North Korea Spokesman states:

[busterbrown]

In so many words.... Tells U.S."not tot take credit for our denuclearization " "Stop Misleading" Your sanctions are not responsible"..

Man if they hold true and stand behind this statement? Donnie is gonna have a shit fit !


https://www.thedailybeast.com/north-korea-to-us-dont-take-credit-for-denuclearization?ref=home

[Cary]

1. As much as I despise #fakepresident...

I can't root against him on NK.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

2. Are you saying Trump might not be the absolutely worst world leader?

This might be true. Or, maybe Trump is held back by other constitutional structures.

But I'd agree that there are a few worse leaders in the world. Very few.

[Cary]

8. There are 26 million lives at immediate risk in South Korea

God only knows how many more lives are at risk. I prefer to see peace over all else. That's all I'm saying.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

30. That's not the point of this

The point is questioning whether or not Trump had anything to do with it. If he had anything to do with it, it was probably the shared concern between China, NK, and SK that Trump is a madman whom might get everybody killed. KJU is one too, but is apparently not so far gone that he doesn't have a survival instinct. And, possibly, because he can't test any more nukes right now anyway. Becoming interested in peace buys him some time and goodwill also.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Rump a. has NOTHING to do with any possible advancements in the NK situatoin

and b. is doing exactly what Putin and Bibi tell him to do

[malaise]

4. So then join him in the lies

Whatever
Your position explains the mess that is US foreign policy. Bush et al lied the country into an illegal invasion and occupation. Bush violated international conventions and tortured people but many could not root against him.
Truth does matter

[Cary]

7. Wtf?

Because I hope for something good to come from his policy on NK, that means I join #fakepresident in his lies?

[malaise]

9. You said you can't root against him

It is South Korea and North Korea who have been discussing peace for years.
It is a lie that this is being pushed by the Con. I do not root for lies.

[Cary]

13. I said nothing about that

[malaise]

14. You responded to the following

In so many words.... Tells U.S."not tot take credit for our denuclearization " "Stop Misleading" Your sanctions are not responsible"..
with this

As much as I despise #fakepresident...

I can't root against him on NK.

[Cary]

15. I re-read my post

I was clear. I have to support #fakepresident's efforts. I said nothing about approving of his lies and distortions. That's your extrapolation and I don't appreciate having words out in my mouth.

[smirkymonkey]

16. What you are missing is that his so-called "efforts" are not responsible for what is taking

place right now between NK and SK. It is the culmination of years of diplomatic efforts on the part of the South Koreans and Trump just happened to get lucky by the fact that the meeting happened during his watch.

As far as sanctions go, China probably had a lot more influence that we did. As stated in a BBC article on the subject "...it may be China's recent enforcement of UN sanctions that hit North Korea hardest. China accounts for more than 90% of North Korea's trade, and while the Security Council member voted in favour of the UN sanctions against their long-time ally, they rarely upheld those, reports the Council on Foreign Relations. However, in this past year, China appears to have enforced the sanctions."

[Cary]

17. Oh good

So you're now telling me that I don't get a point that I specifically didnt address.

Look, I despise absolutely everything about #fakepresident. Ok? I'm still hoping for the best while we wait out this catastrophe, and then I hope for a rapid recovery.

I don't see how I have any affect on that one way or another. I have no say in this. I was as disenfranchised by this stolen election as you were and since my Senators and Representative are all great Democrats I have done and am.doing everything I could do and can do. I am upset enough as it is. I don't need people putting words in my mouth and dumping on me for no good reason.

[malaise]

18. Precisely

What's more the first person he met with was Xi. It's not always about the Western power.

[EX500rider]

29. Actually i doubt anybody but Kim knows how much the ramped up sanctions..

....and B-1 bombers flying off his coast had to do with his overtures of peace.

[busterbrown]

22. Plus This

Anytime any of us on the other side of crevice gives Trump Credit for anything..

Enables him to further destroy our country...

His base becomes more entrenched in his insanity...and will walk around with huge smiles stating' "you
see, you see", He's saved our country"

[malaise]

24. +1,000

I want no part in normalizing this vulgar thug who makes lying a way of life.

[busterbrown]

20. Anytime you give credit to Trump...any credit at all..

You are giving him ammo to destroy our country further...

