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fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:07 PM May 2018

Lawrence O'Donnell on Ghouliani marrying his cousin then getting annulment.

Lawrence O'Donnell✔ @Lawrence 3:34 PM - May 4, 2018

When you listen to Giuliani explain what Trump knew and when, listen through the filter of his 1st marriage: Giuliani married his cousin for 14 years then got an annulment from the Catholic Church by claiming he didn’t know she was his cousin.



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Lawrence O'Donnell on Ghouliani marrying his cousin then getting annulment. (Original Post) fleur-de-lisa May 2018 OP
Lol, how could he it was a secret lol grantcart May 2018 #1
I know of someone who in the 1970's who got an annulment of a marriage that had produced five rzemanfl May 2018 #2
This is such a softball that even I will try to get involved... erronis May 2018 #4
I'm assuming the annulment cost $10k. MrsCoffee May 2018 #5
The children were way more expensive. Edited my post. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #18
I think what the poster above is saying the divorce cost $10,000. Literally, to have Thekaspervote May 2018 #7
Damned to purgatory! pangaia May 2018 #10
There's your argument against an in utero embryo or fetus having a soul. Nitram May 2018 #16
Dunno about purgatory. He wanted to remarry in the church. That second marriage didn't last long. rzemanfl May 2018 #19
I think the poster meant Mariana May 2018 #8
My first read was Wednesdays May 2018 #14
$1.6mm enid602 May 2018 #25
Exactly. Not my best writing. Post has been edited. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #17
Not my best writing. Post has been edited. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #20
My wife received and annulment with 4 children and the diocese did not ask for a penny. TexasProgresive May 2018 #13
He found trump more attractive: George II May 2018 #3
I'm fresh out of bleach. Luckily your post had a caption, so I wasn't tempted to click. FailureToCommunicate May 2018 #9
Need some bleach? Here's some of mine you can use. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #12
Thanks! Most kind of you. I'd actually used up the last of mine the other night after FailureToCommunicate May 2018 #27
What I find most curious about this video is that RUMP sexually assaulted Rudy..he just went all Kirk Lover May 2018 #29
Remember when his wife justgamma May 2018 #6
Yeah, she all but threw him out because he was sneaking the woman who would become.... George II May 2018 #11
The worst parti is how it effected the events of 911. Scruffy1 May 2018 #15
Even worse than that - he ignored emergency service people complaining karynnj May 2018 #22
He didn't notice that their were people on BOTH of their lists as relatives karynnj May 2018 #21
1st wife was a 2nd cousin. Meh. Shrike47 May 2018 #23
He's Catholic?! Xipe Totec May 2018 #24
Oh BURN! Bout time rudy gets some Cha May 2018 #26
Don't know about you, but I'm hearing banjos... Blue Owl May 2018 #28

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
2. I know of someone who in the 1970's who got an annulment of a marriage that had produced five
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:11 PM
May 2018

Last edited Fri May 4, 2018, 07:10 PM - Edit history (1)

children. A canon lawyer in the Vatican charged ten thousand dollars for it.

erronis

(15,217 posts)
4. This is such a softball that even I will try to get involved...
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:03 PM
May 2018

The Catholic Church gave your someone $10,000 to produce five children?

I know they are really into swelling their ranks, but $10,000 doesn't pay for the first 1-2 months of a newborn's expenses.

Thekaspervote

(32,750 posts)
7. I think what the poster above is saying the divorce cost $10,000. Literally, to have
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:07 PM
May 2018

The blessing of the Catholic Church and not be damned to purgatory you had to pay

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. Damned to purgatory!
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:20 PM
May 2018

Perhaps there is a mostly lost truth in this, as the Catholic church seems to have lost everything.

"Blessed is he who has a soul and blessed he who has none.. But woe unto him who has it in embryo."

G I Gurdjieff,

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
16. There's your argument against an in utero embryo or fetus having a soul.
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:09 PM
May 2018

If they do, then if they die before birth they will be crawling around in that embryonic or fetal corporeal form. Now that's gross!

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
19. Dunno about purgatory. He wanted to remarry in the church. That second marriage didn't last long.
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:15 PM
May 2018

Dunno about sacraments either, I am a third generation heathen.

enid602

(8,607 posts)
25. $1.6mm
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:36 PM
May 2018

That would be a bargain given that Two Scoops appears to have paid $1,600,000 to have just one aborted.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
13. My wife received and annulment with 4 children and the diocese did not ask for a penny.
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

The process does not make children illegitimate. That is a quasi-legal term. The Catholic Church has a specific definition of what makes a marriage a Sacrament. This is different from what makes one legal. I don't think it happens, but if a marriage that includes children was nullified by the state- then one could argue the children were born out of wedlock- considering that is become a norm, who cares?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
27. Thanks! Most kind of you. I'd actually used up the last of mine the other night after
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:15 PM
May 2018

some already forgotten awful image.

It's hard to keep up.

Gonna have to start getting bleach again... by the 4 gallon packs...at Costco!

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
29. What I find most curious about this video is that RUMP sexually assaulted Rudy..he just went all
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

in and didn't even ask ....even in parody RUMP's true colors come out.

justgamma

(3,665 posts)
6. Remember when his wife
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:06 PM
May 2018

wouldn't let him move his girlfriend into the Mayor's mansion? He does have his problems.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Yeah, she all but threw him out because he was sneaking the woman who would become....
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:27 PM
May 2018

....his third wife into Gracie Mansion. Donna Hanover also found him screwing a different woman (not the third wife) in a basement apartment set up in City Hall.

He then announced at a PRESS CONFERENCE that he was divorcing Donna Hanover, never bothered to tell her in advance.

His son Andrew hasn't spoken to him in decades, not sure about his daughter.

Scruffy1

(3,254 posts)
15. The worst parti is how it effected the events of 911.
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:03 PM
May 2018

He insisted on having the emergency management center at the WTC ecause it close to his mistress.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
22. Even worse than that - he ignored emergency service people complaining
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:21 PM
May 2018

that the walkie talkies of the police and fire departments were incompatible. (Yes, the later one was supposedly a sweetheart deal - even though they KNEW they then could not communicate. )

This led to the death of firemen, who were still going up in the towers after the police ordered that everyone had to get out as the building would fail.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
21. He didn't notice that their were people on BOTH of their lists as relatives
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:19 PM
May 2018

to invite to the wedding? Even if his parents both came from large families, I would imagine he would know who all his first cousins were - even if he never met them.

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