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First look: Mueller gains credibility among swing voters (Original Post) spanone May 2018 OP
Ok Iliyah May 2018 #1
Who are the Dems who trust Trump? IluvPitties May 2018 #2
15.6% - Amazing, stunning. RKP5637 May 2018 #3
I think there are some people who will respect the president whoever he or she is. mucifer May 2018 #6
Makes sense! Something like the Stockholm Syndrome, sort of. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #7
WTF? Fake Dems? Dems in caves? lagomorph777 May 2018 #10
Half of them likely voted for Trump. progressoid May 2018 #11
They are probably Susan Sarandon fans also Dopers_Greed May 2018 #17
This proves Rs are really dumb ProudLib72 May 2018 #4
Get thee to the greatest page malaise May 2018 #5
Trump honest... BlueJac May 2018 #8
....and trustworthy!!!!! spanone May 2018 #9
This just boggles the mind genxlib May 2018 #12
Disloyalty as falsehood MikeIsInProcess May 2018 #22
The whole of the polling sounds a lot slanted to me nolabels May 2018 #13
The Other Odd Thing I Noted. . . ProfessorGAC May 2018 #19
Okay, who exactly are the 15.6 percent? HopeAgain May 2018 #14
repukes are so damn stupid ailsagirl May 2018 #15
That top category is mind-blowing! BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #16
Huh? DownriverDem May 2018 #20
Stick with issues DownriverDem May 2018 #18
They're DINOs. They self-identfy as Democrats, but voted for Twitler, Sanders or Stein. Texin May 2018 #21

mucifer

(23,533 posts)
6. I think there are some people who will respect the president whoever he or she is.
Fri May 11, 2018, 10:06 AM
May 2018

Kind of a blind loyalty thing from zealot patriotism.

That's my theory anyway.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. This proves Rs are really dumb
Fri May 11, 2018, 09:54 AM
May 2018

Now if Mueller started tweeting about "fake president" I might worry. But he isn't.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
12. This just boggles the mind
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:33 AM
May 2018

Regardless of how you feel about Trump, what had Mueller ever done to lose any trust.

He has done nothing other than serve our Country in multiple ways. He was asked to come out of retirement and has done not a single thing to earn any mistrust. Even if you trusted Trump, there would be no reason to trust him more than Mueller.

It just goes to show how effective a smear campaign can be when you can get a coordinated multi-pronged effort.

I would add that the responses only add up to about 75%. Which probably means that 25% didn't know or have any opinion. I reserve a special kind of disdain for those people. How could you not have an opinion at this point?

MikeIsInProcess

(23 posts)
22. Disloyalty as falsehood
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:51 PM
May 2018

It makes perfect sense.

In the authoritarian mind, disloyalty is falsehood (and Mueller is seen as being disloyal to the authority).

Common example, Cheat-o complains all the time about “fake news” when he clearly means “disloyal news”. He uses loyalty as a truth standard (it isn’t). The pattern fits.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
13. The whole of the polling sounds a lot slanted to me
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:35 AM
May 2018

And that was even before going to the link to read this

(snip)

Firehouse Strategies, a Republican firm, partnered with the data analytics team at Optimus to interview 2,486 likely midterm voters in four swing states (Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin), and found that "the Mueller investigation is gaining credibility among independent voters."

(snip)

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
19. The Other Odd Thing I Noted. . .
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:13 PM
May 2018

. . .was that all the "It" or Mueller responses only add up into the 70's. What happened with the other 75%? They don't trust anybody? They trust everybody equally?

Even without knowing the methodology, it's a really rotten way to present the findings.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
14. Okay, who exactly are the 15.6 percent?
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:36 AM
May 2018

These polls crack me up. Anyone who truly identifies with the Democratic Party in any way would not trust Trump more than Mueller. They need a category for "former" or "registered as, but not really."

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
16. That top category is mind-blowing!
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:51 AM
May 2018

RM has perhaps the best reputation I have ever encountered in the US govt. That those who see Pee Diddle as having more credibility outnumber those not huffing paint by 4-1 is staggering.

The other numbers are still appalling, but at least the sane and aware outnumber the opposites.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
20. Huh?
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:15 PM
May 2018

The current repubs put party before country. I don't understand the rest of your comment about the other numbers still being appalling.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
18. Stick with issues
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:13 PM
May 2018

and we could win a lot. Let impeachment go. It motivates the trump supporters too much.

Texin

(2,595 posts)
21. They're DINOs. They self-identfy as Democrats, but voted for Twitler, Sanders or Stein.
Fri May 11, 2018, 12:43 PM
May 2018

Of those that voted for Twitler, they're low information voters (or don't bother to vote anyway). I don't for a second buy into the notion that POTUS should be afforded respectability if he's doing his dead-level best to circle the bottom of the cesspool every single day. With tRump, it's a race to the bottom 24/7 365.

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