Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump: This Will End Badly. And Probably Soon. - by Rick Wilson

[DonViejo]

Giuliani knows Trump well enough to know that Trump will turn on him fast. Here’s a preview of how this is going to go in the coming weeks.

RICK WILSON
05.10.18 5:08 AM ET

Like a bloated, portly fake billionaire rolling off a hooker after a hot 45 seconds of passionate sex, Donald Trump’s ardor for Rudy Giuliani seems to have cooled.

If the White House leaks are any barometer, it sounds more and more as if Donald wants Rudy to get his money off the nightstand and the hell out of his room at the No-Tell-Motel. This is what happens when you work for Trump, and Rudy is old enough, crafty enough, and knows Trump well enough to have known better.

Trump’s hiring of my old boss is a triumph of today’s Trump-right media bubble, where nothing matters but the coverage on Fox and Friends, Hannity, Sinclair stations’ nightly Two Minutes of Hate, and on the nut-site constellation that comprises conservative “news” sites. Trump didn’t hire Rudy’s for skills as a litigator, or as a warrior in the high-speed low-drag social media world of today. He was hired to break shit and make loud noises, and he’s damn good at it. Unfortunately for Rudy, that probably won’t be enough to save him from the Trump curse.

Trump has been mostly unable to hire and retain top-flight litigators because he destroys everyone around him. His record of stacking former staffers like cordwood as they are either fired, humiliated, shamed, permanently scarred, forced to cut off a finger by the Yakuza, morally compromised, or moved into the Witness Protection Program will go down in Presidential history. It’s no secret that he’s a spectacular liar at all times and on all subjects, leaving his legal team constantly wary they have a client who combines a stubborn streak and a self-destructive nature with an endless capacity to lie to them about his marital, financial, and political lies.

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[SWBTATTReg]

1. Can't wait...one day, our ...

abuser in chief will pay the price...and go down in history as one of, if not the worst, pres. ever.

What a honorary title to bestow upon RUMP!

[Kirk Lover]

5. As far as corruption goes I have to say he will. Granted I'm not historian but I'm winging

this one...and I feel good about it.

[FarPoint]

27. If he doesn't go down.

Along with some GOP scum in Congress...if they are not stopped..we will be SLAVES.

[Texin]

8. He's never paid yet. At least not for the totality of his shameless, lawless behaviors.

Why would it start now? The complicit, spineless and supine rethugs are demonstrating that they don't give a shit, and to make matters far worse, the American voters are drifting away from the Dems, primarily because they're bored and finalizing their vacay plans about now. Add to that distillation of total horror, the Dems don't have an identifiable "leader" or message and there's no one on the national level that has captured anyone's attention for the foreseeable future. I don't know the questions asked in the polls conducted by CNN and others that have been presenting their results, but they're very ominous portends that any Dem can't afford to ignore.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Why would it start now? Because he's out of his league. He's not dealing with $100K NYC contractors.

[Ligyron]

23. Precisely.

While I'm not sure he'll totally get what he deserves right away, long term I think he'll lose much of his money, power and fan base once everything comes out.

He'll probably be in civil court the rest of his life and he's made real enemies on all sides.

[lunatica]

29. So why are Democrats winning in the state primaries

If no one cares?

And these are brand New Democrats who are running for the first time because of Trump specifically.

You paint a sad picture but it’s not based in reality.

[SergeStorms]

43. Trump "never paid" before.....

because he always had the advantage of an army of lawyers and politicians to litigate the crap out of any case. The people who sued Trump were contractors, suppliers, tenants and such. They didn't have anywhere near the legal, political and financial resources it took to stand up to Trump's legion of lawyers. The vast majority of them vacated their lawsuits as soon as they saw the price that was going to be paid to continue. Those who did have the wherewithal to continue often settled out of court and were made to sign one of Trump's famous non-disclosure agreements. Trump did pay quite a few times, but no one heard about them because of the NDAs.

This time Trump is up against the U.S. justice system. They have more lawyers than Trump could ever dream of, and they're good lawyers, not Michael Cohens or Rudy Giulianis. The Mueller investigation also has more financial resources than Trump, so that's another one of his usual weapons not available in his tool box. Trump's net worth is so over-stated that if not for campaign contributions paying his legal fees, he might to close to bankruptcy right now, AGAIN!

