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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 04:16 PM Mar 2018

...........will likely result in him dying penniless in prison........



will likely result in him dying penniless in prison.
will likely result in him dying penniless in prison.
will likely result in him dying penniless in prison.
will likely result in him dying penniless in prison.

Tale end of a piece abut Trump's outcome re: Mueller and/or Schneiderman applying asset forfeiture.

And I like the sound of it SO much I just wanted to read it over and over and over again.

asset forfeiture.
asset forfeiture.

Mmmmm...has SUCH a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
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...........will likely result in him dying penniless in prison........ (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 OP
Imagine the party the Universe will throw itself on that day. NightWatcher Mar 2018 #1
Once he's broke and doing time ... lpbk2713 Mar 2018 #2
Thom Hartmann said today that he Ilsa Mar 2018 #3
After Yesterday's Mueller Filings, Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #6
Well this is something, Hartmann & Twitter 20 Committee have all stated this. Wwcd Mar 2018 #10
I think it will be huge as well, with Ilsa Mar 2018 #11
haaha. "miserable and even fatter than usual." Wwcd Mar 2018 #12
'..and his cult.' Volaris Mar 2018 #24
Yes. They are the true underbelly of society Wwcd Mar 2018 #25
I REALLY............ MyOwnPeace Mar 2018 #33
Especially his cult. At the end of the day, this is their fault. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2018 #40
Amen to that. He has inflicted so much pain on people Ilsa Mar 2018 #54
IQ45!!!!! calimary Mar 2018 #48
I am not getting my hopes up right now. too many rumors floating around. riversedge Mar 2018 #28
Music To My Ears Me. Mar 2018 #36
Indeed ME 🕊 Wwcd Mar 2018 #47
I Would Love To See Him Me. Mar 2018 #51
That would be BEYOND sweet. calimary Mar 2018 #59
He does. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #14
Careful. That analogy is much beloved by the Right Wing who claim a "soft coup" is happening. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #16
I think Thom Hartmann is usually pretty spot on. Listen whenever I get a chance. blueinredohio Mar 2018 #50
Dream Big SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #4
He's campaigning now. louis-t Mar 2018 #8
He'll be fine . . . enid602 Mar 2018 #5
Guilt toilets? louis-t Mar 2018 #9
tRump guiltily tweets his guiltiness daily from his guilt toilet. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #17
guilt toilet Exotica Mar 2018 #26
Slob enid602 Mar 2018 #42
I hope they have Louis XVI furniture . . . . hatrack Mar 2018 #22
You gets the Duzy!!!!! dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #27
There are porn stars in prison. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2018 #34
Would you repeat that? gibraltar72 Mar 2018 #7
More Please! Wwcd Mar 2018 #13
No more finger-licking chicken barrels or Big Macs for tubby. Hassler Mar 2018 #15
just lots of fake eggs with ketchup dameatball Mar 2018 #23
Love it malaise Mar 2018 #18
Not gonna happen. progressoid Mar 2018 #19
Should Bring Back This Thread In 2 Years SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #44
That remains the one nagging dark cloud in the back of my imagination. calimary Mar 2018 #49
IKR? progressoid Mar 2018 #57
What should we call Trump tower once the public owns it? askyagerz Mar 2018 #20
Suggestion: Convert Trump Tower to a shelter for battered women. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #29
Perfect! askyagerz Mar 2018 #31
Yes! The Ellis Island of the 21st Century. And Mara Lago... Wwcd Mar 2018 #41
Have you heard how Trump is profiting from the hush hush chain migration scam? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #56
I've seen a news report on the Asian/West Coast version of this but didn't know how Trump Wwcd Mar 2018 #58
Yaaaaz. Love it. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #21
I'll Settle for Trump NOT BEING PRESIDENT Fog Off Mar 2018 #30
Won't someone think of the children??? BobTheSubgenius Mar 2018 #32
Don't count him out yet. We hate him but he has been resilient for the last 50 years. njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #35
Coming Here Is Like Visiting Oz SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #45
It's partly why Stormy & McDougal stories are worth monitoring Jarqui Mar 2018 #37
There is an argument to be made that she was complicit in keeping his meetings secret. lindysalsagal Mar 2018 #43
He is already known as toxic to US banks. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #61
Trump is a symptom. Putin is the problem. Initech Mar 2018 #38
Well its starting to look like the best option for funding the wall meadowlander Mar 2018 #39
About those assets... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #52
it might make me reconsider my atheism TalenaGor Mar 2018 #46
Even in the best case scenario, Trump will never spend a single day in prison. Calista241 Mar 2018 #53
I'm sorry what did I miss? Poiuyt Mar 2018 #55
Was reading about Mueller and/or Schneiderman can apply asset forfeiture dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #62
This is becoming Shakespearean...Macbeth... NNadir Mar 2018 #60
Funny you should say that... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2018 #63

