Seriously.

[sheshe2]

Why is it being said over and over that we need to cajole, bend a knee and beg and pray, coddle, nurture, educate and basically lead these recalcitrant voters to the booth to vote? Why is it being said that we need them more than our base of black voters? Why are we being asked to put money and resources in a group that will NEVER vote for a Democrat?

Remember the image of a woman trump supporter with the hand painted message? It said grab my...with an arrow pointing downward. She had a smile of gleeful ignorance on her face and seemed more than happy to be there.

Why do we need to hold their hand to lead them to vote for their best interests? They will never vote for us and we have no need to cater to them. I say go after our base and I know our base ticks people off. Why?

Because they are black.

Power. They are the ones.

[samnsara]

1. they arent worth my time

[stonecutter357]

2. K&R !

[Amaryllis]

3. There are plenty of people who would vote if not for voter ID laws, voter suppression,

etc. If everyone who wanted to vote could, outcomes would be very different.

[fierywoman]

4. And then there's the ca. 42% who didn't vote in the last election.

[madaboutharry]

5. That lady with the painted tee shirt

that said “Trump can grab my (arrow pointing to her vagina)” actually made me sad and depressed. It made me sad for her because I try to have empathy for anyone who is a colossal ignoramus. And it made me depressed because these voters are forever lost. You are 100% right sheshe2. We need to focus on our own base.

[smirkymonkey]

6. I agree sheshe2.

Fuck them. They aren't worth our time.

That woman you mentioned especially made me sick. People like her are hopeless. They are the scum of the earth and they will never change.

Watch what happens when they piss enough people off. That will wipe the smirks off their faces.

[sheshe2]

7. No, sadly they are not worth our time, smirky.

I am heartbroken that there are women like her. Far to many. It is 2018 and this is who they are. They take women's rights back decades. We fought for our freedoms and a right to vote for eons. She makes me feel dirty.

[sunRISEnow]

8. From experience, if they see nothing wrong right now, anything else is a waste of time.

If one is still a Trump supporter, no blinder they will be.

[sheshe2]

9. Boom.

Welcome to DU.

[sunRISEnow]

10. Thank you.

[sheshe2]

13. You are welcome.

[Me.]

11. The Short Answer Is ...We Don't

It's a waste of time, money, hope, faith and trust.

[sheshe2]

14. Correct.

Thank you, Me.

[Me.]

15. ...

[keithbvadu2]

12. Donald still has some good Christian women supporters

Donald still has some good Christian women supporters

[EffieBlack]

19. She doesn't even realize that Trump wouldn't to grab her anything.

He’d just laugh at her and call her a pig and a loser.

These people are pathetic.

[Decoy of Fenris]

26. Yig. Put a warning on that. n/t

[eleny]

16. Better to spend dollars and shoe leather on Dem candidates of our choice

[dreamland]

17. We don't need to waste our time or energy

These people will never listen because to them politics is like a sport, where their team will always be their team. It's not about policies or interests, it about team DEM or team GOP, and quite unfortunately most of these folks are not educated enough to seek out the truth. Dumb is dumb, you can't change dumb. The problem with our base, is that we are sometimes a little too smart. Appearing too intelligent does not allow us to connect with each other, it's like listening to your parents who always proclaim to be right just "because". We exert authority with our so-call knowledge and that doesn't work. But I agreed, we need to do a better job of connecting.

[EffieBlack]

18. Preach, SheShe!

This needs to be heard.

“Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable”

[lunamagica]

20. K&R! Spot on, Sheshe

[secondwind]

21. K&R for our brothers and sisters!

[betsuni]

22. I just saw the original "Planet of the Apes" movie on teevee.

The end, where Charlton Heston realizes he's back on earth and his people have destroyed the planet with nuclear war, freaked me out more than usual. Scary!

[sheshe2]

24. I can understand completely, Betsuni.

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Oh wow -

I saw it for the first time on Sunday this week - we watched the whole series because I LOVE the new series of movies.

I never got as a kid why my parents always wanted to watch those movies when they came on the old UHF channel. I tuned out.

They were massive social statements. Massive. And yes - watching it was chilling.

[Orsino]

23. Because we only need to peel off a few of them.

Undermine their enthusiasm for an agenda that is killing them, too, and convert a handful to voting Democratic, and we don't need to worry much about the diehards and performatives.

And Trump himself is doing a lot of the heavy lifting.

[Decoy of Fenris]

25. Because if it came down to "black vs. white", we'd only get 13% of the vote to their 73%.

As it stands, that vote is already about as nailed down as it will get; 60-62% voting rate is damned good. We can chase the other 40%, or we can go for a chunk of peel on that 70% white number.

I'm not disputing or arguing with what you said, we should cater to the needs of AA and other minority groups as a matter of course, but the blunt fact is just numbers; far more whites than blacks, and black voters are already pretty solidly on our side. Even if we somehow managed 100% black turnout in our favor, that's not nearly enough to win an election.

You can't argue with math.

[Tom Rinaldo]

27. If you can know with certainty which ones will "never vote for a Democrat", you are right

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Well, in regards to attempts to "educate" them anyway. But I don't see a lot of praying, begging and knee bending going on in the direction of any hard core Trump voters in any case by anyone. Another thing I don't see being said by anyone is that we need "educable" Trump voters more than our base black voters. I do however often see it said that we need to win enough Congressional elections to win back the House and Senate from Republicans.

Conor Lamb won his special Congressional Election in PA by 1 or 2%. Trump won that district by about 21%. How do you feel about that Congressional race result and how Lamb went about obtaining it?

[Gothmog]

28. Trump supporters are idiots and racists