This is uncharted territory for Donald Trump. He's always used his bluster and bravado to embarrass his enemies, to belittle them and wear them down psychologically. He's trying to do that with Mueller and Rosenstein, but it's a fruitless effort. They will not be bullied by someone they know is a stupid crook. In a battle of wits with Mueller, Trump is totally without ammunition. These guys are smart, and they've put away criminals 100 times smarter than Donald Trump. They usually dispense of people like Trump before breakfast, in lieu of a cup of coffee.

Trump is going to pay this time, and pay dearly. The fact that he is President at the moment ensures that. If he had lost the election and was not in such a prominent position he might have skated again. Not this time. Trump's ago might prove to be his Waterloo. Wouldn't that be such rich irony? All the things that actually made Donald Trump could finally destroy him. There will be dancing in the streets when Little Donnie Trump succumbs to his own folly. Count on it.

[smirkymonkey]

2. K&R

Pretty funny article.

[PatSeg]

4. Rick Wilson

is a really witty guy. I'm not used to republicans with a sense of humor.

[Kirk Lover]

6. Trump is going to force some Republicans to be Democrats. They realize that they will

have to help destroy their party in order to rebuild it. This is me hoping this would happen. Obviously my "hopes" have been wrong in the past.

[PatSeg]

9. That's the way it looks to me as well

But like you, I am cautiously optimistic, as I have been wrong many times, often overestimating the sanity and reason of the average American.

It is hard to imagine salvaging what is left of this fractured republican party. It certainly would have to be rebuilt from scratch. It is a far cry from my father's republican party.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

42. I have been surprised

that no republican has flipped to the other side of the aisle as so many democrats did years ago to save their sorry asses as the country shifted to the right.

[NastyRiffraff]

17. He does have a way with words:

"Like a bloated, portly fake billionaire rolling off a hooker after a hot 45 seconds of passionate sex, Donald Trump’s ardor for Rudy Giuliani seems to have cooled."

[Elwood P Dowd]

21. Now that is a classic. (nm)

[BBG]

33. Where's the bleach when you need it?

The mental image cannot be disinfected.

[Scarsdale]

45. He might

have been speaking to first "lady" Maleria. Wasn't she an escort before she hit the tRump jackpot? Doesn't she look happy to be Mrs. tRump??? I hope the truth comes out about her, and why she is forced to stay with him. Any woman with self respect would have jettisoned his flabby arse years ago.

[Orsino]

3. If Giuliani can keep from perjuring himself or getting disbarred, he gets what he needs.

Money and his name in the news.

[hatrack]

7. Best paragraph in the whole piece . . .

Add to that the crew of Jared and Ivanka, hard at work with their Lil Machiavels playset. They hate you because haters hate. Duh. Throw in Hapless Leaker, and dead-man-walking John Kelly, Kellyanne von Munchausen and the shitbird chorus on the outside of Trump’s political family and no one gets out of here alive.

[hedda_foil]

10. A bit more because I can't resist.

This White House has a singular leaker at the very top, and by now you should know that 70 percent of the time when “sources close to the President” bitchslap you to the press, you can just strike the words, “sources close to” from the sentence. Trump is like some veldt animal at the edge of a muddy river, continually sniffing the wind for a scent; all he cares about is how the coverage reflects on him, so if he perceives even slightly negative tone, the people sacrificing their reputations for him go under the bus.

Add to that the crew of Jared and Ivanka, hard at work with their Lil Machiavels playset. They hate you because haters hate. Duh. Throw in Hapless Leaker, and dead-man-walking John Kelly, Kellyanne von Munchausen and the shitbird chorus on the outside of Trump’s political family and no one gets out of here alive.

To save yourself, you’ll make the mistake of trying to give him advice. Sensible, correct, legitimate advice. That’s the worst thing you can do because Trump parses counsel as critique and guidance as discipline. At that point, you’re dead, even if you’re too stubborn to lay down and start stinking up the place.

[calimary]

14. I'm still back at the description of the sycophantic staffers "who trail him like

chunks of matter kicked off some fecal comet hurling across the political firmament” - plus the description at the end of that same delicious paragraph about trump’s “sphere of crapulous influence”.

DANG!!!! I need a cigarette... (and I don’t even smoke cigarettes!)

[hedda_foil]

22. Satisfies to the last puff!

I love that paragraph too. Such round and firm and tightly packed metaphors!

[calimary]

30. Round 'n' firm - for sure!

[NCjack]

11. I hope Mueller makes Rudy burn the active FBI employees who leaked on HRC

during the 2016 campaign.

[ellie]

31. Oh yeah!

That would make my decade.

