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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:05 PM Apr 2018

My insurance just went up by 25%.

Wow. My insurance always goes up in May. Biggest jump I've seen in the like 10 years I've had this insurance. It's insane how terrible healthcare insurance is in this country. As though I wasn't struggling enough as it was.

/sigh

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My insurance just went up by 25%. (Original Post) OliverQ Apr 2018 OP
Medicare For All NOW! n/t leftstreet Apr 2018 #1
I'm for it. But, Medicare premiums, supplements and drugs go up every year too. Hoyt Apr 2018 #2
Single Payer NonProfit National Health Service NOW leftstreet Apr 2018 #9
Somehow, I don't believe 20% of our economyl is going to straighten itself out Hoyt Apr 2018 #12
I like the idea of allowing younger people to buy into Medicare. Blue_true Apr 2018 #18
Good luck. I actually wrote a paper for a state legislate encouraging Medicaid for all in early 80s. Hoyt Apr 2018 #23
Verbiage means so much... NCTraveler Apr 2018 #20
He'll, "Medicaid" for all would be an upgrade for many. helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #29
Change the insurance company! quartz007 Apr 2018 #3
Carefirst BCBS. OliverQ Apr 2018 #5
if you can't change until November why is your policy changing prices in April? CreekDog Apr 2018 #8
The yearly increase is always in May, but I think open enrollment isn't until later in the year. OliverQ Apr 2018 #10
So, do they give an idea of the projected rate changes when people sign up? Blue_true Apr 2018 #19
If you are on the marketplace they can re-contract you at any time now trixie2 Apr 2018 #24
You actually can change early trixie2 Apr 2018 #25
My wife has BCBS-IL and she is very happy with it. quartz007 Apr 2018 #15
Thank your lucky stars trixie2 Apr 2018 #26
Your wife needs to talk with Medicare hedda_foil May 2018 #39
Repubs blame the cost rise on Obama Turbineguy Apr 2018 #4
So Very True!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Apr 2018 #6
why did it go up in April? CreekDog Apr 2018 #7
It's an individual policy. Never got it on the Obamacare exchange. OliverQ Apr 2018 #11
well that sucks CreekDog Apr 2018 #14
BCBS on a group policy is better than any exchanges! quartz007 Apr 2018 #16
he said it was an individual policy not a group policy CreekDog May 2018 #40
Individual policy is gift to the insurance outfit to quartz007 May 2018 #48
You said you were almost 80, yet you said that you paid for your flu shot CreekDog May 2018 #43
Not me, my wife, who is not yet 65..nt quartz007 May 2018 #49
you said you get a "price break" because of your insurance --that doesn't sound free CreekDog May 2018 #50
Once you are on Medicare, you can opt out towards quartz007 May 2018 #51
you didn't answer the question CreekDog May 2018 #52
That's the point trixie2 Apr 2018 #27
You can thank the American Criminal Enterprise Healthcare System democratisphere Apr 2018 #13
I thought ACA had fixed that problem? quartz007 Apr 2018 #17
The OP doesn't have ACA Healthcare. democratisphere Apr 2018 #21
Under Trump, and with a majority. Blue_true Apr 2018 #22
We pay the highest drug costs in the world by far. spooky3 Apr 2018 #28
Very true! Whenever we are visiting Mexico, quartz007 May 2018 #36
We need Medicare For All mvd Apr 2018 #30
Our deductibles doubled on a work place group plan ...one way or another lunasun May 2018 #31
Are you forgetting something about Doc Martin? former9thward May 2018 #38
I've haven' heard of many Brits wishing they had our health system even though theirs is not perfect lunasun May 2018 #44
He often tells patients to get out of his office and stop bothering him with nonsense. former9thward May 2018 #45
And in Salem's Lot, the doctor was a vampire hunter! LanternWaste May 2018 #47
that's that beautiful insurance trump promised spanone May 2018 #32
Single-payer/comprehensive Medicare for All area51 May 2018 #33
The ACA duforsure May 2018 #34
Prepare really well for a nasty recession/depression coming quartz007 May 2018 #37
It's not an ACA policy CreekDog May 2018 #41
also, people getting subsidies already are shielded from those increases CreekDog May 2018 #42
Ummmmmm..... A HERETIC I AM May 2018 #46
Everything old is new again. I'm so thankful to be a geezer on Medicare. Vinca May 2018 #35

