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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:19 PM Mar 2018

I am doing my best not to feel personal hatred towards Trump...

...as a Christian, I feel that no one is beyond redemption. I prayed for bin Laden after 9/11, for his soul and that he would see how he had gone off the path towards evil. I remember people shunning me for that, even saying I was unpatriotic. But I felt it was necessary to do...though to be honest, I didn't feel particularly upset over his death. But Trump is a harder case in every way. He doesn't--yet--have as absolutely evil an action on his shoulders, as 9/11 was. But he is so personally odious, so utterly corrupt in every way...and he is corrupting our country, as well. We are all sinking into hell with him. I find praying for him one of the most difficult things I have ever done. I assume that everyone has good inside them potentially, and I pray that he finds it. That the better angels of his nature--even his--can be open to him. But the temptation to just yield to my hatred is always there, all day, every day...it is counter-productive in every way. I hope it won't consume me. But more and more, I find myself not caring if it does...

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I am doing my best not to feel personal hatred towards Trump... (Original Post) First Speaker Mar 2018 OP
There is nothing wrong with feeling hate for the right reasons JI7 Mar 2018 #1
Recommended. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #2
I'm not even trying any more. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #3
You're a better person than I am MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #4
I'm sorry that you are having a difficult time. No one can live up to AJT Mar 2018 #5
Hatred is such a nasty feeling, I can't say i'm quite there but it's close. Jarqui Mar 2018 #6
"Hate the sin, not the sinner" isn't all there is to it... TreasonousBastard Mar 2018 #7
I AM NOT! BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #8
I admire you, but I am afraid I am too far gone. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #9
NOT ME! I hate his Deplorables worse than I hate him. Didn't SammyWinstonJack Mar 2018 #10
What if trump is Satan? Miigwech Mar 2018 #11
As a secular humanist, i LOATHE the orange creature. slumcamper Mar 2018 #12
Trump is soulless. Do you hate people like that or wonder how they became that way. Blue_true Mar 2018 #13
I am failing miserably. I hate the creature. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #14
There is a lot of hate in this country and the perfect lightning rod for it is Spanky. roamer65 Mar 2018 #15
Meh, just *LET YOURSELF GO*!1 UTUSN Mar 2018 #16
Go ahead. rownesheck Mar 2018 #17
I am incapable of true hate for the most part. ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #18
Happy for you, but this man has been dispicable mountain grammy Mar 2018 #19
My feelings for tRump fluctuate from utter contempt to just outright hate for the man. Grammy23 Mar 2018 #20

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Recommended.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:23 PM
Mar 2018

In my opinion, Trump is a 72 year old bullied child who has never recovered from what his father did to him. Bullies are generally cowards who compensate by a projection of toughness.

And hatred is corrosive to the hater. Better to try to channel the energy generated by the hatred into something else.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
4. You're a better person than I am
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:24 PM
Mar 2018

I feel no compunction not to hate him personally. He has no excuses for being evil. He chose it.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
5. I'm sorry that you are having a difficult time. No one can live up to
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:26 PM
Mar 2018

their faith all of the time.....we are only human after all.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
6. Hatred is such a nasty feeling, I can't say i'm quite there but it's close.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:36 PM
Mar 2018

But I can't stand the man and can't wait until he's out of the Oval office.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. "Hate the sin, not the sinner" isn't all there is to it...
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:37 PM
Mar 2018

sometimes they are inseparable.

Trump is not Stalin, or Pol Pot. Like them, he has little or no moral compass, but he's too stupid and lazy to do the hard work to be a real dictator.

Anything is possible, but I seriously doubt that at his age he is redeemable.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. I admire you, but I am afraid I am too far gone.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:40 PM
Mar 2018

I hate the man with a white hot passion. He is the embodiment of evil.

slumcamper

(1,605 posts)
12. As a secular humanist, i LOATHE the orange creature.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:50 PM
Mar 2018

He and the grotesque cadre of miscreants that have agglomerated around his rotting carcass epitomize the worst of humankind. Even "deplorable" fails to characterize them. I am filled with a most complete and utter disgust that, at times, glances hate; and while I've striven throughout my life to stop short of proclaiming hate for anyone or anything, these people are testing my resolve. Indeed, a few weeks ago it slipped in conversation: I hate the SOB."

There it is.

Hitherto my heart has had no room for or reason to harbor hate, but I fear it has crept in. This is a personal tragedy.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Trump is soulless. Do you hate people like that or wonder how they became that way.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:51 PM
Mar 2018

Instead of hating them, fight their acts and work to change negative outcomes from those acts. I am not a Christian, but most of my family is. There are some Christians that I admire, like my family, who are progressives, and some that leave me wondering where their humanity went to, like rightwing evangelicals.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
15. There is a lot of hate in this country and the perfect lightning rod for it is Spanky.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:15 PM
Mar 2018

All in one person, he is just about everything I hate about this country.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
17. Go ahead.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:18 AM
Mar 2018

Release your anger, your hate! Join the rest of us in the dark side! At last until that bastard ass is imprisoned. Then you can return to the light. Trust me, your God hates trump along with all trump's trash holes too.

ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
18. I am incapable of true hate for the most part.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:35 AM
Mar 2018

I can SAY I “hate” this or that, but the emotion doesn’t match the sentiment I’ve found.

I do feel a deep, deep loathing and repulsion for Trump, the same feeling I get when I read about a heinous crime committed against a child. That same almost nausea in my stomach. The same expression on my face, as if I ate something sour. The same anger and disgust, to the point I am both drawn and repelled by any news that mentions his name.
But it’s not hate, not in the sense I understand hate to be, a soul eating emotion that can consume and destroy.




mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
19. Happy for you, but this man has been dispicable
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:41 AM
Mar 2018

for a long time.. I'll hate the shit out of him for what he did to the Central Park 5 and the racist birther crap and his years of public depravity and racism. And now he's out to be a dictator forcing his fucking stupidity on all Americans. He's disgusting and worthy of all hate.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
20. My feelings for tRump fluctuate from utter contempt to just outright hate for the man.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:58 AM
Mar 2018

I used to remind myself frequently that he is mentally in a different place than normal people. He has other mental health issues driving him to be deceitful, to lie incessantly and to live in such a way that dishonesty and deception are normal for him. He is a sick man to live this way and hurt so many people without so much as a backward glance.

But a part of me thinks he does know (on some level) that what he has done is bad, evil and likely illegal. That explains his quest to find a way to cover his tracks and to not be held accountable for the things he has done or directed to be done. If he REALLY thought he had done nothing wrong he would be sitting back, fat, dumb and happy. Instead we see a lot of frantic activity to try to find a legal way, a loophole, an escape hatch to help him out. He has done so much, however, done things that very likely crimes and his actions are those of a guilty man. So that just underscores for me that he does know the difference between right and wrong and he is not the victim of his mental issues.

I would like to think I could contain my own feelings of loathing and disgust for this despicable man but the feelings sometimes get the best of me. He has brought worry and despair to me personally and to countless others just like me. My future hinges on many things he has done and will continue to do as long as he is allowed to remain in office. My husband’s 401K that had finally recovered nicely from Bush’s folly has taken another hit these past weeks that fortunately is not as bad as before, but still a hit. It irks me no end that one man (and the henchmen he puts around him) can bring so much misery and worry to ordinary people who are at his mercy.

I hope that this investigation with Mueller will pick up speed before tRump can complicate things further. Even at this point there are a number of serious charges waiting on tRump...even if it all stopped today. Naturally, I want to see everyone involved to receive punishment, but mostly I want tRump gone and everyone he brought in with him.
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