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Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
Wed May 9, 2018, 02:46 PM May 2018

Sanders unveils plan to bolster labor unions



"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) unveiled new legislation on Wednesday aimed at increasing the power of labor unions and lifting stagnant wages nationwide.

The bill, titled The Workplace Democracy Act, would expedite the formation process for unions, allowing workers to sign up to be represented rather than being elected into membership and expedite timelines for negotiation between unions and companies, according to The Washington Post.

Sanders acknowledged that the bill would likely not pass on its own, since Republicans control the White House and both chambers of Congress. But Sanders said it could spotlight the issue of stalled wage growth, even with jobless claims at their lowest point since 1973.

“It’s not a question of just jobs — it’s a question of what those jobs pay. Many of the occupations that are growing in this country do not pay workers a living wage," Sanders told The Post."

(snip)

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/386926-sanders-unveils-plan-to-increase-power-of-unions

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Sanders unveils plan to bolster labor unions (Original Post) Uncle Joe May 2018 OP
Is he going to hold another rally? MineralMan May 2018 #1
That's beneath you MineralMan. Uncle Joe May 2018 #2
No, it's not at all. MineralMan May 2018 #5
This is a marathon not a sprint MineralMan, we will win some and lose some. Uncle Joe May 2018 #6
No he is not the most "popular active politician"..he is no more active nor popular than any other. Wwcd May 2018 #14
Bernie is certainly more active than Abraham Lincoln that's why active is included. n/t Uncle Joe May 2018 #18
Lol. They maybe need to define "ACTIVE". Wwcd May 2018 #20
If it makes you happy, here is a more specific definition Uncle Joe May 2018 #24
Oh Lordy..Common Dreams!! Wwcd May 2018 #25
You asked for a definition, that's as good as any. If you can find an article that Uncle Joe May 2018 #26
Haaahaaa..I refer you to... Wwcd May 2018 #29
I refer you to my post# 19 about two posts below this one in response Uncle Joe May 2018 #30
Most popular, eh. You'd think that would get better results, then MineralMan May 2018 #15
You know as well as I do endorsements while certainly beneficial Uncle Joe May 2018 #19
True. Maryland doesn't appear to have been included in the 'most active popularity poll.' Wwcd May 2018 #23
Good to see focus on these issues & support by 12 prominent Dems. Hi Uncle Joe! appalachiablue May 2018 #32
I agree on all counts. Hi appalachiablue! Uncle Joe May 2018 #36
Unions, democracy in the workplace: appalachiablue May 2018 #44
I am sure this legislation will pass and all...right? Demsrule86 May 2018 #38
Oh Irony thy name is MineralMan HenryWallace May 2018 #35
No, it isn't. n/t QC May 2018 #46
Good. Unions Bettie May 2018 #3
I agree Bettie Uncle Joe May 2018 #4
How exactly is proposing union legislation going to help us when it has a snowball's chance in hell Demsrule86 May 2018 #39
To differientate the Democratic from the Republican Party for those millions of Americans Uncle Joe May 2018 #41
This is funny. 2:38 PM NCTraveler May 2018 #7
Because? Uncle Joe May 2018 #9
Pretty obvious. NCTraveler May 2018 #12
Lol grantcart May 2018 #33
Unions BlueDog22 May 2018 #8
Going back to the days of Ronald Reagan. Uncle Joe May 2018 #11
Unions confuse me. Doreen May 2018 #10
Having a piece of any business can be exciting. In general Uncle Joe May 2018 #17
My take is that there are 'good' and 'bad' unions. pangaia May 2018 #34
Mandated recognition of card check has been proposed a few times over the years -- one of those WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #13
K & R Correct on that.. Wwcd May 2018 #22
Why are secret ballots in elections bad? MichMan May 2018 #16
They're not. But the argument is if a certain percentage of employees sign authorization forms, WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #21
I believe that secret ballot elections are important MichMan May 2018 #43
I love this plan... Mike Nelson May 2018 #27
I agree on all counts Mike Nelson but I also believe it be important for political leaders Uncle Joe May 2018 #28
Sanders and "over a dozen Democrats, including Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris and pampango May 2018 #31
Hi pampango Uncle Joe May 2018 #37
The knee-jerk reaction to all things Sanders is rather silly. Garrett78 May 2018 #45
K&R mvd May 2018 #40
Hi mvd, it's good to see you again. Uncle Joe May 2018 #42
K&R! Omaha Steve May 2018 #47