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. Imagine the party the Universe will throw itself on that day.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 04:18 PM
Mar 2018

Sometimes planning his Go To Prison Party is the only thing that keeps me hanging on.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
3. Thom Hartmann said today that he
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 04:25 PM
Mar 2018

knows someone in DC who recently said that Mueller has enough information on the campaign to "decapitate the administration." Pence would be out, too.

But that's coming from TH. Who knows how accurate this could be?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. After Yesterday's Mueller Filings,
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 04:28 PM
Mar 2018

tend to agree.

And Trump is Broke,if in doubt,look at his Business Model,it is one massive Kiting Scheme.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
10. Well this is something, Hartmann & Twitter 20 Committee have all stated this.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 04:44 PM
Mar 2018

Imagine Thom, Louise, Garland, Taylor, Countercheckist, Tea Pain finding common ground when the final toll of The Trump Syndicate is busted up.

Trump
Trump kids
Attorneys past & present
Campaign staff
Cabinet
Trump Admin
Pence
Nunes
Ryan
McConnell
Rohrbacher
...
...
...
...
...
...

Its been said Mueller has at least 100+ indictments which include mostly GOP but also some Others in House & Senate.


I believe they are all correct.
They do know by now the list of complicit players is massive & it extends from within our own gov't & around the world.



Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
11. I think it will be huge as well, with
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 05:13 PM
Mar 2018

referrals to other jurisdictions for some prosecutions.

No wonder IQ45 looks miserable and evven fatter than usual.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
12. haaha. "miserable and even fatter than usual."
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 05:21 PM
Mar 2018


I wish him many, many fat & miserable days.
He's earned every one.

I think of all the dreamers & immigrants, the families ripped apart by his cruelty. Some took their own lives out of fear of deportation.
He deserves the same fear & removal from the life of obscene luxury he has always known.

May karma deal appropriately with this man & his cult.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
24. '..and his cult.'
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:17 PM
Mar 2018

Damn straight. I want these idjits back under their fuckin rocks for at least 50 years after this...it's appx how long the rest of us will need to clean up this mess they made and move forward into the 21st century again.

MyOwnPeace

(16,924 posts)
33. I REALLY............
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:33 PM
Mar 2018

like the way you framed the issue - that "THING" (you know, IQ45) deserves all of what he should get because of those he has walked over.

Well said!

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
54. Amen to that. He has inflicted so much pain on people
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:00 PM
Mar 2018

who are trying so hard to get ahead, and he doesn't know the meaning of hard work.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
47. Indeed ME 🕊
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:36 PM
Mar 2018

The damage done to humanity, the good in us that President Obama secured thru his trust has been challenged in the face of cruelty & remorseless indignation.

The entire Trump/Putin syndicate should be destroyed forever.

Wish Obama could make a speech to the Nation about now. Remind us again of our great America, because it has been fractured under this coup & something about Barrack Obama has a coalescing effect we could use a dose of again.


Me.

(35,454 posts)
51. I Would Love To See Him
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:45 PM
Mar 2018

but best, given the nature of the deplorables that he stay in the background. However, we don't know what he's doing on the QT.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. He does.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:08 PM
Mar 2018

So far he is looking at a foreign county that used hacking, and the hands on physical involvement of non-US citizens to throw the election,
he has proof that Congress members...quite a few of them-- have worked together in a conspiracy against this country, and then broke numerous, serious laws to cover up what they have done.
We all just found out that a key member of the Republican party accepted and passed on bribes to Congress members for favorable National policy moves against one country, for the benefit of the country that paid the bribes.

