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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sat May 12, 2018, 07:17 AM May 2018

Did you ever wonder who "The Agony of Defeat" guy was at the beginning of Wide World of Sports?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinko_Bogataj

Vinko Bogataj (Slovenian: /ˈʋiːŋko bɔɡaˈtaj/; born 1948) is a Slovenian former ski jumper. Footage of him crashing featured on ABC's Wide World of Sports representing the Agony of Defeat.

Agony of Defeat jump
Bogataj competed as a Yugoslav entrant at the ski flying event in Oberstdorf, West Germany (now Germany) on 7 March 1970. A light snow had begun falling at the start of the competition, and by the time Bogataj was ready for his third jump on the Heini Klopfer hill, the snow had become quite heavy. Midway down the inrun for his jump, Bogataj realised that the conditions had made the ramp too fast. He attempted to lower his center of gravity and stop his jump, but instead lost his balance completely and rocketed out of control off the end of the inrun, tumbling and flipping wildly, and crashing through a light retaining fence near a crowd of spectators before coming to a halt. Bogataj suffered a mild concussion and a broken ankle.

A film crew from Wide World of Sports was recording the event in which Bogataj crashed. The show featured an opening narration by host Jim McKay over a montage of sports clips, and co-ordinating producer Dennis Lewin inserted the footage of the crash to coincide with the words "...and the agony of defeat." Throughout the show's long history, various images were used for the other parts of the narration, including for "the thrill of victory...", which directly preceded the above phrase and was often accompanied by images of the celebrating team at the most recent Super Bowl or World Cup, but after that point, the "agony of defeat" was always illustrated by Bogataj's failed jump. Later on, other clips were added to the "agony of defeat", but Bogataj's crash was always featured and always the first played.

The melodrama of the narration—which became a catchphrase in the US—transformed the uncredited ski jumper into an American icon of bad luck and misfortune. Meanwhile, having retired to his quiet, private life in Slovenia, Bogataj was unaware of his celebrity, and so was surprised to be asked to attend the 20th anniversary celebration for Wide World of Sports in 1981. He received the loudest ovation of any athlete introduced at the gala, and attendees such as Muhammad Ali asked him for his autograph.

Later life
Bogataj returned to ski jumping in 1971 but never duplicated the success he had before the crash and retired from the sport competitively, save for occasional senior competitions thereafter. During his career, his best career finish was 57th in the individual normal hill competition in Bischofshofen in 1969 during that year's Four Hills Tournament.

Bogataj became a ski instructor, coaching the 1991 World Champion Slovenian ski jumper Franci Petek. He supplements his income by painting and has also worked as a forklift operator at a factory, Veriga Lesce. His paintings have won awards and been exhibited in both Europe and the U.S. He also enjoys wood carving.

Bogataj resides in his hometown of Lesce, Slovenia. He is married and has two daughters.


Every weekend, that was a cringe-worthy thing to see...
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Did you ever wonder who "The Agony of Defeat" guy was at the beginning of Wide World of Sports? (Original Post) Dennis Donovan May 2018 OP
Isn't it weird how we can remember every note Codeine May 2018 #1
Drinking coffee this am, *something* made me think of the term "agony of defeat" Dennis Donovan May 2018 #5
hmm... bdamomma May 2018 #2
I remember that vividly, too! Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #3
Haha! Love that cartoon! Dennis Donovan May 2018 #4
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
1. Isn't it weird how we can remember every note
Sat May 12, 2018, 07:38 AM
May 2018

of that theme, and the exact cadence of the voice-over so many decades later? Meanwhile I had to check my phone to make sure it was Saturday and I wasn’t late for work.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
5. Drinking coffee this am, *something* made me think of the term "agony of defeat"
Sat May 12, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018

Not sure what or why, but the phrase sent me to Google - who WAS that poor man in the intro of ABC's WWS? Wikipedia laid it out. One of my life's mysteries resolved by Al Gore's invention.

Rhiannon12866

(204,485 posts)
3. I remember that vividly, too!
Sat May 12, 2018, 07:49 AM
May 2018

And I don't think I watched very often! But this is an American TV sports icon!


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