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. Exactly, for instance the economy, 85% of any improvement is due to OBAMA policies and the

other 15% is due to RUMP policies that will massively enrich the wealthy and massively hurt everybody else over the next few years.

[Cha]

3. yeah, it's a shame when you believe

someone like the NK spokesperson over the LIAR in the wh.

[Silver Gaia]

5. I don't think Trump really has squat to do with it.

He just wants to claim credit. So I can both believe them and despise him. He's just lucky nukes didn't fly over crap he has said and done. I don't and won't give him any credit for something he doesn't deserve.

[TheSmarterDog]

6. NK is offering concessions b/c they destroyed their nuke lab.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/asia/north-korea-nuclear-test-site-punggye-ri-intl/index.html

[bobGandolf]

10. I do not think Goofus....

I do not believe Trump had anything to do with 95% of what he takes credit for. Let's hope he doesn't ruin a fantastic opportunity for peace between the N & S Koreans. I do not think his ego will let him stay quiet.

[watoos]

11. I have no proof for this statement

but I feel that Russia and or China are behind this. I feel they had a talk with Un and offered him something and want Trump to get credit to keep him in power. There is no other logical reason why Un did a complete 180.

Also, there is no reporting about his underground testing facility caving in and burying his scientists. Did it happen or not? If so, it's the cave in that stopped the testing and not any other reason.

[roamer65]

19. The proof is Kim's train trip to Beijing.

It was his first trip to a foreign country since assuming power.

He was flat out told he’s under the Sino-Russian sphere of influence and he will behave exactly as they want OR ELSE.

He is now playing along with the Sino-Russian gambit for Korean reunification.

I would be a C note on it. There was a picture of Kim and Xi together and Kim looked like a whipped pup.

The Chinese want Korea reunified and under there influence.

[bronxiteforever]

28. Absolutely. Xi wants Korea in the Chinese sphere

TOKYO -- Japan and China will cooperate closely to ensure North Korea denuclearizes, their leaders agreed Friday, as Beijing searches for ways to stay involved in the peace process even as Washington moves in.
U.S. President Donald Trump is to hold his own summit with Kim late this month or in early June. But Beijing is loath to cede influence over any Korean peace process to Washington. Kong Xuanyou, China's vice minister of foreign affairs, said Friday that Japan's active involvement will be essential in building peace on the peninsula. Insisting on Japan's inclusion could give China some leverage to shape how peace and denuclearization play out. If the North demands economic aid in exchange for denuclearization, Japan could help put up some of the funding, making it worth China's while to court Tokyo ahead of time.

Tokyo also stands to benefit from such an association. Abe and Xi agreed in their call that their countries would cooperate on the matter of Japanese nationals abducted by North Korea decades ago, some of whom have never returned home. While Pyongyang has in the past agreed to investigate the fate of these abductees, progress has stalled in recent years.

The two sides agreed to continue improving relations when leaders from China, Japan and South Korea meet in Tokyo on Wednesday. That event will mark Chinese Premier Li Keqiang's first visit to Japan in seven years.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-Relations/Xi-turns-to-Abe-to-keep-a-role-in-Korea-talks

Xi knows he will outlast Cheeto so getting the US out of Korea definitely strengthens China’s dominance in Asia.

[Scarsdale]

12. People are suggesting, seriously

that he should get the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing peace to the Korean Peninsula. The TRUTH is that the ground at the test site in N. K. is collapsing, the area is rife with unbreathable air. They HAD to stop before their part of the world was destroyed. tRump is excellent at destroying things, but he had nothing to do with this. Dignity, honor, respect, civility - yes- he has destroyed those. He had help from his fellow traitors in the gop, plus the Russians he thinks so highly of.

[busterbrown]

23. Any bit...any type of credit Trump Gets.

Helps entrenching him in his presidency.. In this situation..its all the more harmful.
There are a lot of people on our side of the spectrum, who do not like Trump at all
are still grateful to him...for perhaps avoiding a nuclear attack..

As we are seeing today from one of our posters.

[lpbk2713]

21. "Save your bullshitting for the dotards who voted for you."

"Everyone else can see right through you."

[Achilleaze]

25. "Tell republican conman Dirty Donny* to stop lying." - NK

* aka republican Draft-dodger-in-Chief