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Avenatti just ripped Giuliani a new one on Twitter (Original Post) RandySF May 2018 OP
Touchet'. But there can be an explanation. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #1
That's exactly what they DON'T want to say EffieBlack May 2018 #2
You make a good point. Looks like they may be screwed on that. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #6
And THAT makes it a campaign contribution... Moostache May 2018 #3
Oh, well. Guess they're screwed! Honeycombe8 May 2018 #7
Mueller isn't going through all of this trouble to get Trump and his 2-bit fixer on an FEC violation EffieBlack May 2018 #11
sure hope so msdogi May 2018 #18
THIS. Kirk Lover May 2018 #21
Meow meow..here kitty kitty....mueller to t rump...eom asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #28
Ask John Edwards grantcart May 2018 #25
I still feel that he would have made a great President. I wonder what he is doing now? Oppaloopa May 2018 #31
Sorry, he had an affair while his wife went through terminal painful cancer. grantcart May 2018 #32
Disappointing Rorey May 2018 #33
Me too grantcart May 2018 #34
I agree. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #37
He was. grantcart May 2018 #38
I think he was cleared rather than found guilty on one. spooky3 May 2018 #39
The jury couldn't agree about whether Edwards knew spooky3 May 2018 #40
Thanks to all 3 responders, clarifying what happened in the John Edwards case. nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #42
SCORCH! Cha May 2018 #4
Yes in Fencing terms... DownFromTheMountain May 2018 #5
I think I'm in love!! Sophiegirl May 2018 #8
I told hubby I wanted an Avenatti...eom asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #29
How quickly Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #35
He told me he would see what he could do!!! asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #41
The addition of Ghouliani to Trump's legal team.... SergeStorms May 2018 #9
I can't see it. phylny May 2018 #10
Here: dalton99a May 2018 #13
Thanks! :) n/t phylny May 2018 #14
If only there were some other way a wealthy powerful person could handle being threatened like that. tanyev May 2018 #12
REAM! dchill May 2018 #15
We are not stupid Capperdan May 2018 #16
They're not fooling anyone, including trump's own circle and his followers. But they're too.... George II May 2018 #17
There's another reason they continue to support Anus Face... Pluvious May 2018 #20
This is an excellent cartoon LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #24
My son has a co-worker..trumphumper..who said she didn't care..when she sees the asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #30
Thing is, though... BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #19
To protect the family?? Really?? Marie Marie May 2018 #22
Rudy Also Claimed DallasNE May 2018 #23
Did anyone see MFM008 May 2018 #26
There's a simple explanation. IggleDuer May 2018 #27
No contest. Glimmer of Hope May 2018 #36

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
1. Touchet'. But there can be an explanation.
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:38 AM
May 2018

It only became risky that she'd talk, because he was a Presidential candidate? Doesn't wash, really. But that's what they could say.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
2. That's exactly what they DON'T want to say
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:59 AM
May 2018

If the payment has any relationship to his candidacy, it's an illegal campaign contribution if it wasn't paid back and a violation of FEC reporting laws if it was paid back but not reported.

That's why they're using the bogus "he was trying to protect his family" claim.

Of course, he didn't seem too worried about his family when he was bragging about grabbing women by their ladyparts and he didn't feel the need to protect his family by paying off any the women who said he'd assaulted them.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. You make a good point. Looks like they may be screwed on that.
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:08 AM
May 2018

Which is good, because we KNOW it was to keep her quiet for the election and his Presidency.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. And THAT makes it a campaign contribution...
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:59 AM
May 2018

No matter how the shitgibbon spins this, he is guilty of illegal contributions to his campaign, but more importantly of a series of lies that he is simply too stupid to remember all of them to stay our of jail...Fuck you little Donnie

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. Oh, well. Guess they're screwed!
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:11 AM
May 2018

The bad thing about the illegal contribution charge is that many people don't view that as a very important law, thinking that they all do questionable things with those campaign contributions.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
11. Mueller isn't going through all of this trouble to get Trump and his 2-bit fixer on an FEC violation
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:10 AM
May 2018

Last edited Sat May 5, 2018, 01:21 PM - Edit history (1)

I suspect he's dangling that to keep them occupied like a kitten chasing a laser light while he compiles a solid case on some pretty serious federal felonies.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
25. Ask John Edwards
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018

If it is a relatively pedestrian mistake no one cares.

