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Seth Abramson: The STEELE dossier says (1) COHEN was running TRUMP-Russia coordination (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl May 2018 OP
Big news. This is research that should put them all away. The Wielding Truth May 2018 #1
Yes and I "heard" that Cohen stepped in after Manafort was out....he picked up where Kirk Lover May 2018 #2
Remember, Cohen was EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT of Trump Organization RockRaven May 2018 #3
And his position with RNC. n/t OneGrassRoot May 2018 #19
and he was #2 in charge of finances @ the RNC too Botany May 2018 #23
If true, that should tie this nasty little bundle of stink up for good, I think. nt yonder May 2018 #4
Dumb people should really think twice before deciding to lead a life smirkymonkey May 2018 #5
If they can prove it bucolic_frolic May 2018 #6
Probably lots of stool pigeons are now lining up to save their asses - Page, Gates, and.... George II May 2018 #8
The link to Cohen going to Prague has now been proven. HUGE big deal. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #28
I believe you bucolic_frolic May 2018 #30
6 more months... Volaris May 2018 #47
Ruh Roh... tanyev May 2018 #7
A couple of things. 1 - a person can have more than one passport, so the one he waved.... George II May 2018 #9
Oh It's All Going To Come Out Me. May 2018 #10
Whoa! Big f'n deal. IluvPitties May 2018 #11
A link to the source of this document would be very good to show... JunkYardDogg May 2018 #12
The link on posted tweets can be clicked on to go to the source. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #26
Thanks Dixie grrrrrril JunkYardDogg May 2018 #42
Is this related?: Kingofalldems May 2018 #13
yep, sure is; you can bank on it. triron May 2018 #21
Gosh, why do liberals always assume the worst about these allegations? byronius May 2018 #14
nice avatar n/t garybeck May 2018 #51
And you as well. byronius May 2018 #53
I hope SO MUCH for this. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #15
I like this news! BlueJac May 2018 #16
The Con and the rest of the Kakistocracy have been scared shitlesss malaise May 2018 #17
My guess is that the Steele dossier is dead on accurate. Nitram May 2018 #18
I think Cohen took it over from Manafort. triron May 2018 #20
Is This What True Blue American May 2018 #22
Nunes could have been panicked by any one of the crimes we know of. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #24
Not seen Nunes True Blue American May 2018 #25
I really like the way these guys play hide and go seek. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #31
Now that you mention it True Blue American May 2018 #33
Don't forget that worm, Chaffetz Mr. Ected May 2018 #36
Those names and more have been identified as linked in some way. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #37
McConnell True Blue American May 2018 #55
No wonder Trump is calling the investigation a witch hunt. That is his ONLY defense. Doodley May 2018 #27
If Cohen was the Russia connection, why did Mueller have the SDNY make the search? dem4decades May 2018 #29
Mueller has authority over USA Attorneys if needs be. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #32
Schniederman is AG of the state of New York. SDNY is a federal district headed by a US Attorney. tableturner May 2018 #39
thank you...I do get them mixed up sometimes. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #41
I believe it was Rod Rosenstein's call FakeNoose May 2018 #46
Yep, Schnneiderman, several,already getting their ducks in order True Blue American May 2018 #34
Conspiring, duforsure May 2018 #35
+1000 triron May 2018 #40
k for visibility riversedge May 2018 #38
Yes, paying the hackers is a HUGE deal... Collusion? Obviously. liberalla May 2018 #43
Wow. Looks like Mueller has hit a bullseye. The direct link to Trump. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #44
They have his 📞 True Blue American May 2018 #54
If this is true, Cohen had nearly a year to clean up his records before Mueller raided him. Calista241 May 2018 #45
Not necessarily DonaldsRump May 2018 #48
I am sure the 16 cell phones they found in a drawer will reveal something. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #60
I don't understand something. Eyeball_Kid May 2018 #49
I haven't a clue. unless... dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #50
"He doesn't have a Prague stamp on his passport" GusBob May 2018 #52
Ok, you've got my attention here. Mike Niendorff May 2018 #56
I bet Manafort wanted to be Chief of Staff, and that was why Ilsa May 2018 #57
Lay low in Bulgaria? Botany May 2018 #58
kick for visibility triron May 2018 #59
kick again triron May 2018 #61
kick again triron May 2018 #62
+1000 triron May 2018 #63
"And if anybody asks about the money, tell them we're doing a lot of non-disclosure agreements!" struggle4progress May 2018 #64
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
2. Yes and I "heard" that Cohen stepped in after Manafort was out....he picked up where
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:46 PM
May 2018

Pauly left offffffffff.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
3. Remember, Cohen was EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT of Trump Organization
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:12 PM
May 2018

Not some random coffee boy, or even acting as Trump's attorney. Trump Org had a general counsel, and it wasn't Cohen. Cohen was an executive on par with Junior and Ivanka.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. Dumb people should really think twice before deciding to lead a life
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:20 PM
May 2018

of crime. He is so screwed. However I won't be happy until his boss goes down.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Probably lots of stool pigeons are now lining up to save their asses - Page, Gates, and....
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:47 PM
May 2018

....maybe even Manafort.

