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lame54

(35,248 posts)
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:39 PM May 2018

A Reality No One Is Willing To Accept

Trump is NOT leaving the White House on his own
He will NOT resign
He will NOT leave after impeachment
An indictment won't even do it

Force is the only way
And I don't see it going down like that

This is not something anybody is planning for

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A Reality No One Is Willing To Accept (Original Post) lame54 May 2018 OP
I guess we should hope for a military coup. nt DURHAM D May 2018 #1
I accept it kimbutgar May 2018 #2
The only way he leaves is if he loses in 2020. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #3
He could well be impeached. But the Senate removal trial won't satisfy us Bucky May 2018 #23
If he is impeached and convicted, he's gone. Otherwise, you are probably right. Hoyt May 2018 #4
As much as I dont like Trump D_Master81 May 2018 #5
Sorry, not buying this. dameatball May 2018 #6
You think Trump will leave on his own volition? lame54 May 2018 #9
The GOP will never impeach Trump. guillaumeb May 2018 #7
He could drop dead of natural causes. His age and health boston bean May 2018 #8
KFC - You are our only hope lame54 May 2018 #10
That would be my first choice. smirkymonkey May 2018 #28
You're not mentioning the most likely cause of exit. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #11
But will he... lame54 May 2018 #12
I do, yes. Image is everything to Trump. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #13
Who should apply this Force? sarisataka May 2018 #14
After the November elections JNelson6563 May 2018 #15
Only if congress has dem majority lunasun May 2018 #16
If we don't there is no hope for the USA. JNelson6563 May 2018 #20
But he won't leave on his own lame54 May 2018 #17
It might come to him just not being let back in, then. greyl May 2018 #18
He will be escorted. JNelson6563 May 2018 #19
that's not a given lame54 May 2018 #21
He'll almost certainly be there till Jan 20, 2021 Bucky May 2018 #22
he needs to lose and lose BIG in 2020 Cha May 2018 #24
Rather, he needs to lose BIG in November. Eyeball_Kid May 2018 #30
You're right.. starting with November 2018! Cha May 2018 #33
as someone else posted on here months ago... Javaman May 2018 #25
I've thought that for a long time even if he loses he is not going to leave. blueinredohio May 2018 #26
He will cease being President IF the Senate votes to remove him from office Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #27
I agree w/ you...with the way things are going, RUMP when he loses the SWBTATTReg May 2018 #29
Help us Colonel Sanders...YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE! Thunderbeast May 2018 #31
drumpf, along with many others, will be indicted, tried, found guilty democratisphere May 2018 #32

kimbutgar

(21,027 posts)
2. I accept it
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:42 PM
May 2018

And the more in stays in the White House with a complicit congress and a compliant scared media he will grow stronger. The parallels to Hitler are scary. The right wing media industrial complex and his brain washed cult members and a rcista police force might we too much gif us nice liberals you overcome.




And I want to be wrong!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
3. The only way he leaves is if he loses in 2020.
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:46 PM
May 2018

Or termed in 2024. He will not be impeached and convicted.

And he will not resign.

Bucky

(53,926 posts)
23. He could well be impeached. But the Senate removal trial won't satisfy us
Mon May 7, 2018, 02:06 AM
May 2018

We can only get rid of him the old-fashioned way, through the ballot box.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
5. As much as I dont like Trump
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:09 PM
May 2018

I didnt like that the GOP said basically the same thing about Obama. Until there is something to suggest otherwise, I will believe he will leave when the time comes. Let's hope it happens before 2020, but I doubt it will.

boston bean

(36,217 posts)
8. He could drop dead of natural causes. His age and health
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:16 PM
May 2018

factors put it in the realm of possibilities. .

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. That would be my first choice.
Mon May 7, 2018, 10:07 AM
May 2018

Not just his age, diet and lack of exercise, but the enormous amount of stress he's under, his inability to deal with anything that doesn't go his way, and the fact that he is quick to anger all add to his risk factors.

bearsfootball516

(6,372 posts)
13. I do, yes. Image is everything to Trump.
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:37 PM
May 2018

He would rather have the last image of him as president be walking out of the White House and boarding Marine One, than being dragged out kicking and screaming by the National Guard.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
15. After the November elections
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:51 PM
May 2018

impeachment proceedings can begin. Once that happens, and of course charges will likely be pending by then from Mueller's investigation, it will be all over whether he likes it or not.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
19. He will be escorted.
Mon May 7, 2018, 01:54 AM
May 2018

He will go because he won't want to be taken out in handcuffs in front of the cameras.

Bucky

(53,926 posts)
22. He'll almost certainly be there till Jan 20, 2021
Mon May 7, 2018, 02:04 AM
May 2018

He won't get support from Republicans if he tries to defy the election. He may screw with the election process, but if the outcome is clear, he won't have the option of defying the Electoral College. If he's clearly defeated in the polls, force will not be necessary.

But you're right that it is imperative that we work toward a decisive rejection of trumpism in 2018 and 2020

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
30. Rather, he needs to lose BIG in November.
Mon May 7, 2018, 10:09 AM
May 2018

The House and Senate must be turned Democratic for action to take place quickly and decisively. GOPers have a lock on the propaganda machine with their control of Congress. They will continue to support Spanky until their support doesn't matter.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
26. I've thought that for a long time even if he loses he is not going to leave.
Mon May 7, 2018, 10:03 AM
May 2018

He's going to say the system is rigged, his supporters are going to go nuts and he will have to be forcibly removed.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
27. He will cease being President IF the Senate votes to remove him from office
Mon May 7, 2018, 10:06 AM
May 2018

If two thirds of the Senate upholds impeachment, he is toast. Period. The question is whether he can round up 35 Republican Senators to keep him in office. If he can't even do that, then he can't hole up in the oval office, Pence will become resident. But he might put together those 35 votes,

SWBTATTReg

(22,044 posts)
29. I agree w/ you...with the way things are going, RUMP when he loses the
Mon May 7, 2018, 10:08 AM
May 2018

next election in 2020, will claim fraud, and refuse to accept the results, even though I suspect (just a guess) that the results will be clearly in favor of the democratic candidate opposing RUMP. What happens then? RUMP will call his NRA buddies and they'll surround the WH?

Oh god what a mess...

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
32. drumpf, along with many others, will be indicted, tried, found guilty
Mon May 7, 2018, 11:44 AM
May 2018

and removed from office. If the military must remove him and his cronies, then so be it! drumpf et al will leave a horrible stain on American history.

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