The Twit tweets: Amazon is using our Postal System as their Delivery Boy

[demmiblue]

Link to tweet

[Sherman A1]

1. There are lots of reasons to dislike Amazon

but, using the USPS (and paying for the service) is not one of them.

[get the red out]

4. + 1

agree

[Demsrule86]

31. I don't like it when the president of the United States goes after companies he dislikes...it is

wrong...how dare he? Where are all the GOP yappers about free market?

[TheDebbieDee]

45. Agreed! If it wasn't for Amazon and Ebay deliveries

The Post Office would have to lay off folks.

As it is, the PO makes Sunday deliveries for UPS.

[Renew Deal]

2. The postal system is the delivery boy

This is just another distraction.

[Renew Deal]

3. He condemns a successful American company like Amazon, but not Putin and Russia

[ok_cpu]

5. I swear to goodness

he's using Twitter to move the markets against stocks his folks have shorted. He tweets some odd, random crap. And I don't know how much more gains can be juiced from this market.

[Kirk Lover]

6. Isn't the postal system supposed to be a 'delivery boy'. I thought the prezident was not

allowed to go after individual businesses like this. This is bullshit.

[VOX]

7. "Unlike others, they pay little or no taxes," Just like ME, #45, and "that makes me smart."

Make up your mind, you useless fake-tanned blob of quivering protoplasm.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/26/trump-brags-about-not-paying-taxes-that-makes-me-smart.html
CNBC Dan Mangan Mon, 26 Sept 2016
Donald Trump said he's "smart" by not paying income taxes — and argued that if he did, the money would be "squandered."

Trump's jaw-dropping statements came after Hillary Clinton launched a fiery attack on the Republican presidential nominee for breaking a four-decade tradition of White House aspirants releasing their federal income tax returns.

"The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax," Clinton said. Trump quickly retorted: "That makes me smart."

Later, when Clinton told Trump was that "maybe ... you haven't paid any federal income tax for a lot of years," the real estate mogul, who claims to be worth up to $10 billion, said that he was a better steward for his money than the government.

"It would be squandered, too, believe me," Trump said.

[Cha]

16. Thanks for the reminder, VOX..

Dumb stupid POShite for brains.

[VOX]

17. He's a man of constant contradictions.

Just what you'd expect from a clueless psycho like Dump. He needs to GO.

[IronLionZion]

21. He's a very complex genius. The rest of us just wouldn't understand.

[The Polack MSgt]

37. The quote is - Bloated -

But close enough

[teamster633]

8. Is there a single subject that this buffoon knows anything about?

I have mixed feelings about Amazon, but, having been in the shipping industry for almost 40 years, the one thing I can say without reservation is that they are very good for our business sector. As to the comments of the orange anus, the Amazon/USPS partnership is driving the rest of the industry. Those of us who work for competing carriers are having to conform to their arrangements just to keep pace. As usual, the orange anus knows fuck-all. If he wants to go after Bezos because WaPo treats him so badly, he's going to have to do better than this...

[retread]

9. I never, in a million years, would have guessed that in my "retirement" years I would find

myself supporting the FBI and a giant, consume all in its path, corporation. I just hope Spanky doesn't start
tweeting negative shit about Facebook!

[beachbum bob]

10. what a moron, Amazon collects sale taxes and I pay them whenever I buy something

amazon also pays delivery charges to Post Office, fedex, UPS...as for retailers well, Walmart has had a greater impact over the past 30 years in putting manufacturers out of business as well as retailers and grocery stores. sounds like he is trying blackmail Amazon at some level

[NewJeffCT]

34. wasn't that a law passed under Obama

that online retailers were supposed to collect state sales taxes for the states where they do business?

[BumRushDaShow]

41. Court cases & the Commerce Clause require sales taxes be collected if the retailer has a presence

However bills were introduced but nothing has passed yet with respect to collecting taxes if there is NO presence, and a number of states have sued to require payment of state taxes regardless of where the online retailer resides.

So because of this, the SCOTUS plans to look at a case that would allow states to collect those taxes regardless of presence. I expect we will hear the result in the next couple months.

[BeyondGeography]

11. He is just mad at WaPo

[kydo]

12. Oh he is just mad because he didn't think of it first.

The USPS makes money every time they ship anything. Last time I checked that's what it's there for, to send things. What a loser! One day we will be rid of this vile creature.

