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moriah

(8,311 posts)
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:17 PM May 2018

Okay, my time to be pilloried -- "wypipo".

Whether I am a mongrel American whose ancestors we've traced come from Europe, a "white person", or what someone might call "wypipo" doesn't really make a bit of difference in my life.

If there's a negative connotation of "wypipo" that I'm engaging in, I'd like to know so I can change it. Part of privilege is not seeing what's in front of you because it wasn't necessary for you as a survival mechanism. Though that's my job to figure out, it's helpful when others show the way.

But as a person who is pale, this word has no effect on me.

A person can call me that, and it's not going to affect my ability to get an apartment or a mortgage. I've never even HEARD of it being spraypainted on someone's property.

It's not going to change how I have to walk through my day any more than "cracker", "honkey", or "ginger". It was never used to oppress me or my ancestors. Neither were the others.

And if you're suddenly feeling attacked by the existence of the word....

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Okay, my time to be pilloried -- "wypipo". (Original Post) moriah May 2018 OP
Not here to disagree with what you say mokawanis May 2018 #1
Correct, as a member of the privileged class neither this word or anything, for that matter Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #2
I think the fact it makes people uncomfortable is good HopeAgain May 2018 #3
Bigots are going to be bigots. At least they self identify by using this word. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #4
The problem is that it explicitly targets a race for collective guilt PatentlyDemocratic May 2018 #5
You will be pilloried for that. guillaumeb May 2018 #6
Collective guilt should be experienced Skidmore May 2018 #11
Well stated. Thank you. nt NCTraveler May 2018 #7
It's just your feelings that matter, after all. Loki Liesmith May 2018 #8
We have bigger fish to fry in case you haven't noticed. Trust Buster May 2018 #9
No pillorying from me, moriah. calimary May 2018 #10
It may or may not be derived mercuryblues May 2018 #12
Let it go. Iggo May 2018 #13

mokawanis

(4,438 posts)
1. Not here to disagree with what you say
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:20 PM
May 2018

but I will say you're offering nothing new that hasn't already been said by many du'ers.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. Correct, as a member of the privileged class neither this word or anything, for that matter
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:22 PM
May 2018

will prevent you or myself from achieving what we want as long as we are willing to put out some effort, a fraction of the effort we would need to apply were we not of that category.

This discussion is simple, either non POC can learn why whining about this word is in and of itself privilege, or they wont learn that.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
3. I think the fact it makes people uncomfortable is good
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:24 PM
May 2018

Is a wypipo a person who claims to be liberal and for equality, but moves into a gentrified area that has displaced the under-priviledged? Is a wypipo a person who decries the downfall of public education and sends their kid to private school? Is a wypipo someone who would like to boycott Starbucks after the arrest of two black people for nothing, but can't do without their caramel macchiato? Is a wypipo someone who thinks Black Lives Matter is too controversial for the Democratic Party to get tied into?

Discrimination and economic inequality is rampant. Maybe it is time us in the suburbs and "gentrified areas" do get a little uncomfortable.

Bok_Tukalo

(4,322 posts)
4. Bigots are going to be bigots. At least they self identify by using this word.
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:26 PM
May 2018

So I guess that's its utility.

 
5. The problem is that it explicitly targets a race for collective guilt
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:27 PM
May 2018

I think the term is foolish and ineffectual. It’s simply divisive and doesn’t articulate a grievance effectively.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
11. Collective guilt should be experienced
Wed May 9, 2018, 02:14 PM
May 2018

and used as an impetus for change. Guilt feelings are a manifestation of empathy and ownership.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
10. No pillorying from me, moriah.
Wed May 9, 2018, 02:05 PM
May 2018

I’m actually quite fascinated by the coinage of a new term. Where did it start? When did it start? And so forth. Language arts. I’m kinda hooked. And more than just kinda dorky.

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