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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEaster's NBC live show Jesus Christ Superstar. Will Evangelicals freak that this Jesus is black?
Being played by John Legend. NBC 8-10ET
milestogo
(16,829 posts)HAB911
(8,873 posts)not lily white
TlalocW
(15,378 posts)All right. Next really easy question.
TlalocW
Glamrock
(11,794 posts)His skin was liked bronze fired in a furnace (dark brown). And he had hair like wool....
So yeah, they'll freak out. Who actually expects an evangelical to know what's in the Bible?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Glamrock
(11,794 posts)Obviously, there were hordes of blonde, blue eyed men in ancient Israel, right?
Atman
(31,464 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Aristus
(66,308 posts)As I recall, there are no physical descriptions of Jesus in the Bible.
Glamrock
(11,794 posts)Daniel 7
Ezekial 40:3
Aristus
(66,308 posts)Not descriptions of the man by those who knew him.
Conventional wisdom stands, then: no descriptions of Jesus in the Gospels.
Still, that doesn't mitigate my disdain for those who insist Jesus was a blond, blue-eyed white man.
LeftInTX
(25,209 posts)the Jewish faith to give a physical description of Jesus.
Sure we know that Noah lived 900 years and Moses was at the end of his life, so they are depicted as old with beards. David was young, got the women, so presumed to be handsome. About the only one that has a physical appearance in the bible is Samson. The rest are inferred by Christians based on their behavior.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Macho-heroic-Jesus appears to be wearing a terry spa robe for good measure.
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Must be those giant hands of his.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Coventina
(27,093 posts)Having a black Jesus won't add all that much to their ire.
Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)And I love the fact that as an atheist myself, this film is just hugely meaningful to me. I had seen it as a child and listened to it on 8-track repeatedly, but had no love of religion even at a young age (I was a SF buff). But this film ~moves~ me in so many ways. It's the power of a story told in a compelling way and every year when I watch the 70's film version I take something different away from it because of my own changes and growth of knowledge.
I'm excited to see how this live performance plays out.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Im an atheist, too, but I love this album (original cast recording only) on so many levels.
Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)But most fall flat in some way. The original cast nailed it.
The one that really threw me was one that re-interpreted it as a 9/11 tale.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2015/04/25/wrongheaded-jesus-christ-superstar-fiddlehead/cj27kQ4ukuV401f0aBltXL/story.html
Did not care for this interpretation at all.
watrwefitinfor
(1,399 posts)Neely and Anderson reprised their original roles on stage in the '90s. I took my young teenage granddaughters.
They had never seen the movie, so had no idea what to expect. Their reactions - from the opening scene ("Help Me-e-e-e-e" in the completely dark theater) - were similar to mine when I first saw it twenty years earlier on screen. Wow. It was an outstanding stage production. And surprisingly lost little in the transition from the screen.
I'm an athiest, too. And I loved so much about this movie. Incredible performances by so many. Especially Ted Neely and Carl Anderson.
(If Jesus is going to be black in the new production, is Judas going to be white? I can see Legend as Jesus. Who would do Judas justice? Maybe Neil Patrick Harris?)
And such powerful scenes. The choreography at the temple and at Herod's place. Judas' whole scene in the desert and the tanks coming over the dunes. Most of all when everyone - actors, camera men, everone - lined up, got on the bus, and drove off leaving the Jesus hanging there.
I knew when I first saw it in the '70s that most "Christians" would hate it and consider it blasphemous. Some would understand it. But the ones who needed this "message" most would hate the movie and completely ignore anything they might learn from it about Christianity and/or the human condition.
I watched the movie with my granddaughter's children a few years ago when they were about 9-10. I think it's time for us all to see it again.
Wat
mountain grammy
(26,608 posts)this atheist appreciates great theater, and JCS is great theater.
