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Hats off to Mineral Man. His "Paul Ryan nominates Osteen" post is trending at Snopes (Original Post) grantcart May 2018 OP
Mahalo, grant.. Cha May 2018 #1
Bravo! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #2
Way to famous yourself, Mineral Man!!! Snopes remains one of the most trusted fact-check sites ever raven mad May 2018 #3
Lol Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #4
WAIT, HAHA, Mineral Man was the source of that rumor? joshcryer May 2018 #5
It was high class satire malaise May 2018 #75
Excellent! calimary May 2018 #6
nice Demovictory9 May 2018 #7
And hats off to you, grantcart. How the hell did you find that? C Moon May 2018 #8
I went the one of the most learned sites on the internet grantcart May 2018 #10
Congratulations to Mineral Man! DFW May 2018 #9
Good satire goes viral. PatrickforO May 2018 #11
lol n/t orleans May 2018 #12
Nice. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #13
Very cool!!! StarryNite May 2018 #14
You Win the Internet Today Roy Rolling May 2018 #15
I've conversed in posts with Someone Famous! byronius May 2018 #16
Well played indeed! (N/t) FreepFryer May 2018 #17
Congrats indeed dembotoz May 2018 #18
LOL Gothmog May 2018 #19
Ha! Dr Hobbitstein May 2018 #20
Kick grantcart May 2018 #21
Nice one, Mineral Man! n/t fleur-de-lisa May 2018 #22
Oh, my... MineralMan May 2018 #23
Oh, yes, you are. Enjoy the kudos. DFW May 2018 #42
Thanks. I was very surprised to see my little MineralMan May 2018 #43
And with today's somewhat more laid-back pace DFW May 2018 #44
Fame is mostly illusory and fleeting. MineralMan May 2018 #45
And so you should! n/t DFW May 2018 #46
Please remember not fooled May 2018 #56
It's time to go pro malaise May 2018 #71
. NCTraveler May 2018 #24
Mineral Man sure killed any thoughts of that nomination malaise May 2018 #25
As I commented on that post ... Yonnie3 May 2018 #26
Love it!!!! get the red out May 2018 #27
Bravo, MM! More! Bis! Encore!!! fierywoman May 2018 #28
Actually saw MM's post picked up on . . . peggysue2 May 2018 #29
Awesome! Kick Rec Bookmark! Hekate May 2018 #30
That's not something to be proud of. nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #31
Why not, pray tell? MineralMan May 2018 #33
If you read the snopes material it explains that MM clearly grantcart May 2018 #38
....... ailsagirl May 2018 #82
Haha, right below the Osteen post is a link to "Did Hillary Clinton get killed in a monster octoberlib May 2018 #32
Not any more... Louis1895 May 2018 #34
!!!!!!!!!! BumRushDaShow May 2018 #37
Also found this bit about a republican white nationalist keithbvadu2 May 2018 #50
The sad part is that Ryan supporters were hoping that it was true! nature-lover May 2018 #35
Well done MineralMan :) mwooldri May 2018 #36
Oh great lillypaddle May 2018 #39
Satire, and clearly marked so in the thread. No attempt to seriously mislead anybody. grantcart May 2018 #40
Oh, Pshaw and Fiddle Faddle! MineralMan May 2018 #41
"Oh great - let's applaud fake news" left-of-center2012 May 2018 #48
You don't understand the difference between clearly marked satire and an attempt to grantcart May 2018 #52
None of that occurred in the posts I refer to left-of-center2012 May 2018 #60
you didn't refer to any particular posts but responded to this one about a particular OP grantcart May 2018 #64
Thank you for playing left-of-center2012 May 2018 #72
bookmarking n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #74
Really?!?! Roland99 May 2018 #69
Hard to believe anyone thought it was real left-of-center2012 May 2018 #47
That is really funny, and also interesting ismnotwasm May 2018 #49
OUTSTANDING! orangecrush May 2018 #51
Fake News! JDC May 2018 #53
Sincere Humor!!!!! grantcart May 2018 #54
42512 views! Renew Deal May 2018 #55
Wow! Good catch. MineralMan May 2018 #57
K&R red dog 1 May 2018 #58
OK, everyone. This has ruined me. Now, I'm afraid MineralMan May 2018 #59
LOL SunSeeker May 2018 #61
So to those we want to attract, we're a satirical site? rickford66 May 2018 #62
Oh not to worry... Phentex May 2018 #66
I knew that was going to be a DU classic when I read it. Ligyron May 2018 #63
hahaha what a riot! Fake news! Takket May 2018 #65
This is on twitter too.............. Takket May 2018 #67
Keep it up, Mineral Man, and Vladimir Putin will be Ilsa May 2018 #68
So cool! treestar May 2018 #70
That's the best thing I've heard all year. bitterross May 2018 #73
A-mazing!! Anon-C May 2018 #76
Bravo, Mineral Man... lapucelle May 2018 #77
totally awesome OhNo-Really May 2018 #78
Good job mm. Denis 11 May 2018 #79
Awesome! lunamagica May 2018 #80
KUDOS, MineralMan!!! ailsagirl May 2018 #81
Hats off, indeed!!! BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #83
Osteen will be the new Chaplain of Space Force. sarcasmo May 2018 #84
Hats off to Mineral Man for this one. Gore1FL May 2018 #85

