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Cindy McCain responds to White House scumbag via Twitter. (Original Post) RandySF May 2018 OP
republican infighting always welcome AlexSFCA May 2018 #1
Really. Cha May 2018 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #10
The RW is pushing that story now radical noodle May 2018 #12
Did you miss the word "allegedly" in my post? TheDebbieDee May 2018 #14
No,No,No!!! SCVDem May 2018 #16
If you'd like I have an article that carries all the details of the events in question. I'm busy... rwsanders May 2018 #22
That's not true radical noodle May 2018 #24
It was well documented. Why are you so sensitive about it? rwsanders May 2018 #34
I followed the link radical noodle May 2018 #35
Fair enough rwsanders May 2018 #36
I seem to remember her husband saying that he was voting for the Con malaise May 2018 #2
I always liked Cindy. elfin May 2018 #3
Me too. n/t Upthevibe May 2018 #18
His wife told him to choose Palin as a running mate onetexan May 2018 #28
Have been trying to substantiate this, but can't elfin May 2018 #32
i recall having heard it on the news that he said she had advised him to go with Palin onetexan May 2018 #33
Good for Cindy! Raine May 2018 #4
Anyone who thinks there's no difference between the parties EffieBlack May 2018 #6
The backstory here seems interesting. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #7
I think it has to do with the article posted in this thread csziggy May 2018 #8
The back story here is . . . Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #9
When a trump supporter praises trump because "he tells it like it is", calimary May 2018 #19
Don't miss this point, either gratuitous May 2018 #25
They don't care. LudwigPastorius May 2018 #11
McCain will always be a better American than Trump. IluvPitties May 2018 #13
You need to throw down that mic!!! LakeArenal May 2018 #15
Yep...n/t Upthevibe May 2018 #17
most anyone is a better american than trump AlexSFCA May 2018 #20
cons have a long history of making fun of vets elmac May 2018 #21
Max Cleland comes to mind. luvallpeeps May 2018 #26
Dear Meghan : Might THIS finally be the thing that opens your fucking eyes, bullwinkle428 May 2018 #23
unlikely. Cindy McCain is a far better person than Meghan JI7 May 2018 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #29
Welcome to DU RandySF May 2018 #30
Wish him and his family well during this time, duforsure May 2018 #31

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
1. republican infighting always welcome
Thu May 10, 2018, 08:10 PM
May 2018

the single biggest achievement of mccain’s life was losing to Obama. And for that I am grateful.

Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #1)

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
12. The RW is pushing that story now
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:51 PM
May 2018

so I looked it up. Politifact says he did no such thing.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/07/blog-posting/posts-blame-john-mccain-deadly-1967-fire-aboard-us/

Don't get me wrong, I'm no big fan of McCain's, but he's dying and he doesn't deserve blame for that fire. As for Sarah Palin, he's totally guilty of that one!

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
22. If you'd like I have an article that carries all the details of the events in question. I'm busy...
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:58 PM
May 2018

but you can shoot me an e-mail. The short version is that there was a fire on the flight deck and while everyone else was running toward it, McCain was doing the John Cleese run in the other direction.
And there are questions about his actual combat skills. But then, like the shrub, he was trying to live up to the deeds of his father and grandfather if I remember correctly.

rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
34. It was well documented. Why are you so sensitive about it?
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:47 PM
May 2018

I didn't say he caused it. Just didn't help fight the fire.
Can't find the article, but this one is enough to make anyone question his character:
http://www.nationinstitute.org/p/schanberg09182008pt1

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
35. I followed the link
Sat May 12, 2018, 12:28 AM
May 2018

but it said "page not found."

BTW, I have found no neutral news sources that fault him for his actions there. The Swift Boaters did this to John Kerry and someone is trying to get McCain in the same way... and it's primarily trumpsters who are doing it. The guy is dying, and if he did anything he shouldn't have, sure... go ahead and beat him up if you want... but I have still seen nothing to make me think he did anything (or failed to do anything).

I think this is likely as close to the truth as we can get after all this time:
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/07/blog-posting/posts-blame-john-mccain-deadly-1967-fire-aboard-us/
If you read it, you will see that he was injured (burns and shrapnel wounds to his legs and chest). He helped to toss some bombs overboard before he went to have his wounds treated. He never claimed to have done more than that. Apparently, there was little or no training in firefighting and all were terribly unprepared. It just doesn't sound like he should be bashed for this. We hated what they did to John Kerry and we shouldn't do it to McCain. Especially now.