[appleannie1943]

13. It isn't postage free so what's the big deal?

You'd think he would be glad USPS is making money and Amazon is putting people to work.

[logosoco]

14. I am tired of this all the time.

Lies. And lies that aren't even that hard to research the facts or even just figure it out yourself.

What business school did tRump go to that saying hiring a business and paying them for their service is causing a loss? Is he one of those people who think tax dollars pay for the post office?

[Freethinker65]

15. Bringing up paying taxes? How about showing the people your taxes?

[malaise]

18. And he's using the reconverted old post office building to

violate the emoluments clause.

[Ilsa]

19. USPS isn't delivering for free. They are making money off Amazon,

and that pisses off the idiots who want to privatize mail service and steal postal workers' pensions.

[HipChick]

25. It's not just Amazon, a lot of my packages from other retailiers start from Fedex, and are delivered

by USPS...

[bullwinkle428]

29. Most everything I order online for purchase eventually gets delivered to my

door or mailbox through the USPS, no matter who the initial shipper is.

[Ilsa]

32. Ditto. Happened just this week with fedex; in past with UPS. nt

[DeminPennswoods]

20. Shipping via USPS makes perfect business sense

for both parties. The Post Office makes door-to-door deliveries every day and now they do some Sunday deliveries, too. Why would any business that depends on door-to-door delivery set up its own duplicate service? Using USPS for pick up and deliver just makes way more sense.

It helps USPS, too, because shippers deliver pre-sorted packages to them.

Of course, USPS cannot take any individual package over 75lbs. Those have to go by commercial carrier.

[Ilsa]

22. My Fed-Ex delivery from a retailer ultimately went through

USPS, adding a day. Same with brown UPS.

[DeminPennswoods]

57. FedEx and UPS have both found it easier

to ship their pre-sorted packages to the local post office and have final delivery done by USPS. Almost everything I order online comes this way.

[TheBlackAdder]

23. Actually, it's FedEx & UPS who socialize final segment costs to the USPS while privatizing profits.

.

The USPS has the infrastructure to perform the most expensive part of package delivery--final segment delivery.

It is where they take the package form the regional distribution center and deliver it to the recipient.


While FedEx and UPS run delivery trucks in high-density areas, they rely on the USPS to perform most rural and suburban deliveries. Expedited packaging and other special delivery services are performed with their trucks. THat is why you will often see packages, shipped by FedEx or UPS delivered in your mailbox or by your letter carrier.

This is the most expensive part, and the USPS only makes $0.01 profit per package.

Over the years, these two carriers have lobbied congress to hobble the USPS so they would not be as competitive to their bread and butter services -- overnight and expedited deliveries. However, they want them viable enough to offload the expensive final segment needs. That is, until enough money is placed into the USPS retirement fund, then it will be sold to Bain Capital and raided--leaving taxpayers on the hook to replenish those billions.

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[IronLionZion]

24. So is this a distraction from Stormy or Mueller?

Amazon has been fantastic for the postal service who gets money from shipping their packages.

People also blamed email for stealing business from the postal service. Maybe Trump will ban Twitter for stealing jobs from other communication channels like newspapers.

Don't worry, he'll go back to blaming immigrants and minorities soon enough.

[former9thward]

26. This is exactly the complaint I have read time and time again on this site.

Amazon is using the Post office for final delivery. Why is Amazon being backed up now? Just because Trump attacked them?

[ret5hd]

30. i am a daily reader here, and I haven't seen that complaint.

I've seen other complaints about Amazon, many of which I find valid. But using the Post Office?

Point me to that if you don't mind.

[progressoid]

43. Amazon and many other mega-retailers are able to negotiate lower shipping costs that

the rest of us don't get.

It never "ships for free". Someone has to pay for the difference.

[ret5hd]

44. That isn't really the complaint that the other poster was pointing out.

And complaining about negotiating lower costs isn't exactly valid.

We don't complain about buying "X" for $xxx from a store when the store buys "X" for $yyy
If you buy a thousand of something you are gonna expect a discount.

Heck, if I sell something on eBay and use USPS flat rate shipping, I get a discount if I purchase and print the shipping label online rather than go to the Post Office to purchase the shipping label.

