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madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:18 PM May 2018

An interesting point about the Dr. Bornstein "raid."

One of the guests on MSNBC brought up that there is a serious issue if the three individuals sent by Trump saw medical charts of other patients while searching for Trump's files.

This incident sounds like something out of a movie about
wise guys from Brooklyn.

It seems that everything Trump knows, he learned from the mob.

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unblock

(52,126 posts)
1. it also seems that donnie is a poor student.
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:19 PM
May 2018

just because he used mob tactics doesn't mean he's any good at it.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
2. If so, the Dr would be in trouble
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

His office is responsible to safe guard the privacy of the patients.

If he left a chart open or a screen open on a computer and someone else sees the patients information, the Dr is in violation of privacy protection

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Even if Dr. Bornstein didn't leave records laying around or on the computer
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:45 PM
May 2018

There's the question of whether the folks who went through his office and took his records were very careful not to look at any records except the ones they were there to steal. did Dr. Bornstein have all of Trump's medical records - both those under Trump's name and all his aliases - in one separate folder or series of folders? Or were the records distributed throughout Bornstein's files depending on the name Trump was using for any particular visit? Were the thieves careful to grab the records of (for instance) "David Dennison" and not look at the file label for "Dorothy Denton" which were right behind the Dennison records?

HIPAA is pretty precise about who is authorized to view anyone's medical records. If a goon looking for Donald Trump's records accessed the records of other patients, even inadvertently, there are hefty fines for such unauthorized access. Whether the goon, his boss, or the doctor is ultimately responsible for those fines is a matter for the prosecutor's office.

But why did Bornstein not report this break in for 14 months? Curiouser and curiouser.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
3. It seems to me that Bornstein is liable
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:28 PM
May 2018

for a lot of stuff here, starting with not reporting a breach of HIPPA, particularly if other patient's records were viewed. Why in hell did he not call the cops? I mean isn't that what rape victims are supposed to do?

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
4. He had to have communicated with Trump at the time
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:34 PM
May 2018

Or he would have had to report that men just stole the records of the president.

Trump had to be involved,big time.

MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
5. Sounds like this "raid" came from the President
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:35 PM
May 2018
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-doc-says-trump-bodyguard-lawyer-raided-his-office-took-medical-files/ar-AAwBfK9

In February 2017, a top White House aide who was Trump's longtime personal bodyguard, along with the top lawyer at the Trump Organization and a third man, showed up at the office of Trump's New York doctor without notice and took all the president's medical records.

The incident, which Dr. Harold Bornstein described as a "raid," took place two days after Bornstein told a newspaper that he had prescribed a hair growth medicine for the president for years.

In an exclusive interview in his Park Avenue office, Bornstein told NBC News that he felt "raped, frightened and sad" when Keith Schiller and another "large man" came to his office to collect the president's records on the morning of Feb. 3, 2017. At the time, Schiller, who had long worked as Trump's bodyguard, was serving as director of Oval Office operations at the White House. snip

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
6. WTF
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:38 PM
May 2018

is he doing telling a newspaper about what he was prescribing Trump? Sounds like that was a HIPAA violation right there too.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
12. The issue of Ronny Jackson. He said he was glad to see him go.
Tue May 1, 2018, 04:26 PM
May 2018

It's possible that the network initiated the interview, wanting his comment on what happened to Ronny -- and then they got this.

malaise

(268,716 posts)
8. I found it interesting that they told him to remove his picture with the Con
Tue May 1, 2018, 02:43 PM
May 2018

from his own wall - mob rule best describes the kakistocracy.
Think about it - the president of the United States sent his goons to remove his medical records from his doctor of almost four decades.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
11. That's what I was wondering about! Thanks. I don't see how they could have
Tue May 1, 2018, 04:24 PM
May 2018

rummaged through the doctor's files without violating the privacy of other patients.

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