As I said before, I am not a supporter of McCain at all, but I don't believe in pushing crap that's not true. If it is proven to be true, I'll acknowledge it.


rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
36. Fair enough
Mon May 14, 2018, 08:24 PM
May 2018

Hmmm. Link is gone, but the article was picked up by "The American Conservative", doesn't do a lot for its credibility.
Basically Nixon's secret negotiations with Vietnam included a war reparations for prisoners component. When Nixon didn't come through about 1750 men were left behind. THe article claims McCain knows.

malaise

(268,856 posts)
2. I seem to remember her husband saying that he was voting for the Con
Thu May 10, 2018, 08:12 PM
May 2018

because he's a ReTHUG/

As you make your bed so shall you lie.
'Roach nah business in fowl fight'.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
3. I always liked Cindy.
Thu May 10, 2018, 08:21 PM
May 2018

She has more substance than most Repug spouses. He probably married her for her money, but she is a good person. I remember making fun of her "prom dress" expensive wear during one of their appearances, but now regret that.

I did not vote for him. Hated whatever propelled him to choose Moosilla, disagreed with his stances, but liked Cindy.

I really hope she takes his place in the Senate for the short term, if need be, rather than Meghan.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
32. Have been trying to substantiate this, but can't
Fri May 11, 2018, 10:07 AM
May 2018

Reading past articles on the choice of Moosilla - seems everyone's name involved in pushing her except Cindy's. Mostly after that Alaska cruise (not attenede by the McCains) where she made herself known to Repug. bigwigs, who then began raving about her on various right wing media. It grew from there.

Maybe you have a source for that?

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
33. i recall having heard it on the news that he said she had advised him to go with Palin
Fri May 11, 2018, 04:52 PM
May 2018

Don't have time now but i w/ see if i can search it on the net later and post.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
6. Anyone who thinks there's no difference between the parties
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:07 PM
May 2018

need only read the comments to this tweet and imagine how Republicans would respond if this were the wife of a dying Democrat.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
9. The back story here is . . .
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:23 PM
May 2018

White House special assistant to the snizzwad in the Oval Office, Kelly Sadler, said about McCain's vote in opposition to Gina Haspel to head the CIA: "It doesn't matter. He's dying anyway."

Just another repulsive piece of republican pond snot.

The level of incivility from this WH just never ends. If democrats had said this about him, the outrage would jolt the Richter scale to 9.9

calimary

(81,189 posts)
19. When a trump supporter praises trump because "he tells it like it is",
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:34 PM
May 2018

is said trump supporter talking about sheer loutish insensitive rude thoughtless condescending jackassery as a crack like “it doesn’t matter, he’s dying anyway”?

And they wonder why they’re called “deplorables”.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Don't miss this point, either
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:02 AM
May 2018

Sadler's jerk-ass comment was in a closed, private meeting at the White House. Apparently, nobody in the meeting laughed. But somebody got to a friendly reporter to tell all about it. Isn't that lovely evidence of just how esteemed Sadler is among his peers?

LudwigPastorius

(9,127 posts)
11. They don't care.
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:47 PM
May 2018

The acolytes of Trump have no sense of right and wrong.

They know that Trump is scum and they worship him anyway.

These people working in the White House aren't just like the "good Germans" who acquiesced and enabled a depraved madman 75 years ago. They are like the ones who strapped on the uniform and died trying to advance his dream of genocide and world domination.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
13. McCain will always be a better American than Trump.
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:11 PM
May 2018

And Obama will always be a better human being than both.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
21. cons have a long history of making fun of vets
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:45 PM
May 2018

kerry's purple heart, mccains prison, yet 2 out of 3 vets for the cons.

luvallpeeps

(935 posts)
26. Max Cleland comes to mind.
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:26 AM
May 2018

When republicans scream "support the troops",what they actually mean is support the latest war.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
23. Dear Meghan : Might THIS finally be the thing that opens your fucking eyes,
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:58 PM
May 2018

and get you to reconsider your position of constantly defending these monsters?

Response to RandySF (Original post)

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
31. Wish him and his family well during this time,
Fri May 11, 2018, 05:14 AM
May 2018

But he's partly the reason why we're in the position we're in now because of his nomination of Palin, and it's gotten worse, and if rump isn't stopped and made an example of, the next rump will be much worse, and even more cruel to others. John McCain saved health care for millions by his vote, and that alone is worth a great deal of thanks. He even regrets palin , so i even forgive him for that now also. He would have never had her on the ticket if he had known what she was going to do. He also served bravely in the service when many others critical of him didn't. Getting captured and tortured he bravely endured the worse of what could have happened to him , and he still was successful afterwards. John McCain deserves respect and admiration because he's earned it for his service to this country, again unlike many who are now cowardly critical of him when his illness worsens. I may not like or agree with some of his policies, but at least he served his country first instead of paying his way out of serving with dr. excuses like many others have done putting themselves first over and over again.

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