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
9. Single Payer NonProfit National Health Service NOW
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:19 PM
Apr 2018

obviously

But, "Medicare For All" is becoming a term that gets everyone's attention as a national health service

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. Somehow, I don't believe 20% of our economyl is going to straighten itself out
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:37 PM
Apr 2018

any time soon. Agree, there is no better time to start than now, but Medicare, Medicaid, and even some commercial insurers have already squeezed out a lot of excess in the system. Healthcare is just expensive, but there are better ways to pay and control it. But try convincing enough people. Even California, Vermont, and Colorado ran from having to tell people how much their taxes would have to increase. I know, we are already paying for it. But it’s been a hard sell.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. I like the idea of allowing younger people to buy into Medicare.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:03 PM
Apr 2018

A good policy for a single person can cost $900 per month. Even if Medicare charged $500 per month, many people would buy in. I believe the buyin helps everyone, healthy younger people get affordable healthcare coverage, Medicare gets more money into it's system. Personally, I would buy in just for the blanket of having coverage, and I would not need more than an annual physical.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. Good luck. I actually wrote a paper for a state legislate encouraging Medicaid for all in early 80s.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:23 PM
Apr 2018

Got nowhere, other than some halfassed thank yous. I worked for the state Medicaid agency at the time. Point is, I’ve been for this for over 30 years. But right now, it’s a pipe dream as California, Vermont, and Colorado found out.

I also think $500 is a bit optimistic unless the government subsidizes the premium, which of course is paid by someone (hopefully those better off, but that isn’t going to happen with this Congress).

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
20. Verbiage means so much...
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:11 PM
Apr 2018

And I really like the increase of use in Medicare for All. I think we are hitting a point where the arguments against it are losing favor. When it’s attacked more and more people are thinking about how flawed their BCBS plan is. Medicare is a large program that’s been up and going for a long time.

Might not be exactly what I want but the term is solid and clearly in the right direction.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
5. Carefirst BCBS.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:15 PM
Apr 2018

Can't change until November I think, but not many other options here. Kaiser and maybe Cigna are the only other 2 options.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
8. if you can't change until November why is your policy changing prices in April?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:18 PM
Apr 2018

I'm not following this.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
10. The yearly increase is always in May, but I think open enrollment isn't until later in the year.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:22 PM
Apr 2018

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. So, do they give an idea of the projected rate changes when people sign up?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:07 PM
Apr 2018

The two insurers that you mentioned are decent. I think Cigna get you into a lot of HMOs, but they do a good job of selecting them, so the care you get is good. Cigna really push preventative medicine.

trixie2

(905 posts)
24. If you are on the marketplace they can re-contract you at any time now
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:26 PM
Apr 2018

I was re-contracted 3 times last year. Every time they re-contracted me they wiped out my co-pay that I had already paid. It was back to zero each time. They are blowing up the Affordable Care Act from the inside out.

trixie2

(905 posts)
25. You actually can change early
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:30 PM
Apr 2018

I had to last year under Humana. I just notified them and the market place that I could no longer afford their premiums, after they upped them 3 times over 5 months. At that point you can pick something else. You do have to give 2 weeks notice to the market place if you are on the Affordable Care Act.

I am so glad we can now talk about this. I have been screaming into my pillow that the ACA was being imploded since the last election.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
15. My wife has BCBS-IL and she is very happy with it.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:57 PM
Apr 2018

Because her deductible is $400, and out of pocket max is $2800, and it pays 85% of bills until out of max is reached.