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
5. No, it's not at all.
Wed May 9, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

Yesterday, for example, every single Our Revolution-endorsed candidate in the four primaries held LOST. Bernie Sanders is rapidly becoming irrelevant in Democratic politics.

I suggest he go back to DC and really get to work at the job he was elected to do by the people of Vermont.

That's what I suggest. He's not doing very well out on the hustings. Not very well at all.

On another note, I haven't seen your posts much lately. I hope we'll see more of you here.

Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
6. This is a marathon not a sprint MineralMan, we will win some and lose some.
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:04 PM
May 2018

Bernie; still the most popular active politician in America today is doing just fine.

https://morningconsult.com/2018/01/23/senator-rankings-jan-2018/


It's good to be back and thank you for the kind words.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
14. No he is not the most "popular active politician"..he is no more active nor popular than any other.
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:17 PM
May 2018

So "most popular politician" has now expanded to "most popular ACTIVE politician"

Was that on the first poll or is that from a new revised poll?

Just asking.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
20. Lol. They maybe need to define "ACTIVE".
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:39 PM
May 2018

Most "active (breathing) popular politician over 70 with white hair & not named Joe Biden"

They need to narrow down the definition of "politician" too maybe.

A lot of people fit that skillset.

" popular + active + politician" = ??

Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
24. If it makes you happy, here is a more specific definition
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:49 PM
May 2018


(snip)

While Sanders—who polls have shown ranks as the most popular active politician of any party in the U.S.—ran his insurgent 2016 primary campaign on a platform that railed against extreme inequality and the power of the "billionaire class" while also rallying support for an agenda that included a Medicare for All healthcare system, free higher education, taxing Wall Street, an urgent jobs and energy transformation program to address climate change, and an end to the "outrageous" size of the Pentagon budget, Biden appears more comfortable using the Clinton and Obama playbook of the Democratic Party that hopes to address inequality while doing everything possible not to offend the key beneficiaries of the system that drives it."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/05/09/joe-biden-clarifies-hes-no-bernie-sanders-i-dont-think-500-billionaires-are-reason




Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
26. You asked for a definition, that's as good as any. If you can find an article that
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:57 PM
May 2018

refutes Bernie as being the most popular politician in America please share it.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
29. Haaahaaa..I refer you to...
Wed May 9, 2018, 04:10 PM
May 2018

Certainly not in Maryland, apparently.
Dismal turnout there for BenJ & Bernie.

And here is more telling as to the most active popularity contest.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210595665

Not a single candidate endorsed by Sander's own Our Rev Pac has ever won?

What the heck does THAT say.
It says the popularity claim to fame is skewed beyond being taken seriously.



Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
30. I refer you to my post# 19 about two posts below this one in response
Wed May 9, 2018, 04:22 PM
May 2018

MineralMan's post on this subject.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
15. Most popular, eh. You'd think that would get better results, then
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:19 PM
May 2018

when he endorses someone, right? I remember that poll. It was far too limited to really mean anything.

Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
19. You know as well as I do endorsements while certainly beneficial
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:28 PM
May 2018

have limited value.

As I stated on a different thread a few days back "Any President or for that matter Presidential Candidate worth their salt should know the buck stops with them"

The same holds true for any candidate in regards to their political race.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
23. True. Maryland doesn't appear to have been included in the 'most active popularity poll.'
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:45 PM
May 2018

That was a dismal showing.

appalachiablue

(41,114 posts)
32. Good to see focus on these issues & support by 12 prominent Dems. Hi Uncle Joe!
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:32 PM
May 2018

"You show your base that you’re serious about this, and unions are still an important part of Democrats’ base," he said.

