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0rganism

(23,944 posts)
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:16 PM May 2018

if an undeniable body of evidence emerges that Trump et al conspired with Russian spies in 2016...

...to steal the election, what happens next?

by "undeniable", i mean even Trump's surrogates will publicly admit the bulk of the evidence is un-fake.

what happens after that?

remember: no way a Republican house will vote to impeach, no way a Republican senate will vote to remove

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if an undeniable body of evidence emerges that Trump et al conspired with Russian spies in 2016... (Original Post) 0rganism May 2018 OP
I think the term "undeniable" is hard to come by genxlib May 2018 #1
fair enough, it was meant to be a hypothetical question 0rganism May 2018 #3
No worries genxlib May 2018 #12
First of all, they won't admit it. Girard442 May 2018 #2
Giuliani might 0rganism May 2018 #4
Perhaps nothing. Voltaire2 May 2018 #5
I don't think 45's surrogates will admit to anything. VOX May 2018 #6
Since Trump is not POTUS but a Russian agent/asset conspiring with Russia underthematrix May 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Freethinker65 May 2018 #8
He could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue Nevernose May 2018 #9
If such a thing happens, he may not even be president by then jmg257 May 2018 #10
I still think a lot of Trump sycophants will fall, MGKrebs May 2018 #11

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
1. I think the term "undeniable" is hard to come by
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:23 PM
May 2018

In an era where we can't even agree that the world is round.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
3. fair enough, it was meant to be a hypothetical question
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:29 PM
May 2018

if "undeniable" is too much of a stretch, maybe "substantial" or "potent" would be preferable diction?
regardless, i probably should have clarified that it's hypothetical anyway, since, as you say, after several decades of commercial airflight and NASA photographs, there are still those among us who have difficulty accepting that we live on a spheroid.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
12. No worries
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:27 PM
May 2018

I wasn't trying to undermine your premise. In a round about way, it is my cynical way of answering your question. Some will never believe it. We can only hope to get a large enough majority so that the others won't matter.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
2. First of all, they won't admit it.
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:26 PM
May 2018

They just won't.

Second, isn't it clear that the Republican leadership and Trump are on the same page? Isn't it pretty obvious by now that Ryan and McConnell and the whole lot of the are just as knowingly dependent on dirty Russian money and ratfucking as Trump is?

Ultimately, it's going to be state prosecutors, elections run at the state level, and pressure from foreign governments that bring the Trump edifice down. Mueller will do his part, but the idea that the Republicans will become so revolted by Trump that they'll abandon him en masse left the building a while ago.

Voltaire2

(13,014 posts)
5. Perhaps nothing.
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:30 PM
May 2018

Federal indictments would end up in the Supreme Court- where they could rule that Trump can defer criminal proceedings until his term expires. It is unlikely that a trial would proceed while he is in office.

Impeachment is vanishingly unlikely with the current House, and conviction unlikely in this or the next Senate.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
6. I don't think 45's surrogates will admit to anything.
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:35 PM
May 2018

They exist in a parallel reality where 45 is their Sun God. Look at how effectively they’re pushing back now. Most Republican senators and representatives have now finally thrown in with 45. And the rule of law in our government has been so devalued by Republicans that they aren’t even interested in keeping up appearances anymore.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
7. Since Trump is not POTUS but a Russian agent/asset conspiring with Russia
Thu May 10, 2018, 05:54 PM
May 2018

to overthrow the US govt, my guess is he will be indicted and arrested and incarcerated pending trial for treason and other federal crimes.

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Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. He could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue
Thu May 10, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018

And Republicans wouldn’t do shit about it. They’d rather lose their control of Congress than lose their jobs in Congress, and common Trumpsters don’t give a shit about anything at all except sticking it to “the libtards.”

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
10. If such a thing happens, he may not even be president by then
Thu May 10, 2018, 06:49 PM
May 2018

It’s been 2 years already and nothing.

May be his term would Already be over.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
11. I still think a lot of Trump sycophants will fall,
Thu May 10, 2018, 06:58 PM
May 2018

but Trump himself may escape liability.
He's such an idiot the people around him probably don't tell him anything. They just try to use him and his wealth.
And even if we do take the Senate, it still takes 67 Senators to convict, and that is unlikely to happen without some pretty dramatic revelations (which could happen!).

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