Can't wait for Mueller to give the order to the FBI, "SWARM, SWARM, SWARM!"

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
28. The link to Cohen going to Prague has now been proven. HUGE big deal.
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:40 PM
May 2018

We now know for certain that Cohen was the bag man for Russian money.
And working for RNC to defraud the election
AND a director in the Trump Organization.

The links to each of those is blinking neon red.

We haven't even gotten to the kids yet. Ivanka's activities have been under teh microscope for some time now.
THAT's the one I am very interested in also.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
30. I believe you
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:52 PM
May 2018

Now, Federal prosecutors must prove it in a court of law, if they are not fired by the perp organization, and if screams of "Witch Hunt!" don't start a civil war. These people believe government is the enemy, and they are trying to stay in power.

Sorry if preaching, surely you know all this.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
47. 6 more months...
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:07 PM
May 2018

But it will trickle out a little bit at a time, and every one will add weight to the camels back.

By the time we get to Election Day, the nation will be screaming bloody murder for his impeachment, and the dems will take both houses.

That's my bet.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. A couple of things. 1 - a person can have more than one passport, so the one he waved....
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:51 PM
May 2018

...didn't necessarily have to be the one he used to go to Prague.

2. Cohen had better avoid windows in high floors AND he'd better hire a food taster.

byronius

(7,393 posts)
14. Gosh, why do liberals always assume the worst about these allegations?
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:36 PM
May 2018

Because they ring like goddamned bells, that's why.

Christopher Steele is a better American than 39% of Americans.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
15. I hope SO MUCH for this.
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:37 PM
May 2018

For this document to be proven true, for corroborating evidence, and for the panic racing through the ranks to get in line for a plea deal.

I'm sure RM will be able to pick and choose who and what is on offer, depending on how useful it is.

malaise

(268,924 posts)
17. The Con and the rest of the Kakistocracy have been scared shitlesss
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:40 PM
May 2018

since that Cohen raid.
Crunch time is coming - lock them all up!

triron

(21,995 posts)
20. I think Cohen took it over from Manafort.
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:56 PM
May 2018

That's why that judge gave Mueller's prosecutors so much static maybe.
He knows what is coming down but is a Trump supporter.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
22. Is This What
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:15 PM
May 2018

Sent Nunes running to the WH at midnight? Because do not forget Nunes was on the campaign,too?

Is this why he is so desperately still trying to shut down the investigation? And trying to change the subject to John Kerry.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. Nunes could have been panicked by any one of the crimes we know of.
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:28 PM
May 2018

He was frantically playing whack a mole for some time.
Been real quiet for some time now, hasn't he?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
31. I really like the way these guys play hide and go seek.
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:04 PM
May 2018

They seem to be thinking..."Well if I stay off national tv, and be real quiet, Mueller won't find me"
or
"If I resign, or even promise not to run for re-election, maybe....etc."

They are gonna find out that "out of sight, out of mind" is not working.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
33. Now that you mention it
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:20 PM
May 2018

Wonder how many of those who are retiring have dirty fingers?

Ryan, Gowdy,Isaa,on and on.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
36. Don't forget that worm, Chaffetz
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:55 PM
May 2018

He bolted almost immediately when the first fissures in their poorly-crafted cover-up began to show.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
55. McConnell
Sun May 6, 2018, 04:49 AM
May 2018

It has been proven he accepted Russian money. Ryan? He is conveniently leaving to spend time with his family. You know,the ones ready to leave for College?

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
29. If Cohen was the Russia connection, why did Mueller have the SDNY make the search?
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:49 PM
May 2018

This all seems to good to be true, but if there was evidence of a Cohen/Russia connection why didn't the Special Counsel's office do it?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. Mueller has authority over USA Attorneys if needs be.
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:18 PM
May 2018

Mueller is working as an extension of the Dept. of Justice ( which is why Sessions had to recuse himself).

SDNY -Schniederman- has been doing a lot of work at the state level on this case.
Plus there are state charges for some of the things that these guys have been up to.

tableturner

(1,680 posts)
39. Schniederman is AG of the state of New York. SDNY is a federal district headed by a US Attorney.
Sat May 5, 2018, 07:13 PM
May 2018

People keep getting that mixed up. SDNY is a federal court district. Each federal court district has a US Attorney. Schniederman is the Attorney General of the State of New York.