But her policy is through a large employer. So may be they can negotiate better deals. She is retired from her job, but not yet medicare age. She dreads going on medicare with high deductible and pays only 80% of hospital bills..

trixie2

(905 posts)
26. Thank your lucky stars
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:32 PM
Apr 2018

They are now talking about taxing people who get good health insurance through their employers.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
39. Your wife needs to talk with Medicare
Tue May 1, 2018, 07:18 PM
May 2018

They pay 80% of a miniscule agreed amount (set by Medicare for providers. You pay 20% of the same miniscule amount. That's basic Medicare. You can buy a supplement policy to cover all of part of your share. Every company that offers these has to provide a set benefit level that's exactly the same. This is where you can get screwed because people just buy from AARP/United Health Care, which can literally cost you double than the lowest cost supplier for EXACTLY the same thing.

Finally, there's Medicare Advantage, which is basically privatized. Cheap but if you're hospitalized you have a bigger than expected cost.

Turbineguy

(37,285 posts)
4. Repubs blame the cost rise on Obama
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:10 PM
Apr 2018

They cannot make the connection that republican politicians who want to destroy the program are related to cost increases.

The GOP contends that if there were more stupid people voting, they wouldn't have to get help from the Russians or cheat.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
7. why did it go up in April?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:17 PM
Apr 2018

it must not be an exchange/healthcare marketplace (Obamacare) policy.

what kind of policy is it? is it an individual policy?

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
11. It's an individual policy. Never got it on the Obamacare exchange.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:22 PM
Apr 2018

I've had it for a long time and I guess got grandfathered in.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
14. well that sucks
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:43 PM
Apr 2018


there aren't the protections for individual plans as on the health care exchanges.
 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
16. BCBS on a group policy is better than any exchanges!
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:00 PM
Apr 2018

Deductible is $400 and out of pocket max is $2800.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
40. he said it was an individual policy not a group policy
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:07 PM
May 2018

it may have been a group policy but if under COBRA, it can convert to an individual policy.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
48. Individual policy is gift to the insurance outfit to
Thu May 3, 2018, 12:01 AM
May 2018

rip you off. What this country really needs is a nationwide group policy available to individuals.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
43. You said you were almost 80, yet you said that you paid for your flu shot
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:17 PM
May 2018

Medicare covers flu shots 100%

Now you were also bad mouthing flu shots, saying you got them but you still got the flu so you weren't going to get them anymore.

Something is a little odd with this one.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
49. Not me, my wife, who is not yet 65..nt
Thu May 3, 2018, 12:04 AM
May 2018

Medicare covers my flu shots and PSA every year. But currently I am trying out a Medicare Advantage plan. So theoretically off Medicare.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
50. you said you get a "price break" because of your insurance --that doesn't sound free
Thu May 3, 2018, 12:25 AM
May 2018

people who get things for free don't usually say they got a "price break".

and you don't have Medicare?

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
51. Once you are on Medicare, you can opt out towards
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:22 PM
May 2018

what they call Medicare Advantage plans. These are offered by private companies such as Humana and AARP. Overall it is better service and pays more than 80% Medicare pays. So, theoretically, I am not on Medicare this year. I can rejoin Medicare during the switching period. For example if I end up in hospital, I will pay $700 copay and out of pocket maximum. With Medicare, I will be paying 20% of hospital bills, which could easily be 10 times bigger amount than $700.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
52. you didn't answer the question
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:05 PM
May 2018

you either got the shot for free and called it a "price break"

or you didn't get it for free, but Medicare plans, including Medicare Advantage plans, provide flu shots for free.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
13. You can thank the American Criminal Enterprise Healthcare System
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:42 PM
Apr 2018

for your 25% increase in insurance costs. It is outrageous!

