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Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:35 PM Jan 2012

Baby rapist is illegal immigrant, already deported once.

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/accused-baby-killer-in-u-s-illegally

"An MDC spokeswoman says Juan Galindo, 33, was sent back to Mexico in July after serving time in jail on drug charges, a spokeswoman for the Bernalillo County Metropolitan Detention Center said."

"Galindo goes by several names, including Oscar Valladez. Police say he raped and brutalized his baby girl Thursday morning, but it took hours before anyone called for help."

"Galindo told investigators he had doubled his usual daily dose of meth Wednesday night when he was looking after the baby."



I have grown very tired of this. EVERY civilized country in Western Europe has an actual functioning immigration process. Whatever you think of the issue, our system is in complete disarray.
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Baby rapist is illegal immigrant, already deported once. (Original Post) Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 OP
Droids won't have to discern ,and thats what orpupilofnature57 Jan 2012 #1
Sorry, I am having trouble decyphering this. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #2
Sorry about the Blab. orpupilofnature57 Jan 2012 #8
No worries. I get the same way sometimes. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #10
How nauseating! Quantess Jan 2012 #3
I doubt they'll allow extradition at this point. nt. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #4
Legalizing drugs would be great also. dkf Jan 2012 #5
On this forum? DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #6
It got a Rec from me2 emilyg Jan 2012 #11
Because only immigrant meth heads rape babies, as we all know. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #7
What does this have to do with anything? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #9
The immigration system has nothing to do with it. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #14
It reminds me of this. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #25
You might have picked the wrong thread to whine about treatment of illegals. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #31
I'm agreeing with the op, if we cant hate us some Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #36
Or France ,not all scumbags are without Clout. orpupilofnature57 Jan 2012 #34
How about sociopathic meth head etherealtruth Jan 2012 #12
Would the child be alive if he had been prevented Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #17
It appears as if you have bought the distraction ...? etherealtruth Jan 2012 #33
Indeed, he was a criminal, his immigrant status is irrelevant Zalatix Jan 2012 #22
Exactly. MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #26
Let's just lock him up with a life sentence. FarPoint Jan 2012 #13
So because he is illegal, that means to smear all illegals treestar Jan 2012 #15
Effectively preventing those deported from returning Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #16
No. Claiming that because this person is illegal, then all people here treestar Jan 2012 #18
Please point to that accusation. NT Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #21
Ok - (points to OP) n/t MedicalAdmin Jan 2012 #27
Can't speak for the OP, but I doubt that was the intention RZM Jan 2012 #29
Can't deport the citizens who commit crimes treestar Jan 2012 #30
Thank you. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Jan 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #24
The fact that this guy is a fucking animal that deserves to rot in prison AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #32
I don't care whether he's legal or illegal!> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #35
Nature take its course? RZM Jan 2012 #37
I couldn't agree more REP Jan 2012 #38
Couldn't agree more . . . more :) RZM Jan 2012 #39
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
1. Droids won't have to discern ,and thats what
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:43 PM
Jan 2012

the govenment wants ,us signing on for anything to save jobs and money.Another group that has userped Great Americans handle ,are those idiots horny to police the border as if thats their main concern.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
8. Sorry about the Blab.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Mon Jan 2, 2012, 05:40 PM - Edit history (1)

i COULDN'T TELL if this was about Rapee or illegal aliens.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
3. How nauseating!
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jan 2012

I don't care what country he is from, he is a vile scumbag! Maybe he can just go to prison in Mexico and stay there for the rest of his life.

Response to Snake Alchemist (Original post)

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. Because only immigrant meth heads rape babies, as we all know.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jan 2012

Europe has a lot of illegal immigrants. Just ask those Italian neo-Fascists, or talk to the German neo-nazis.

Here:


The Interior Minister, Roberto Maroni, a leader of the rabble-rousing Northern League – close allies of Silvio Berlusconi on the government benches – has explained his next step in his assault on the "emergenza di sicurezza", the "security emergency": fingerprinting all Gypsies.

It was the only way, he told a parliamentary committee on Wednesday, for Italy to guarantee "to those who have the right to remain here, the possibility of living in decent conditions." For this purpose the Roma – those with Italian nationality and those without, EU citizens and those from outside the Community – will all have their fingerprints taken. And the rule will even apply to Gypsy children – for reasons that to many of Mr Maroni's supporters must have sounded obvious: "to avoid phenomena," as he put it, "such as begging". The new measures, he said, were indispensable "in order to expel those who do not have the right to stay in Italy".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/plight-of-the-roma-echoes-of-mussolini-855436.html

See? Everywhere you go, there is always a great group of foreigners to hate! Isn't it great?