Now there are reports that Mueller and Schniederman have been in consultation so that if federal charges are pardoned, Schniederman can bring state charges for those acts that are both federal and state offenses.

A side note: Related to this is a highly publicized effort underway to change NY law to allow a pardoned federal crime to be prosecuted in that state. Right now it is prohibited.

Edited to add: You are correct about the concept of an investigation handed over to a federal district by Mueller (in this case, the SDNY) possibly being brought back later to Mueller if the facts warrant.

FakeNoose

(32,630 posts)
46. I believe it was Rod Rosenstein's call
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:04 PM
May 2018

We had a discussion about this on DU a couple weeks ago. SDNY reports to Rosenstein also, he wanted to offload some of the burden because Mueller is covering so much on this investigation. There were political and strategic benefits to having SDNY take over the Cohen raid.

BTW Eric Schneiderman doesn't work for the FBI, he's the Attorney General for the State of New York.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
34. Yep, Schnneiderman, several,already getting their ducks in order
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:26 PM
May 2018

Trump has made too many enemies. He has no friends,only paid lick spittles.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
35. Conspiring,
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:53 PM
May 2018

And committing treason against this country by Cohen and trump and many others may be why they're so desperate now, and if trump does anything they'll lower the boom on them all. This will soon happen as more leaks out about what they've done, and not from Mueller, but from the free press and others involved in uncovering their crimes. Trump's already done. They know what he did.

liberalla

(9,237 posts)
43. Yes, paying the hackers is a HUGE deal... Collusion? Obviously.
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:25 PM
May 2018

I can't wait for EVERYTHING to be out in the open and common knowledge!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
44. Wow. Looks like Mueller has hit a bullseye. The direct link to Trump.
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:54 PM
May 2018

How Trump has kept himself out of many things - by using his fixer Cohen as his arm.

What I wouldn't give to see what the NY prosecutors seized from Cohen. I bet it's a treasure trove. I'm salivating just thinking of the prospect of tapes. Tapes so he can relive his threats to people? Or tapes so he can blackmail people later? I hope these things see the light of day.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
45. If this is true, Cohen had nearly a year to clean up his records before Mueller raided him.
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:56 PM
May 2018

Even a dumbass like Cohen would've shit his pants when a special counsel was appointed, and destroyed everything even remotely incriminating.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
48. Not necessarily
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:42 PM
May 2018

Forensic technology hardware/software is readily available to law enforcement, and can track down digital files that have been deleted etc. It's amazing what they can find.

Also, remember that electronic communications are, at the very least, two way, if not more. There are usually multiple copies that exist.

Michael is not the brightest star in the heavens, so I doubt he thought of every possible precaution against forensic technology.

Stupid Watergate is right!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
60. I am sure the 16 cell phones they found in a drawer will reveal something.
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:10 PM
May 2018

It could be that a lot of these guys really do not fully understand how digital files can be searched.

a lot of what they were doing was old school mob shit. Cohen going to Italy and from there to Prague, cause no passports needed from Italy.
All that stuff worked well for years, no one seemed too curious. and Trump oozing supreme confidence.
" I'm gonna be a king, whaddya worried about? People have to do as I say".

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
49. I don't understand something.
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:44 PM
May 2018

The Steele dossier has been in circulation since mid-2016. I was able to download it before it hit Buzzfeed. Why is this news now? Because the MSM stamped their imprimatur on it?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
50. I haven't a clue. unless...
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:13 PM
May 2018

There was so much argument about it that it was being used but not discussed.

Mike Niendorff

(3,459 posts)
56. Ok, you've got my attention here.
Sun May 6, 2018, 05:43 AM
May 2018

Some very interesting info on that twitter thread, particularly toward the end.

Thanks for posting this.


MDN

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
57. I bet Manafort wanted to be Chief of Staff, and that was why
Sun May 6, 2018, 10:24 AM
May 2018

he told IQ45 he'd work the campaign for free. When he got cut, Cohen took over the muddy underbelly of the campaign, including paying off the women, hackers, bots, etc. He probably thought he was heir apparent to a West Wing office, but donald cut him out, telling him he needed Cohen in NY. Sounds to me like trump knew about everything, and tried to keep distance between himself and the dirty partner in crime. I'm amazed Cohen would keep quiet given how much dirty work was shoved on him, and then he was cut from the high profile, fancy appointment.

Botany

(70,489 posts)
58. Lay low in Bulgaria?
Sun May 6, 2018, 11:32 AM
May 2018

BTW look @ #4 in the Steele document … it mentions that if Hillary wins the election then
some of the “operatives” should go to Plovdiv, Bulgaria to “lay low” please remember the picture
of Ivanka Trump and Wendy Deng (Vlad Putin’s girl friend) was taken in Bulgaria just prior to
the Cohen/Russian meet up in Prague in Aug/Sept. 2016.

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