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
3. Way to famous yourself, Mineral Man!!! Snopes remains one of the most trusted fact-check sites ever
Wed May 2, 2018, 01:59 AM
May 2018

and it truly makes me proud that one of our very own (and cherished) DU'ers is featured!!

DFW

(54,269 posts)
9. Congratulations to Mineral Man!
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:40 AM
May 2018

That his post gained enough traction to be worthy of a Snopes fact check is a high honor indeed!

That MM's joke was plausible enough to warrant checking out in the first place is a serious indictment of how far we have descended.

Roy Rolling

(6,906 posts)
15. You Win the Internet Today
Wed May 2, 2018, 03:48 AM
May 2018

I thought the post was great, even including an explanation of the satire thingy.

I guess some readers run out of brain cells before reading the whole thing and rushing to to inaccurately post it on Twitter.

byronius

(7,389 posts)
16. I've conversed in posts with Someone Famous!
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:08 AM
May 2018

That makes me Almost Famous.

This whole place is famous to me. Still nothing like it. Anywhere. Anytime. Period.

Center of the Cyclone.

DFW

(54,269 posts)
42. Oh, yes, you are. Enjoy the kudos.
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:34 PM
May 2018

I once got an anti-Gingrich/Bush letter published in its entirety in the Financial Times of London. I had fun with that, so you certainly deserve to have fun with this, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
43. Thanks. I was very surprised to see my little
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:39 PM
May 2018

effort at satire find its way to viral success. It's the first time one of my satirical posts has been noticed beyond DU's pages.

Cool beans!

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
56. Please remember
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:23 PM
May 2018

the little people.

Well done!

What put it over the top for me is the accompanying rationale as stated by Paul Ryan.

Says a lot about the pathetic state of this country that such an idea sounds credible.





Yonnie3

(17,419 posts)
26. As I commented on that post ...
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:20 AM
May 2018

Excellent!

Now I've got to add: It sure is a sad commentary on the gullibility of some folks. It also points to the fact that 'Rump actually does things like this, why not Ryan? I used up everyone of my "you can't make up stuff like that" comments over a year ago.

peggysue2

(10,819 posts)
29. Actually saw MM's post picked up on . . .
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:50 AM
May 2018

one of the twitter feeds I read and thought . . . Uh oh. I don't have a twitter account so I couldn't respond. But it's an object lesson in how quickly posts get picked up, swarm and spread out, particularly if they sound like they might be true or correspond to our perceptions of what's going on.

I think most of us here realized this was satire and if we didn't MM cleared the question up in another post. But on twitter? These things are plucked as is and retweeted like wildfire.

That being said,



to Mineral Man for proving once again the power of words.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
33. Why not, pray tell?
Wed May 2, 2018, 01:30 PM
May 2018

I don't want to be proud of something I shouldn't be proud of. All those folks congratulating me, and all. So, please explain.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
38. If you read the snopes material it explains that MM clearly
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:19 PM
May 2018

Left a signal that it was satire and that the thread had numerous responders responded to the humor.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
32. Haha, right below the Osteen post is a link to "Did Hillary Clinton get killed in a monster
Wed May 2, 2018, 01:08 PM
May 2018

truck mishap?" People are nuts.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
34. Not any more...
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:03 PM
May 2018

The Hillary post was displaced by a Michele Bachman post:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-michele-bachmann-say-kanye-is-right/

Did Michele Bachmann Say ‘Kanye is Right’ and Slavery was ‘a Choice’?

“Kanye is right. Slavery was a choice. Whites chose not to be slaves, and that’s why we weren’t slaves. Whites didn’t want to be gassed during the Holocaust. That’s why we weren’t gassed. Apparently Jews felt differently.

If you don’t want to be a slave, don’t be a slave. It’s not that hard.

