protect and defend the shitgibbon White House squatter.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)Anybody able to be influenced so easily by them was already at a loss for critical thinking skills and/or already disliked HRC. I thought all of the Russian/GOP/NRA-sponsored anti-HRC propaganda was nonsense and paid no attention to it whatsoever.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)but for some reason, corporate Democrats can't unload about stuff Republicans have done for DECADES unless they blame Russia now.
It is almost as if they are auditioning to be the new war party.
If I'm wrong, I'd be glad to see the evidence that someone has an endgame for all this Russia-bashing besides an effort at regime change or war, either of which would be risking a nuclear exchange.
Initech
(100,029 posts)How did feminist hero Roseanne Barr go from supporting Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton during the 2008 Democratic primary (even writing a pro-Hillary article for the HuffingtonPost), to supporting Donald J. Trump (con-man and pussy-grabber) for President in 2016?
The answer is simple: Russian bots on Twitter.
I know people who easily supported and voted for Obama in 2008 and even in 2012. But in 2016 they turned into stark raving lunatics because they bought into the Russian propaganda - became hardcore Fox bots and tuned into Infowars and Breitbart on regular occasions. And you can't deal or reason with them. Fuck Putin.
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)Initech
(100,029 posts)We used to be a lot more civil to each other before that piece of shit network came along. Now we're more divided than ever.
dalton99a
(81,386 posts)Thanks!
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,956 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)And i like everyone BUT her.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)Tbear
(486 posts)" the most qualified woman to ever seek the Presidency? "
correct to:"probably the most qualified person to ever seek the Presidency"
Who gives a crap what Roseanne Barr thinks anyway?
TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)misanthrope
(7,408 posts)She used to go on screeds about "the New World Order" and similar conspiracies, was a fervent anti-Zionist who compared the State of Israel to "Nazis" and blamed much of her erratic public image on emotional disorders. Then she became a Likudist who branded Muslims with the "Nazi" label and bought into Pizza-gate full bore.
Yeah, that sounds like the very model of reasoned judgement.
So this wealthy celebrity with a macadamia nut farm in a tropical paradise has the nerve to sit in a faux-blue collar domicile on a soundstage, dressed in imitation poor folks threads carefully rumpled beneath a visage obviously enhanced with cosmetic surgeries and deign to show how "regular folks" see and feel and think?
I'm glad she's done it. I want her to become synonymous with Trumpism because she's a transparent fraud and basket case just like the POTUS she loves so much.
greyl
(22,990 posts)TreeStarsForever
(392 posts)I wonder if she will be forced to explain these photos at length, though.
greyl
(22,990 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Propaganda 101.
She was put back on the air to normalize Trump and his policies.