Last week it was revealed the son in law of the President was proving secret US Intelligence to the head of a country that used the information to pull off a coup.
Mueller is looking at the whole family, actually, for money laundering, obstruction. Might be some spy charges against Kushner around the use of Gov. secrets.
Plus there are so many obstruction , perjury, witness tampering charges (all felonies) to fit everyone involved in the WH, and Congress, esp. the House of Representatives.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
16. Careful. That analogy is much beloved by the Right Wing who claim a "soft coup" is happening.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:09 PM
Mar 2018

Democrats and progressives and liberals must be careful to avoid using RepubliCONNING terminology.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
4. Dream Big
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 04:26 PM
Mar 2018

People really think all these things are going to happen to him? I'll be surprised if he's not campaigning for the 2020 election in a couple of years, let alone penniless.

enid602

(8,607 posts)
5. He'll be fine . . .
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 04:27 PM
Mar 2018

Just don't tell him there are no porn stars in prison. Or junk food. Or Louis XIV furniture. Or guilt toilets. Or a series of 60 inch flat screen TV's on the wall. Or Twitter.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
44. Should Bring Back This Thread In 2 Years
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:12 PM
Mar 2018

I'm sure people will still be saying how Drumpf is going to get what's coming to him.

Just like Rove. And Cheney. And Libby. And Shrub. They'll all get there's.

calimary

(81,181 posts)
49. That remains the one nagging dark cloud in the back of my imagination.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:21 PM
Mar 2018

I keep wondering when his luck is finally gonna run out.

I keep wondering IF his luck is finally gonna run out.

SunSeeker

(51,546 posts)
29. Suggestion: Convert Trump Tower to a shelter for battered women.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:23 PM
Mar 2018

Central location. Close to public transportation. Plenty of room for mom and her kids to stay together. Good secure entrance to keep the abusers out.

Of course, it would have to be renamed. Dreamers Tower works.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
31. Perfect!
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:30 PM
Mar 2018

I couldn't think of a better use! Give all the kids paint and crayons and let them go hog wild on those gold walls lol

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
41. Yes! The Ellis Island of the 21st Century. And Mara Lago...
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:00 PM
Mar 2018

the Dreamers Welcome Center of the Southern USA.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
56. Have you heard how Trump is profiting from the hush hush chain migration scam?
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:14 PM
Mar 2018

You bring Russian women to America to give birth.
The women and /or their responsible boyfriend/husband/family pay a 100 grand or more for the privilege of staying in a fla. condo just before and after the birth.
Dr., hospital, etc. provided.
Have the kid, who is naturally now a USA kid, Momma applies to stay to raise the kid, or if that does not work, family goes back to their country of origin, waits till the kid is a legal adult, he/she moves back to USA and can start legal paperwork for Mom and rest of family.
Some of the Russians are friends of Trump, and use his condos. He makes rent, lots of money washing around from just this scheme alone.

btw...on the West Coast, Cal. is having same thing happen but with Asian women.
I am sure it is not limited to only 2 states.
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
58. I've seen a news report on the Asian/West Coast version of this but didn't know how Trump
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:28 PM
Mar 2018

had turned this into a RU marketing scam.
Human beings mean nothing to him but a means to profit.

He is truly a sociopath.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
45. Coming Here Is Like Visiting Oz
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:14 PM
Mar 2018

We're off to see the Wizard, and he's going to give us everything we want. He's all powerful.

There is no wizard, and there usually is no justice. This won't be any different I'm sad to say.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
37. It's partly why Stormy & McDougal stories are worth monitoring
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:49 PM
Mar 2018

Melania would be wise to cash in while she still can and I bet someone has already suggested it or is working on it for her. if Melania waits until he's impeached, it might be too late. The unprotected sex with women who work in the sex trade probably provides her with a legal out.