Despite the likely vehement opposition in the Republican majority Congress, Sanders's bill was co-sponsored by more than a dozen Democrats, including Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Kamala Harris (Calif.) and Elizabeth Warren (Mass.).

During his 2016 presidential campaign, Sanders pushed for a nationwide minimum wage increase."



Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
38. I am sure this legislation will pass and all...right?
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:16 PM
May 2018

Of course it will be moot when SCOTUS guts unions in June...and by way Biden is more popular.

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
35. Oh Irony thy name is MineralMan
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:55 PM
May 2018

Oh man it must feel good to be smug....... it's been awhile; what November 2016?

Here is a prediction, this will end no better than that!

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
39. How exactly is proposing union legislation going to help us when it has a snowball's chance in hell
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:18 PM
May 2018

of passing? I am so sick of this.

Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
41. To differientate the Democratic from the Republican Party for those millions of Americans
Wed May 9, 2018, 08:14 PM
May 2018

that believe there is no difference.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
10. Unions confuse me.
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:12 PM
May 2018

I myself and others I have talked to that are/were part of one get screwed. I belonged to a union in a school district and they were well in bed with the administration. The other people I talked to that work or have worked for school districts say the same. I have talked to others in unions of different occupations and they have nothing but good to say about them. Safeway union confuses me also because I hear half and half. Then again I do not know if they still have a union. There is a grocery store where I live where the employees voted for the union to dismantle. In turn they all have a piece of the business ( not sure how that works either but they seemed happier. )

Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
17. Having a piece of any business can be exciting. In general
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:22 PM
May 2018

I believe that if every American felt they had an ownership stake in our nation we would be a lot better off.

I believe we do need major union policy reforms, the pendulum has swung too far toward major employers and away from employees.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
34. My take is that there are 'good' and 'bad' unions.
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:47 PM
May 2018

Nationally, and Locals.. good and bad leaders....
honest people and crooks...
Like in everything...

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,315 posts)
13. Mandated recognition of card check has been proposed a few times over the years -- one of those
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:16 PM
May 2018

reliably partisan things they trot out when they need to "woo labor."

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
22. K & R Correct on that..
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:42 PM
May 2018

Its hardly a bright new idea.
Just dusted off every few years for campaign ads.

Been there many times.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,315 posts)
21. They're not. But the argument is if a certain percentage of employees sign authorization forms,
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:42 PM
May 2018

holding an election is an unnecessary disruption.

MichMan

(11,900 posts)
43. I believe that secret ballot elections are important
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:18 PM
May 2018

It is one of the foundations of a democratic system of governing.

People voting for their own destiny should be free from intimidation, bullying, threats, or coercion, regardless whether it comes from those opposing unionization or those supporting it.

As an employee, I wouldn't want my employer knowing exactly who did and who didn't vote for representation wondering if it would be held against me

If enough people sign cards freely, then the union should have no concerns about not winning the election by secret ballot

Uncle Joe

(58,338 posts)
28. I agree on all counts Mike Nelson but I also believe it be important for political leaders
Wed May 9, 2018, 04:01 PM
May 2018

to state clearly and concisely what they stand for.

Whether they're running in a political race or not.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
31. Sanders and "over a dozen Democrats, including Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris and
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:12 PM
May 2018

Elizabeth Warren ... Despite the likely vehement opposition in the Republican majority Congress ..."

I am not going to trash this bill just because Sanders joined 13 Democratic senators in co-sponsoring it.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
45. The knee-jerk reaction to all things Sanders is rather silly.
Thu May 10, 2018, 01:08 AM
May 2018

While his severe downplaying of the role racism played in Trump's rise irritates the hell out of me, Sanders does raise important points.

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