Iggo
(47,546 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,869 posts)Delicious 😋.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)appropriately enough...so the KGOP does have something to celebrate.
underpants
(182,733 posts)Wow John Legend, the first time I ever saw him was when he was the DJ on Ellen's show. I think he was the DJ when her syndicated show started. Just a few months later he had his first big hit.
Vinca
(50,253 posts)Atman
(31,464 posts)superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)He has the best songs, and the whole musical revolves around him.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)in Hamilton at one point is playing Judas.
Alice Cooper is King Herod and Sara Bareilles is Mary Magdalene.
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)FakeNoose
(32,616 posts)I don't know how religious he is, but I suspect it won't matter. Rightwing politics is about to take over and ruin his life.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)HELL YES and the white supremacist crowd will shit a collective brick.
sheshe2
(83,710 posts)That threw a 'fizzy hit' when they did an all black version of Wizard of Oz...using all black actors??? Who cares what those assholes thinks. I will enjoy watch heads explode. Can ya just imagine if they portrayed Jesus as a woman as well..
To cool...I have it on record.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)finally would be able to access and have available all minds, wisdoms and advice, all linked to mutual human and animal survival. This planet is all we have. I think about and hope people are dedicated to saving 'Mother Earth and can...comets and asteroids notwithstanding....
sheshe2
(83,710 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)tRump will never take communion again! All that blood....
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)excited about the happening!!
The music is riveting and powerful.
Legend will be amazing!
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Surely those can't be wrong. On a side note, I did get to see JCS after it had been playing for a couple of months. A girl I was dating (we were in college) got two tickets from her parents as a Christmas gift and we went during Christmas break. It was at some place called Hellfinger (or something like that) Theater. There was a black guy that played Judas, but I have no idea who it was. Jesus was most definitely white, but did have dark hair.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)dlk
(11,540 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,315 posts)dembotoz
(16,797 posts)Iggo
(47,546 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)After seeing Ted Neely play the role both in the film and on-stage, it's hard for me to imagine anyone else in that role. I actually saw his last live performance of it in the Twin Cities a few years ago. He could no longer hit the high notes, so they were fed into the play from a recording and he lip-synced them. Sad.
A lot of evangelicals hated the play from the very beginning. That hatred has died off, pretty much, due to time, but I'm sure it will be revived by a black man playing Jesus.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Seen it on Broadway, then traveling in Tampa, North Charleston twice. Seen the original Jesus 3 times.
Can't wait to see John Legends take. Will be doing a sing a long here at the house. Feel free to stop by to munch on Jelly Beans and sing.
csziggy
(34,135 posts)Ben Daniels ... Pontius Pilate
Alice Cooper ... King Herod
John Legend ... Jesus
Brandon Victor Dixon ... Judas
Sara Bareilles ... Mary Magdalene
Norm Lewis ... Caiaphas
Erik Grönwall ... Simon Zealotes
Abby Corrigan ... Ensemble Soloist
Jason Tam ... Peter
Vince Oddo ... Apostle / Soloist
Jin Ha ... Annas
Syndee Winters ... Ensemble Soloist
Justin Gregory Lopez ... Ensemble Soloist
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6874964/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)There are preview clips and interviews with principals and backstage discussions on internet. Thought Brandon's view of Judas v interesting.
FakeNoose
(32,616 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,286 posts)FakeNoose
(32,616 posts)Nonbelievers won't care one way or the other. But showing Jesus as a black man? On national TV?
The Twitterworld is going to explode.
Personally I'm looking forward this production and I'm psyched for it. I love the music of Andrew Lloyd Webber and John Legend will be really good I'm sure.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)I could be wrong. But the play has been around for so long and is an alternative POV anyway. Judas isnt depicted as a creep and betrayer but someone genuinely worried about the revolution and that superstar status. Jesus is really conflicted. The disciples are easily led twits. And yet theres appeal in making it more modern and being in front of audiences at all.
I really like it. But I like stories and songs and their place in the conversation.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)I'm being transported to the TV just for this show.