Judge Ellis was just joshing

[bigtree]

...he's prolly gonna rule against Manafort.




twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/992432789235564545

[fleur-de-lisa]

1. K&R for exposure.

[Gothmog]

2. Thank you for posting this-many judges are harder on the side that they favor

[Borchkins]

3. That's been my experience in court.

Of course, some Judges are just a-holes to everyone. Hope Judge Ellis isn't one of those.

[bigtree]

5. I kind think he bore down a bit too hard dissing Mueller's case

...might be hard to rule in Manafort's favor without some controversy over these statements. That was my first thought when I heard him.

If he really had an axe to grind, he'd be better off muting the Brietbart-speak and just ruling with a narrow opinion.

[SayItLoud]

18. It's NOW a

tRUMP spox talking point that will never go away.

[bigtree]

19. it's a dirt-dumb one

...pro-trump, anti-trump opinions are already locked in.

It won't mean a thing when he rules against Manafort.

[California_Republic]

31. Fox News is running with it.

[bigtree]

33. these days

...FOX is like the enquirer at the checkstand.

Watch their heads explode when/if their Reagan-appointed justice rules in Mueller's favor.

[Wellstone ruled]

4. Appears this Judge is making darn sure

he has the facts. Remember,this is a all new territory for our country since the Kangaroo Trials of the 1950's.

We might well see a Treason Charge emerge. And the State of Virginia has several cases coming after Mueller finishes with Manafort in Federal Court.

[Stallion]

6. It Sometimes Can Also Help the Judge Frame His Written Opinion

[pnwmom]

7. The wisdom of his being tried in two courts is once again apparent.

And if this thing gets tossed out before a jury is impaneled, he can also be tried in the NY state court.

[barbtries]

8. does anyone know

when the ruling will be issued?

based on the comments i read i figured he may be near senile and was probably a full blown trump cultist, and the case was either lost or headed for an appeals court.

[sarah FAILIN]

9. I fear we listen to our own press too much.

After reading this link, it seems like Manafort found a friend in Ellis.
https://www.courthousenews.com/judge-denies-mueller-request-for-protective-order/

[bigtree]

11. he's more a friend of the government than Manafort

...although he rejected the request, he also said he was open to allowing Mueller a more 'tailored' protective order.

[orangecrush]

16. Not good.

[aeromanKC]

10. Judge wants to see redacted information before making his decision.

Does the Judge have Clearance to see redacted information?

[California_Republic]

32. Needs it for Trumps legal tesm

[barbtries]

12. i don't think so.

i think he's a 77-year-old republican who may very well rule for manafort.

Link to tweet

appointed by Reagan. He is black apparently like Thomas and Carson.

i mean i hope i'm wrong. i hope we find out soon.

[bigtree]

13. we'll see

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[jberryhill]

27. When did Ellis turn black?

He used to be white.





Did he recently become black?

Damn. Those KKK types worried about shifting demographics are gonna really freak out when they find out that white judges are spontaneously turning black.

[barbtries]

28. let me see if i can find it

i googled him and the image i saw was a black man.

https://www.google.com/search?q=U.S.+District+Judge+T.S.+Ellis+III&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjEpdTLy-3aAhWO0VMKHSYuAxIQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=589

there's a link but i did see the white guy this time too. so hell i don't know! no way can there be 2 judges in VA with the exact same name, it's not that common of a name.

[jberryhill]

29. One way to figure it out

Is to click through to look at the page where the image comes from. You will then find out that Ellis presided in the trial of congressman William Jefferson.

[barbtries]

30. i wish it was easier than this, but

what i am going to assume is that the black guy jumping up may be someone tried by Ellis in connection with a blackwater case? i was surprised that this apparent trumpster was a black man to be honest, but there is Carson and there is Kanye etc.

[Honeycombe8]

14. He wasn't posing questions, that I read. He was giving his opinion of

the prosecutors. Not even regarding their case. He was reading the minds of hte prosecutors and voicing Trump's concerns.

He may need to be removed from the case.

[bucolic_frolic]

15. Defendants can never complain their ideas were ignored by the legal system

they were aired for all the world to see

[RandomAccess]

17. I hope this isn't just whistling past the graveyard

I was severely disappointed to hear about the rough time they had.

This sounds like not just a plausible argument but a GOOD argument. I just hope it's true.

[OldHippieChick]

20. I'm going to jump in here w/out full information

but I heard this morning on CNN that the defense could have agreed to consolidate the cases in D.C. and they chose to sever and have a portion decided in Virginia as they anticipated a more favorable ruling from this judge, so I do not believe he grilled the prosecutors because he is on their side. Would appreciate anyone having more details and I will research as well.

[spanone]

21. I was listening to cnn in my car and they actually said this judge was known for this....

no link

little memory

😎

[bigtree]

22. there's a consensus forming

...that he'll rule against Manafort.

Hope it's right.

[EffieBlack]

23. Nobody ever got rich betting on what a judge is going to do based upon questions in oral argument

The odds in Las Vegas blackjack are better.

[bigtree]

24. I think we'd all like to square the judge's Trumplike rant

...with whatever verdict he comes out with.

It seems that ruling in Manafort's favor, at this point, would be tainted by his open speculation against the motives of prosecutors. That's worth discussing.

[EffieBlack]

25. Definitely worth discussing

And I agree that he sounded like he's going to rule in favor of Manafort. But there's a lot of room between the cup and the lip.

[jberryhill]

34. The full context is more illuminating

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210584266

[CabalPowered]

35. Thanks

[Bleacher Creature]

26. Yep. And Trump thinks he has a champion, which may lessen the urge to fire Mueller or Rosenstein.

It all sounds good to me.