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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould Jeff Sessions fire Rosenstein if ordered to do so by Donald Trump?
I'm thinking that he probably would. After all, he fired McCabe.
If Rosenstein was fired, who would replace him?
And how would it help Donald Trump, unless the replacement agreed to fire Mueller? And even if Mueller were to be fired, would that end the woes of Donald Trump? Would not the investigation continue anyway?
More and more, it is becoming clear that firing people is not the solution to Trump's problems. The only solution is that he is innocent of all these charges and conspiracies. And very few people truly believe he is innocent of anything.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)In Case Of Firing - Pull Here
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Many people today view Jeff Sessions as a mealy-mouth coward who did Trumps perverse bidding in firing Andrew McCabe. Theres room, however, for a different take. Perhaps Jeff Sessions knew that Trumps demand that he fire McCabe was a heads I win, tales you lose gambit. If Sessions fired McCabe, Trump would succeed in savagely punishing an enemy and further may have soiled the reputation of a key witness and cast doubt on Mueller himself. But if Sessions did not fire McCabe, Trump could view Sessions failure to act as insubordination and use it as grounds to justify firing Sessions giving Trump a more direct path to terminate Mueller. So Sessions decided to sacrifice McCabe in order to keep his own job and live for another day so that he, in turn, could keep Rosenstein and Mueller in their jobs.
You have to say this: despite endless humiliations at the hand of Donald Trump, Jeff Sessions has not quit. By staying in his job, Sessions has thrown his own body in front of Rod Rosenstein, and, therefore, the entire Mueller investigation. Something in me says that when the history is finally written, Jeff Sessions may actually emerge as a patriot. A soiled patriot, to be sure, but a patriot nonetheless.
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Got a funny feeling that Mueller and crew have laid out some trip-wires for Trump to stumble on.
BTRTN's take:
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Heres our theory. If word flashed out on the newswires that Donald Trump has removed Jeff Sessions, Robert Mueller will immediately before Trump can get to his next step -- deliver his findings on obstruction to Rod Rosenstein. Once that report is officially in the hands of Rosenstein and the DOJ, it will be impossible to suppress it.
In short, if Donald Trump fires Robert Mueller, Mueller will instantly activate a report that details truly impeachable offenses. Trump will have pulled the trigger on his own demise.
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NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The fact that he hasnt makes me think no.
Im convinced Sessions want to increase the focus of the Justice Dept in certain areas and then go home to take on Jones. Alabamas favorite son wants to come home.
Zoonart
(11,844 posts)investigation, is that the congress is in recess and tRump can make a recess appointment to the job of AG. That means no confirmation hearings for a couple of months. He can appoint any flunkie that will do his bidding.
PJMcK
(22,025 posts)As a New Yorker, I've seen Trump's life blazoned across the local tabloids since the 1980s. His so-called successes were mated with the lurid details of his sex life. He is such a low-life bag of dirt that I've never understood anyone who would admire him. His lying, cheating and sordid business dealings were right out in front for all to see.
Nonetheless, he bamboozled many people and continued to live a fantasy life. He should have continued it.
It was a colossal error to run for president. He has opened himself and his family business to legal review. There is no way that Trump can survive such scrutiny. The criminality that must underlie so much of his business will be exposed and the penalties could be annihilating.
Had Trump simply continued floating just beneath the surface, he could have lived out his fantasy life in peace. But now, there is so much trouble around Trump and it's coming from many different directions. No clown can juggle that many balls.
kentuck
(111,074 posts)He must have known that being in the White House would be much different than being in Trump Tower. Of course, he probably never expected to win.... just running for the presidency was expected to boost his image and give him more power in his ongoing business negotiations.
that a narcissistic sociopath truly believes that he can control any situation and all of the people around him by sheer force of his will. We are seeing if that will work for him right now. Being a NS does not, however, mean one is brilliant. He never understood that he would be punching way above his weight class.