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
9. What does this have to do with anything?
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jan 2012

Do you not want a functioning immigration system? Or do you not want any immigration restrictions?

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
14. The immigration system has nothing to do with it.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jan 2012

Here's an awful truth: This guy apparently has a pattern of criminal behavior. Criminals don't obey laws. No matter how restrictive our immigration laws are, no matter how vigorously they are enforced, criminals will still do what they want without regard to the laws.

Headlining that this piece of detritus is an illegal immigrant is meant to inflame xenophobes. It's a modern version of the old style headlines highlighting the criminal's skin color or ethnicity.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
12. How about sociopathic meth head
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jan 2012

... was also an illegal immigrant. His heinous crime has nothing to do with his immigration status ... it has to do with the likelihood that he is a sociopath with a drug problem ... his immigration status is a distraction (that will be picked up by the knuckle draggers as an example of those evil illegal immigrants)

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
13. Let's just lock him up with a life sentence.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:12 PM
Jan 2012

If New Mexico has a death penalty ...well that works fine for me. This guy lost humanitarian support.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. So because he is illegal, that means to smear all illegals
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jan 2012

as likely to do the same.

That is sickening.

Crime is crime, no matter what the immigration or citizenship status of the criminal.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. No. Claiming that because this person is illegal, then all people here
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jan 2012

illegally are likely to engage in similar acts is a smear.

It is irrelevant. US citizens commit crimes, too.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
29. Can't speak for the OP, but I doubt that was the intention
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jan 2012

Explain to me how that's a smear?

Immigration status is relevant when talking about crime. The reasoning is simple and has already been pointed out in this thread. Stricter enforcement and tougher border security means and a reduction of the overall number of people coming here, including those who commit crimes.

Let's say:

X is the overall number of undocumented immigrants coming into the country yearly
Y is the percentage of them likely to engage in criminal behavior

XY = Z, which is the number of undocumented immigrants who enter the country and are likely to commit crimes.

Reduce X and you reduce Z.

If you don't feel that crime is a reason for stricter enforcement of immigration laws and a more secure border, then make that case.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. Can't deport the citizens who commit crimes
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 04:48 PM
Jan 2012

So crime fighting does not include deporting illegal aliens - that's just deporting them because they are here illegally, not because they are more likely than anyone else to commit crimes.

Response to treestar (Reply #15)

Response to Snake Alchemist (Original post)

Response to backscatter712 (Reply #19)

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
32. The fact that this guy is a fucking animal that deserves to rot in prison
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 05:23 PM
Jan 2012

the rest of his life has little to do with his immigration status.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
37. Nature take its course?
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jan 2012

For an inmate like this in prison, 'nature,' means him being beaten, extorted, raped, and maybe even killed because of the crime he committed.

Right in your profile it says you were banned for talking about your own experience with sexual assault. Now you are wishing that on somebody else? Because it's not uncommon for sexual predators in prison to take advantage of child molesters like this guy.

This is a heinous crime committed by a person who shouldn't have even been here since he had already been deported once. But I don't support violating human rights just because his crime was terrible.

REP

(21,691 posts)
38. I couldn't agree more
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 07:04 PM
Jan 2012

While I have no pity for those who commit crimes like these, and hope his stay in prison is uncomfortable, I have no wish for any inmate to be raped in prison.

Prison rape doesn't just happen to inmates who "deserve it" for unspeakable crimes; it happens to any inmate who is smaller, weaker and unable to fight off an attack. Is rape really a fitting punishment for theft? Drug possession? Or those falsely convicted on bad evidence (and not always of rape; bad convictions happen for just about every crime)? Whether one believes prisons are for punishment and penance or for rehabilitation, rape has no part in either scheme.

I'm always surprised at those salivating at the thought of someone accused of a horrible rape (or any rape; they're all horrible) being raped in prison. While I understand the gut reaction to see bloody vengeance, who really wants more rape and more rapists? I do not, and I'd think that survivors of sexual assault and rape wouldn't, either. The prisons do a pretty terrible job of rehabilitation and counseling for the crimes inmates are incarcerated for; they do next to nothing for those who turn to rape in prison or their victims. And many of them will be released.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
39. Couldn't agree more . . . more :)
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jan 2012

Last edited Mon Jan 2, 2012, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Like you said, rape victims are often the weaker inmates. Other risk factors include being gay, being unaffiliated with criminal/gang culture, and being a member of a less-represented and/or less-organized racial group. There's probably many more as well.

Rape isn't the only thing this guy has to worry about either. He will almost certainly be physically attacked and could very well be killed because of his crime.

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