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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:55 PM Apr 2018

DU Logicians, Need Help Naming a Fallacy

This came up the other day. I know well enough that it is a fallacy, put I'm having difficulty nailing down the exact name of the fallacy.

Here goes:

George likes cats.
Cats are animals.
Therefore, George must like all animals.

It seems like generalization, but examples I've been looking at don't quite match up.

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DU Logicians, Need Help Naming a Fallacy (Original Post) ProudLib72 Apr 2018 OP
It's a syllogism DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #1
Yes, I wrote it as such ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #7
Sounds like association fallacy oberliner Apr 2018 #2
I think that's just a straight-up logical fallacy. Aristus Apr 2018 #3
It's backwards leftieNanner Apr 2018 #4
that would be logically true triron Apr 2018 #5
Fallacy of composition. unblock Apr 2018 #6
I thought fallacy of composition was ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #8
Whenever you take a property of an element of a set and attribute it to the entire set unblock Apr 2018 #12
I've been trying to learn more about informal fallacies. That would be my answer too. Dunno though. yonder Apr 2018 #16
You need the illustrated book of bad arguments Xipe Totec Apr 2018 #9
That looks like a REALLY good book ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #17
I liked it so much I gave it as a gift to my college age niece. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2018 #20
I just ordered a copy! ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #21
The only conclusion one can draw is Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2018 #10
It is a fallacy of degree. It goes from non universal statements in the Exotica Apr 2018 #11
Illicit major n/t Shrek Apr 2018 #13
That looks very much like my syllogism. Thanks! ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #18
It is a non sequitur in the form janx Apr 2018 #14
You can have a lot of fun with associative logic Major Nikon Apr 2018 #15
Oh no! I feel a thread about tRump using associative logic coming on ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #19
A camel is always a mammal... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #22
Fake News! ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #23
Got me there... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #24

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
7. Yes, I wrote it as such
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:08 PM
Apr 2018

If reversed, then it is true. The way it is written here is not true. So the question is, what makes it untrue this way?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. Sounds like association fallacy
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:56 PM
Apr 2018

Premise A is a B
Premise A is also a C
Conclusion Therefore, all Bs are Cs

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
3. I think that's just a straight-up logical fallacy.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:57 PM
Apr 2018

You used a linear, logical progression to come to the conclusion, but the conclusion is fallacious.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. I thought fallacy of composition was
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:16 PM
Apr 2018

Hydrogen is not wet
Oxygen is not wet
Therefore H2O must not be wet

Fallacy of composition is one that seems similar. Now you see my quandary? I never studied logical fallacies in a formal setting, and they all seem so appealing to me!

unblock

(52,126 posts)
12. Whenever you take a property of an element of a set and attribute it to the entire set
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:26 PM
Apr 2018

That's the fallacy of composition.

Oxygen is a gas at room temperature,
Oxygen is a member of the set of elements in h2o,
Therefore h2o is a gas at room temperature.

George likes cats
Cats are members of the set of all animals
George like all animals

Same structure.

yonder

(9,657 posts)
16. I've been trying to learn more about informal fallacies. That would be my answer too. Dunno though.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:56 PM
Apr 2018

Fallacy of composition:

If one person in a group stands to get a better view, then all people who stand would get a better view. False

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. That looks like a REALLY good book
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:56 PM
Apr 2018

I teach my composition students a few each semester, but we never go very deep. I wonder if they would like an illustrated book with pigs and rabbits committing heinous logical fallacies. I wish we offered a critical thinking class.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. I just ordered a copy!
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:28 PM
Apr 2018

I have a 15 year old niece who might find it useful (once I'm finished with it )

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
11. It is a fallacy of degree. It goes from non universal statements in the
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:25 PM
Apr 2018

first two clauses, to a universal statement in the third.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
18. That looks very much like my syllogism. Thanks!
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:01 PM
Apr 2018
1. All dogs are mammals
2. No cats are dogs
3. Therefore, no cats are mammals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illicit_major


janx

(24,128 posts)
14. It is a non sequitur in the form
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 07:29 PM
Apr 2018

of an illogical
syllogism. Illogical
because the logic and categories are backwards.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
19. Oh no! I feel a thread about tRump using associative logic coming on
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:07 PM
Apr 2018

Not starting it here and now, though.

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