Michele Bachmann
Fox and Friends May 1, 2018

keithbvadu2

(36,640 posts)
50. Also found this bit about a republican white nationalist
Wed May 2, 2018, 03:29 PM
May 2018

Also found this bit about a republican white nationalist

(the folks our conservatives were so proud that had a permit to march in Charlottesville)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/patrick-little-neo-nazi-california/

I propose a government that makes counter-semitism central to all aims of the state. A government:

1) Of a People, for that people, free from jews

2) That cannot revoke the right to bear arms, such that this people can remain free from jews

3) that forbids all immigration except of biological kin, where no person of jewish origin may live, vacation, or traverse

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
36. Well done MineralMan :)
Wed May 2, 2018, 02:16 PM
May 2018

I used to recall that Democratic Underground did bill itself as being a place for satire, as well as Democratic Party activism, news sharing, and discussion in general.

One gets to learn what is satire, what is actual news, and what is discussion over time here. Having Snopes rate one of MineralMan's satirical posts says a lot about our society today - that their radar for truth and fiction seems to be malfunctioning.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
48. "Oh great - let's applaud fake news"
Wed May 2, 2018, 03:06 PM
May 2018

I've seen a number of 'fake news' posts on DU recently, I assume as humor.
Yet we decry and point out 'fake news' by those we oppose.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
52. You don't understand the difference between clearly marked satire and an attempt to
Wed May 2, 2018, 03:55 PM
May 2018

Purposely deceive? SAD

Here is a clue; When someone doesn't have any link and puts in a cartoon similie, probably satire.

If that didn't reveal it then the Republicans openly advocating increasing higher taxes for poor people should have gotten you over the line.

And if that didn't give you enough of a clue then a dozen people responding saying "great satire" was your cliff note explanation.

At no time did the author try to actually deceive anyone.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
64. you didn't refer to any particular posts but responded to this one about a particular OP
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:31 PM
May 2018

And all of the obvious elements necessary to see that it was obviously satire were there.


Here is a clue; When someone doesn't have any link and puts in a cartoon similie, probably satire.


There were no links. OP had



If that didn't reveal it then the Republicans openly advocating increasing higher taxes for poor people should have gotten you over the line.



"Joel, my good friend, suggests that the road to a more prosperious (sic) America will come through even higher taxes on low-income citizens, who will benefit in the end"


You really thought that any thinking person would read this and think it was real. If the absurd exaggeration on tax policy and the poor wasn't enough the spelling should have confirmed it.

No one is applauding "fake news". Satire is one of the oldest forms of political discourse and criticism including many of our common nursery rhymes (humpty dumpty) and goes all the way back to Aristophanes.

We aren't giving it up because you can't tell the difference between obvious satire and propogation of a false news report.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
57. Wow! Good catch.
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:34 PM
May 2018

I hadn't gone back and looked at the original post. I assume most of those came from clicks on the link in the Twitter post and its retweets. Also from Snopes. I don't remember ever seeing that many views of any DU post before.

I hope some of them sign up on DU and join in the conversation here. At least those who have progressive viewpoints.

What's interesting is that this particular satire post got picked up and went viral. I'm still trying to figure out why. I've written many such posts here, but most of them have only gotten attention from DUers. I've never seen one escape into the wild like this one did. Dumb luck, I expect it was.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
59. OK, everyone. This has ruined me. Now, I'm afraid
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:54 PM
May 2018

to post any more satirical stuff. It probably won't live up to that Ryan/Osteen one. Suddenly, I have writer's block.

However, a few days rest and a few gin and tonics, and I'll be back in the game again, I'm sure.

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
66. Oh not to worry...
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

according to some experts here, DU is is just a teeny tiny site on the internet that nobody reads or has ever heard of (even though it's older than Facebook or twitter).

Ligyron

(7,615 posts)
63. I knew that was going to be a DU classic when I read it.
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:11 PM
May 2018

But I had no idea how famous MM would become worldwide.

The sad but somewhat amusing part is how some people just don't get satire.

Takket

(21,526 posts)
67. This is on twitter too..............
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:41 PM
May 2018

if you search twitter for "ryan osteen" you get a bunch of tweets.

https://twitter.com/search?q=ryan%20osteen&src=typd

looks like it started on April 28th with this tweet, linking to DU.........




this tweet was retweeted 2334 times, hence how this spread!

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
68. Keep it up, Mineral Man, and Vladimir Putin will be
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:47 PM
May 2018

Looking to hire you for one of his disinformation programs!

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