If it us an intentional effort to make a contribution and conceal it AND it might have had an impact on the election they take it very seriously.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
33. Disappointing
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:42 PM
May 2018

I was all on board for him. I was pretty angry when I found out what a scumbag he really is.

I'm hoping when the undeniable truth comes out about 45, his followers will take it the way that I took the truth about Edwards. But it's a lot easier to live in denial, I suppose.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. I agree.
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:40 PM
May 2018

Not sure why charges weren't pressed against Edwards. There was a difference there. The gf was on the payroll, and had been. That's how he met her.

So Cohen/Trump could technically have violated the law, but people won't care. It depends on how it was done, and why. Depends on where the money came from. This mob launders money like other people drink water.

spooky3

(34,428 posts)
40. The jury couldn't agree about whether Edwards knew
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:20 PM
May 2018

Of the arrangements with Bunny Mellon. Intent is important in this type of case.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
9. The addition of Ghouliani to Trump's legal team....
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:46 AM
May 2018

was seen - on FOX, at least - as a brilliant legal move. "America's Mayor" was now on the case. The Trumptards could rest easy now, Rudy was on the job!

Trump deserves Ghouliani, and vice-versa.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
13. Here:
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:09 AM
May 2018

“The payment was made to resolve a personal and false allegation in order to protect the president’s family,” Giuliani said in a statement released Friday. “It would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.” Really? Let's test this most recent claim...
10:51 PM - 4 May 2018

For over 9 yrs after the end of the affair - 2007, 08, 09, 10, 11 (In Touch), 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 (Jan-Sept) - Mr. Trump had a family. And yet no payment was ever made to "protect them." Then, two weeks before the election, the payment was suddenly made. #WeAreNotStupid #basta
10:51 PM - 4 May 2018

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
12. If only there were some other way a wealthy powerful person could handle being threatened like that.
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:24 AM
May 2018

You know, somewhere they could report the threats and 'false allegations' so the person demanding money would be investigated and charged with a crime rather than paying them off for absolutely no reason at all. If only.

Capperdan

(492 posts)
16. We are not stupid
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:24 AM
May 2018

I love that tag line. Just because their base is, they actually think the rest of us are.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. They're not fooling anyone, including trump's own circle and his followers. But they're too....
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:28 AM
May 2018

....biased to actually admit that they know the real reason.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
24. This is an excellent cartoon
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:14 PM
May 2018

It does seem to be what it all boils down to for them.
Either they just don't care they are being screwed, or they just ignore that part of it. It seems that watching their more liberal neighbors look ashen faced and sick about things is the main reward for sticking with Trump.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
30. My son has a co-worker..trumphumper..who said she didn't care..when she sees the
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:18 PM
May 2018

flag she has to take a picture..it's the flag...the flag...OMG

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
22. To protect the family?? Really??
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:34 PM
May 2018

Well it must be Ivanka that he cared about because it certainly wasn't Melania. If he cared, he wouldn't have cheated on her dozens of times. Give me a break!

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
23. Rudy Also Claimed
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:41 PM
May 2018

That he misspoke because of a difference between his understanding and Trump's knowledge. How can that be? The most logical is that Trump misinformed Rudy. Too late for floating trial balloons. That leaves Trump lying to his own attorney then sending him out with a false narrative to dump on the American people.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
26. Did anyone see
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:23 PM
May 2018

His takedown of Steve Kornacki a couple days ago
About dancing around calling maggot a liar.
It was great. He spelled out what a liar is and why we should call him one.

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