[progressoid]

46. Sure we do.

We complain about Walmart's price negotiating tactics and how it harms small businesses. We complain about the wide range of drug prices which depend on the negotiations of your insurance company (or in some cases, their lack of negotiations).

When Amazon get's lower costs for shipping than smaller businesses, it gives them an unfair business advantage. And someone has to make up the cost of that discount. That would be you and me.

[ret5hd]

47. And this is still not the complaint of the person I originally replied to. And yes...

we do complain of your examples. After a (admittedly, very quick and non-exhaustive) search, I found this ( https://www.vox.com/2017/12/29/16830128/amazon-trump-twitter-postal-service-feud ) from vox.com. It gives a more nuanced view, pointing out that some of the discount comes from insuring proper labelling, boxing, sorting etc.
Kinda the same discount any business gets for pre-sorting their mail (think bulk mail).

It also points out that USPS's "package department" is the arm of the USPS that is actually making money, and the "first class delivery" arm is what is in trouble.

It also points out some of the issues you reference.

[former9thward]

49. If someone will tell me how to find Post Office deficit and Amazon

in old DU threads I would be happy to comply. I don't know how so I can't do it.

[LanternWaste]

48. And I've read "boycotts never work..." on DU

And I've read "boycotts never work, people forget about them quickly..." on DU.

I s'pose our lesson is simply not believe simplistic allegations lacking any objective evidence... especially when they're consistently supporting a counter-progressive narrative.

[lunasun]

27. Isn't that the purpose of the postal service to deliver letters and packages? He along with repukes

want the US postal service to die and deliver no more.
Privatization has been pushed for years and it gets cuts every year with out support

[LisaL]

33. Well, exactly.

In fact seems USPS wants more business, not less.

[rzemanfl]

28. Manipulating the stock market for his pals. n/t

[MineralMan]

35. Well, of course they use the USPS.

It's the only reliable delivery service that goes to every address in the nation. It's been delivering packages longer than all the others combined. We love our Postal Service.

Amazon is PAYING for those deliveries, you know...

[lunasun]

36. Just a delivery boy , just an errand boy ,reminded me of this below & trump is just as insane

"I do not see any methods at all" ...
https://m.

[ananda]

38. 45 is going after Amazon to help his rich cronies.

He just makes things up as he goes, per usual.

[sinkingfeeling]

39. How does using the postal service cause a loss to US?

[Initech]

40. I thought the cons wanted to shut down the USPS?

So why does Orange Douche suddenly care about which company uses the USPS more?

[katmondoo]

42. I like Amazon

There are items that are not carried in my local stores, Amazon is the only place I can go to.

[Blue_true]

51. I agree. Local stores don't have the selection that Amazon has.

Amazon also sells more made in the USA than my local stores. I do go to local stores, for large items and stuff that I know they have, but when I want pure maple sugar, food grade sand, or a cutting board made by craftspeople in Applachia, Amazon in the only logical choice.

[treestar]

50. Don't they have to pay postage?

[RainCaster]

52. Dumbass- Amazon is the biggest customer of the USPS

Dear President Spanky,

It is considered poor form in the business world to upset your customers. It makes them go away and then you lose business. If you really want to offend a customer of yours, you should first see how much business that customer does with you. Then you can decide if it is worth it to offend and lose that customer.

Signed,

One of the four million more who voted for Her.

[Luciferous]

53. Umm, it's their job to deliver packages. What a dumbass!!!

[Chickensoup]

54. Id10T syndrome .

When one is behaving like a mafia boss
And not like the president of the
U.S.A. He is suffering from Id10t syndrome .

[Kirk Lover]

55. Even my RUMPer co-worker had to laugh at that one. nt

[LAS14]

56. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. That doesn't mean we should...

... spend time or energy trying to use the clock for information. I don't know if there's anything to Trump's tweet and I'm not going to give it another thought until a reputable news organization starts reporting.

[JDC]

58. You just know he doesn't know how mailing a letter works

Like others have said, Amazon may have its issues, but using the USPS is a good thing for them.

[dembotoz]

59. perhaps the difference is amazon pays its bills and trump does not

if you do a lot of business with a company and you pay them on time.
That company generally does well.