All this stuff going on with Mueller and the other lawsuits and/or the very recent UAE Trump scandal make people nervous. Trump is in real estate/properties which require financing to leverage his wealth and his businesses require financing. When bankers get nervous, they start to call their loans or increase interest rates. That puts greater pressure on Trump to cash flow his businesses/properties - which is probably how he got involved with the Russians in the first place. When potential customers get nervous, they take their business elsewhere. Once impeached, the Russian oligarchs will call their loans because he is no longer of much value to them. There has to be a fairly high risk that Trump's financial house of cards is going to come tumbling down.

So political cost is not the only concern for Trump ... or his wife and Trump may well die in prison though it won't likely be penniless because he'll have pensions or some dough stashed in things folks can't touch (unless they nail him on tax evasion ..).

lindysalsagal

(20,640 posts)
43. There is an argument to be made that she was complicit in keeping his meetings secret.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:08 PM
Mar 2018

She might not have known exactly which law he might be breaking, but if she gets hauled in with videos and photos to confirm, she'd better fess up, pronto, or she IS guilty of aiding and abetting.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
61. He is already known as toxic to US banks.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 02:32 PM
Mar 2018

After the casinos went bust, no US banks would lend money, but his pal Wilbur Ross, vice-chairman of the Bank of Cyprus, stepped in.
His reward for that is he is now being investigated for crony Russian relationships via the bank after Trump made him Commerce Sec.

There has to be a fairly high risk that Trump's financial house of cards is going to come tumbling down.

Yep. It's called asset forfeiture. Both Mueller and the New York USA, Schneiderman can charge Trump for RICO, and money laundering, and grab everything he owns.

I really get the idea that Mueller's incredibly wide range of investigations and now charges, is a legal form of destroying the bad guys and salting the earth afterwards.

All the best to him, I say. All the best.

Initech

(100,055 posts)
38. Trump is a symptom. Putin is the problem.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:50 PM
Mar 2018

Trump is a useful idiot. Putin will cast him aside when he feels he is done with Trump. And Putin can get any number of lackeys to do his evil work for him. Until we kick Putin's ass, I wouldn't party just yet.

meadowlander

(4,393 posts)
39. Well its starting to look like the best option for funding the wall
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:52 PM
Mar 2018

Let’s seize all of Trump’s personal assets and use them for a wall around Russia.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
52. About those assets...
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:56 PM
Mar 2018

wonder if the creditors get their money back and the Gov. keeps what's left, or if the banks are SOL.

All he owns is mostly debt.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
46. it might make me reconsider my atheism
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

Probably not LOL but if anything could.... Pure Justice like that would do it

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
53. Even in the best case scenario, Trump will never spend a single day in prison.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:57 PM
Mar 2018

Pence will pardon him with his first official act, and even if we win back the house, and Pence has to resign / or is impeached himself, and Nancy Pelosi becomes President; the first thing she'd do is pardon the President.

None of them will want 99% of what they do concerned with the former President; and frankly, the office of the President needs to be focused on America, and moving the country forward, not focused on crimes committed by just another citizen. Precedent on this matter has already been set, and it's one of the easiest decisions the next President will make.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
55. I'm sorry what did I miss?
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:05 PM
Mar 2018

There's so much shit floating around that I don't know what specifically you're referring to.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
62. Was reading about Mueller and/or Schneiderman can apply asset forfeiture
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:17 PM
Mar 2018

to people found guilty of laundering money, which, in Trump's case, involves so many people it meets criteria for
racketeering, also known as R.I.C.O.
Thus the prediction of trump in prison, a thought which can bring cheer to many.

NNadir

(33,511 posts)
60. This is becoming Shakespearean...Macbeth...
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 02:18 PM
Mar 2018

Replace "Birnam Wood" with "Stormy" and "Dunsinane" with "Washington"

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
63. Funny you should say that...
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:22 PM
Mar 2018

A book, Game Change, was written about the McCain/Palin race. Very well written, and a movie followed, also very good.

I had said only a couple of weeks ago that I hoped the same would be true with Trump....meaning a well written book.

Yesterday I read that Fire and Fury is gonna be a movie. The book is not "great" but I am sure there is now plenty to add to a movie.

this being America, we will probably not get close to Shakespeare level, but still....
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