[calimary]

37. Indeed. No attention focused on that part of the story, whatsoever.

I'd like to know why not. I think it's worth being reported, and exposed. So there's no price to pay for the partisan villains who indulged in it.

From what I've read, there were quite a few Hillary haters in the New York field office, who were disciples of that lie-filled screed "Clinton Cash."

[BootinUp]

12. The excerpts above were quite good

I will have to read the whole thing later.

[DownriverDem]

15. We all know & Agree

What and when is this all going to blow up? Pence will be no prize either.

[True Blue American]

16. Third Rate Romance

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[Javaman]

18. hey rudy, is that a bus? nt

[FakeNoose]

19. Give credit where it's due

New Yorkers knew him first. Why didn't the rest of the country listen?

[mopinko]

39. except

that pic is from chicago.

[certainot]

20. i like his writing but he should include the medium most responsible for this disaster

fox is the cartoon censored sanitized cliff notes for all the constant blowharding on 1500 radio stations and fox may be where he gets most of his information but it should be be noted that his guy sam nunberg said he listened to 1000s of hours of talk radio in 2014 for stone cohen trump and hinted that's why they won the primaries. (gabriel sherman - new york magazine - 4/3/16)

where nothing matters but the coverage on Fox and Friends, Hannity, Sinclair stations’ nightly Two Minutes of Hate, and on the nut-site constellation that comprises conservative “news” sites.

if wilson wants to save his party he needs to start mentioning talk radio and limbaugh

[caballojm]

24. Good article, but ...

Wilson loses me at his Rudy worship. Rudy's a rotten scum who does not deserve even a shred of admiration.

[BobTheSubgenius]

25. He's going down in flames, and soon? Say it isn't so.

Tell me it's right now. I absolutely detest this ghoul, although that's hardly rare when talking about that entire cadre.

The magic of Invoking 911 isn't so much used up in Drumpf's mind, as it is totally ignored. He doesn't care. His entire set of criteria is very narrow - in fact, probably just one criterion: "What can you do for me, in this very moment?"

"NounVerb911...you're fired."

[Upthevibe]

26. I'd love to see an article going a little

more into depth but this is a great start....Thanks for posting....

[Ms. Toad]

28. Since he just cut ties with his law firm,

from which he was taking an unpaid leave, he apparently thinks it's a match made in heaven.

[Scarsdale]

46. I read that the

law firm cut ties with Rudy. Horrified about his TV appearances, where he said the firm regularly pays off women for affairs with rich clients. Poor Rudy, on divorce #3. Maybe one of his cousins will console him?

[Ms. Toad]

54. My post was made immediately after the first press release

I didn't bother to go back and edit the post after the story changed.

[ProfessorGAC]

49. Pretty Sure It's The Other Way Around

After his TV debacles, the law firm sent him packing.

[Ms. Toad]

53. This post was made right after the first press release

which phrased it as Giuliani cutting the ties.

I didn't go back and edit my post after the story became clearer.

[Hekate]

32. Highly recommend reading the whole article at the link. Wow. nt

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[Uncle Joe]

34. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, DonViejo

[friendly_iconoclast]

35. K&R

[Garrett78]

36. Not holding my breath.

I still think it's most likely that he serves out his term and maintains the support of at least 1/3rd of the population.

[Scarsdale]

47. Then on to a retirement

financed by taxpayers? If we have to support his orange arse, it should be in a prison someplace.

[sharedvalues]

51. That's good despair propaganda

But it seems pretty obvious that mueller will indict lots of people around him and the GOP will be damaged.


All comes down to turnout and GOTV for Dems in Nov 18. Get on board.

[patricia92243]

38. I'll give him til the end of next week before the Buffoon kicks him out. n/t

[malaise]

40. Rec for the first sentence

[Scalded Nun]

41. Not soon enough

[vlyons]

44. Like I care?

Not! Not at all. I see Giuliani's performance to date as the crazy old man, who hasn't changed his drawers in a week. Who drips spittle down his chin, and is - well, a crazy old guy. Really old. Quite pathetic actually.

[Scarsdale]

48. Poor Rudy.

He will not even be able to disguise himself as a woman, since we all know just how he looks in his dresses.

[McCamy Taylor]

50. My take as well.

[Orsino]

52. There's a rhythm to this failure. It's the cycle of the narcissist:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/973681348593451010

Rudy is just the latest straw being grasped. There were many before him, and there will be more. It's not just Trump's legal team, it's not just his Administration, it's not just his businesses. It's his narcissism.