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
21. The OP doesn't have ACA Healthcare.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:11 PM
Apr 2018

The cost of Healthcare in America is outrageous regardless of who is or is not paying for it. Some entity ultimately gets the outrageously high bill for whatever services are provided. The ACA does not address the insane cost of Healthcare in the USA.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. Under Trump, and with a majority.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:12 PM
Apr 2018

Republicans are slowly undoing the ACA. This is what some people voting stupidly get us, and I don't mean only people on the right.

spooky3

(34,401 posts)
28. We pay the highest drug costs in the world by far.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:37 PM
Apr 2018

Other developed countries have varying systems to control these. And many of our other costs are way out of line with those in the rest of the world. Thanks, lobbyists and Republicans.

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
36. Very true! Whenever we are visiting Mexico,
Tue May 1, 2018, 06:23 PM
May 2018

we load up on medications, at half price. Same brand names!

mvd

(65,155 posts)
30. We need Medicare For All
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:47 PM
Apr 2018

Even if we have to get to it in steps, now is the time to get things rolling.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
31. Our deductibles doubled on a work place group plan ...one way or another
Tue May 1, 2018, 12:09 AM
May 2018

Everyone always tells me I can't believe you are in to that show...doesn't seem like you, but I liked this British comedy Doc Martin on Netflix . I agree it's not something I would be matched with but I love the doc!
People who are hermits, dead beats , laborers and travelers every episode someone like that has a serious medical episode.
Though there is drama over the illness NOT once is the issue of how this is going to break the bank or how will they pay now, or forget it I can't afford to be treated come up for these folks not so well off in life.
Maybe how will I get to town or I don't think I can get off work , who will look after the farm etc. comes up but NEVER is paying for a doc visit or hospital stay mentioned as a drama

This is an AMERICAN problem and yes other places too but we are a developed country of wealth

Oh yeah I forgot concentrated wealth ....

former9thward

(31,925 posts)
38. Are you forgetting something about Doc Martin?
Tue May 1, 2018, 07:02 PM
May 2018

He doesn't take BS from his patients. Ask an American doctor how long they would last if they did that....

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
44. I've haven' heard of many Brits wishing they had our health system even though theirs is not perfect
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:38 PM
May 2018

Martin often tells pts there are other options in nearby towns if they have had it with him. I have changed doctors in U.S. insur networks i do not like, but I am sure the doctors i left behind are still employed

The National Health Service spends less than half of what Americans spend per person on health care, and yet life expectancy is higher in Britain.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/07/591128836/u-k-hospitals-are-overburdened-but-the-british-love-their-universal-health-care

former9thward

(31,925 posts)
45. He often tells patients to get out of his office and stop bothering him with nonsense.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:00 AM
May 2018

I guess you may not have seen those episodes (most). American doctors would love that freedom.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
47. And in Salem's Lot, the doctor was a vampire hunter!
Wed May 2, 2018, 03:39 PM
May 2018

And in Salem's Lot, the doctor was a vampire hunter! American doctors would love the freedom to treat vampires!

Or kill them.

Fiction is fun!

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
34. The ACA
Tue May 1, 2018, 04:31 AM
May 2018

From Trump and republicans changes is expected to increase 90% within 2-3 years. Drug prices also typically go up 300-400% under gop controls. Oil normally increases under republican control as its already increased from $40-42 up to now $68-70, which is dramatically higher . Their economy will crumble like it did under W , then we'll see recession, or worse, depression . All while the wealthy still get their huge tax refunds yearly when many of our deductions are eliminated and we get nothing.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
42. also, people getting subsidies already are shielded from those increases
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:09 PM
May 2018

the subsidies will rise to cover the increase.

and profits are limited.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
46. Ummmmmm.....
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:16 AM
May 2018
"All while the wealthy still get their huge tax refunds yearly"


That's not really how it works.

Let me rephrase.....

That's not at all how it bloody well works!

If you are in an income category that is largely impacted by the decrease in the top marginal rate, the last thing you are concerned about is a tax "refund". That's not how such benefits are realized.
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