Thoughts on the 2020 Census Citizenship question for today

[deminks]

The citizenship question was removed from the 10 year survey in 1950. Prior to that, there were no civil rights, no minority voting rights, and minority communities were systematically underreported.

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The citizenship question was never used to enforce voting rights act, since the VRA was passed in 1965.

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The citizenship question is not now needed to enforce the voting rights act. Districts will be redrawn with the citizenship question on a basis of citizens rather than people.

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Red states will lose money, too.

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12 states have filed suit against adding the question to the 2020 Census.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/washington-joins-other-states-suing-over-census-citizenship-question/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=article_left_1.1

Attorney General Eric Schneiderman of New York said he was leading a multistate lawsuit to stop the move, and officials in Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Washington said they would join the effort. The state of California filed a separate lawsuit late Monday night.

Do not let the GrOPers lie to you. There is no good reason for adding this question.

[nature-lover]

1. There was not a census in 1965. She is losing it - well, I don't know if she ever had it.

[OnDoutside]

2. I think it was on MJ this morning that the citizenship question wasn't on the SHORT form census form

since 1950, but was on the Long Form census form up to about 10 years ago. The LF is given to about 16% of the population, along with a lot more questions. What looks to be the issue here is that the Republicans want it re-introduced, but to the short form and the long form.

here is the 2000 Census info

The "Informational Copy" shows the content of the United States Census 2000 "long" form questionnaire. Each household will receive either a short form (100-percent questions) or a long form (100-percent and sample questions). The long form questionnaire includes the same 6 population questions and 1 housing question that are on the Census 2000 short form, plus 26 additional population questions, and 20 additional housing questions. On average, about 1 in every 6 households will receive the long form. The content of the forms resulted from reviewing the 1990 census data, consulting with federal and non-federal data users, and conducting tests.

https://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/d-61b.pdf

[awesomerwb1]

3. Despicable POS

this lady is.

I have to give it to these guys. They are searching left and right non-stop for ways to screw over immigrants.

[MosheFeingold]

4. It's been on there

In the long form (sent to 1/6 households) basically forever.

The short form asks number of people, ages, names, sex, and (somewhat creepy to me as one who fled Nazi Germany) race/ethnicity.

The objections that this is illegal are stupid. It's not illegal.

You have, however, a right to not incriminate yourself. So while a person may not lie, they can simply leave that question blank if it would incriminate them to answer truthfully. Refusal to answer cannot be used against you.

[Freelancer]

5. Why would anybody here illegally answer NO to citizen question?

Like they're going to check? If you put 'yes' and somebody in the 'system' flags that, you must already be on somebody's radar, and your door is likely to be knocked on at some point anyway.