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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:51 PM Aug 2012

Just a quick thought/question on this Chick-Fil-A thing...

Where was all this support for free speech and for standing up for your principles when JCPenney's was being trashed for hiring Ellen? Y'all remember that?

I know I do. One million moms (so called Christians) having shit fits over a gay being the face of a family store. It was all over the news, including Faux.


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Just a quick thought/question on this Chick-Fil-A thing... (Original Post) one_voice Aug 2012 OP
Not a fair comparison Xipe Totec Aug 2012 #1
No, not talking about elected officials... one_voice Aug 2012 #7
They think 'free speech' means... knowledgeispwr Aug 2012 #2
I remember that and I was so proud that so many stood up for JCPenney & Ellen. I've tried not to Booster Aug 2012 #3
Corporate-Built-and-Owned "Franchise" Locations i.m.ok Aug 2012 #8
Oh, ok. I didn't know that, but he's still hurting the people who run each store, so he's still Booster Aug 2012 #11
It's not just a man excercising his right to voice his opinion-- far from it. nightscanner59 Aug 2012 #13
hypocrites of the highest order spanone Aug 2012 #4
I don't understand tjwash Aug 2012 #5
Bit of a difference. i.m.ok Aug 2012 #6
Another bit of a difference. sadbear Aug 2012 #9
Agreed! i.m.ok Aug 2012 #14
The one million moms could not field a regular Wednesday night bridge club. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #10
But repukes think that being called on their hatred Zoeisright Aug 2012 #12
Imagine ... i.m.ok Aug 2012 #15

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
1. Not a fair comparison
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:00 PM
Aug 2012

The outrage is over elected representatives stepping over the line, and trying to exercise power they do not have..

I can get behind that.

I can also get behind JCPenny hiring Ellen (a person I love, BTW).

And I'm all for boycotting Chick-Fil-A. Let them come to Boston and fail.

I thank Mayor Menino for trying, but it's not his fight, it's ours.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
7. No, not talking about elected officials...
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:26 PM
Aug 2012

about the people that are screaming about their free speech rights and how they're just standing up for their principles, same people that harassed boycotted etc (only they had money behind their efforts) JCPenney's.

They play the victim when the same is done to them.

They're a bunch of whiny hypocrites. It's a one way street.

Booster

(10,021 posts)
3. I remember that and I was so proud that so many stood up for JCPenney & Ellen. I've tried not to
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:03 PM
Aug 2012

get involved with the Chick-Fil-A thing because I really do believe the man has a right to voice his opinion. I think he made a huge mistake because although he profits from each & every franchise, he doesn't own them so I think he's hurting a lot of innocent people who do own them. He's an idiot for sure.

i.m.ok

(6 posts)
8. Corporate-Built-and-Owned "Franchise" Locations
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:27 PM
Aug 2012

Actually, from what I understand, Chick-Fil-A (the corporation) builds every franchise location and then rents it to the franchisee for a confiscatory percentage of the profits.

Booster

(10,021 posts)
11. Oh, ok. I didn't know that, but he's still hurting the people who run each store, so he's still
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:26 AM
Aug 2012

an ass only thinking of himself. Maybe he's got a "Trump" complex & wants to be just like his idol.

nightscanner59

(802 posts)
13. It's not just a man excercising his right to voice his opinion-- far from it.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:47 AM
Aug 2012

Chick Fil A actively donates to far-right wing organizations-- FRC, for example, who spent 25,000 lobbying US congress to NOT condemn Uganda's "kill the gays" bill. My ex interviewed at a Chick Fil A in Texas circa 1996, walked out of the interview stating he was asked highly personal questions about his faith and sexuality. The organization is notorious for drumming up "firable" offenses for those suspected of homosexuality. Its out and out human rights they have denied gays and suspected gays in the name of Cheezus.

tjwash

(8,219 posts)
5. I don't understand
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:21 PM
Aug 2012

Did the Police or the Army shut down all of the chik-fil-ahole stores, or confiscate their earnings? Or did the person from the company who said the comments get arrested and end up in jail or something for saying it?

I'm hearing a lot about defending free speech, and a lot of outrage from people so I am assuming something like that happened. Or are they just confusing shoving their views of how they believe everyone should live down everyone's throats and thinking evreyone should shut up and listen to them, with free speech again?

i.m.ok

(6 posts)
6. Bit of a difference.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:25 PM
Aug 2012

I think it can be said that there's a bit of a difference between hiring an actress and weighing in on a company level as being in favor of denying rights to an entire segment of the population.

That said, as long as they're willing to serve anyone, they're welcome to their hateful, exclusionary speech. But I'm not a fascist, so it's not hard for me to do that.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
9. Another bit of a difference.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:28 PM
Aug 2012

I think it can be said that there's a bit of a difference between weighing in on a company level as being in favor of denying rights to an entire segment of the population and actively giving millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
10. The one million moms could not field a regular Wednesday night bridge club.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:31 PM
Aug 2012

But telling stupid people to go buy bread chicken sandwiches because JESUS wants them to ... THAT will fill the drive thru.

The thing these dopes miss is that eating this stuff will accelerate the death of the homophobes. So I think we should encourage them to repeat this display of unity weekly for the next few years.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
12. But repukes think that being called on their hatred
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:39 AM
Aug 2012

is discrimination against THEM. They really think that intolerance for hatred and bigotry is the same as the original hatred and bigotry.

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