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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor the 2nd day in a row I was visited by Mormon missionaries.
Is the Mormon church pro Trump?
lapfog_1
(29,192 posts)not so happy with Trump... they would much rather have Mittens.
Kingofalldems
(38,422 posts)I then bade them good bye.
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)But are also anti having sex with prostitutes and violating every one of the 7deadly sins, so I guess they have mixed feelings like any Christian must who supports Trump.
TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)Ask Zarathustra to bless them, give a pint of fresh goat's blood & send them on their way!
hatrack
(59,578 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)TomSlick
(11,088 posts)I tell Mormon missionaries that there were kin in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. I usually have to explain to the young guys what that was (strangely enough they apparently don't talk about the Massacre in BYU), and then ask how Brighman Young could authorize murder.
That usually saves me until the next years' group.
jeffreyi
(1,938 posts)Until they acknowledge this, and make amends, I have no use for them.
shanti
(21,675 posts)is directly related to one of the perps in the Mountain Massacre. Sure was..
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)They seemed genuinely shocked.
They commented that they didn't know of any Atheists in this area.
There have been no return visits.
Hamlette
(15,408 posts)I'm a third generation atheist. When I was in grade school, my Mormon friends liked to take me to "primary" (an weekday afternoon class for young Mormons) and Sunday school. The first thing I was asked by the leader/teacher was "Are you Mormon?" then "What church to do you go to?" When I told them no church because I'm and atheist they did not know what to say. They were shocked and confused and it apparently disrupted the class enough that my Mormon friends loved it.
It grew old quickly. I only did it a few times. By the time I got to middle school/junior high I was too bored by it all. By High School I no longer hung out with Mormons.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)But the like Democrats less.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)dflprincess
(28,072 posts)My niece and her family are talking about a Disney & Universal trip next winter and we make her husband nuts because every time it comes up we both sing "Orlandooooo".
oberliner
(58,724 posts)dflprincess
(28,072 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)dflprincess
(28,072 posts)If you get a chance, see the musical. It's wonderful & funny. I've seen it four times & hope to see it again when it's in town next fall.
Delmette2.0
(4,157 posts)They don't know that book, but it was one of the small stepping stones to my atheism.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Mitt Romney supporters ? Not so much.
Orrin Hatch supporters ? Oh, yeah.
bdjhawk
(420 posts)and ask if they do, as well. They usually move on after trying to say men and women are equal but with "different responsibilities". Ick!
Even if they hate tRump, they,like the rest of the evangelicals, are glad to support anyone who crushes womens rights, minority rights, separation of church and state, public schools, etc.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I had a Mormon friend in HS. Nice kid. Never tried any indoctrination crap on me. A year after graduation, I called up to talk to him and was informed by his family that he was out doing missionary work. Honestly, I felt sorry for him.
Hekate
(90,558 posts)...they not only get to see the world, but they have to learn a foreign language. They gain sales skills from trying to convert people. They have an opportunity to mature away from Mom and Dad.
Looking at the mission experience non-religiously, you can see how young men are being fitted for any number of lucrative careers as adults. I wonder how many end up in government service where language skills are a big plus?
I'm not Mormon -- far from it -- and as a woman I am very glad my parents were not. It's the kind of culture where you can be happy as long as you think and act like the majority, but if you deviate significantly in your thoughts or behavior, life will become very painful.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Former missionary here who firmly disagrees with the above.
Hekate
(90,558 posts)I'll take your word for it.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)If they don't have well-to-do parents, they're often doing fundraisers and holding down jobs to pay for it.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)to get two visits in a row. Surely you are sinned out for this month, so tread easy.
Did you ask them if they had on their magic underwear?.......
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Hekate
(90,558 posts)...come calling: Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and Hasidic Jews. I really don't want any fruitless discussions, and they are all so earnest I hate to be rude.
But back in college I learned that allowing anything past "Good morning" meant I was going to be late for work, so I settled on simultaneously shutting the door and saying "Go in peace."
With the Hasids I had to allow a little more conversation because it was my husband's soul they were after, not mine, and they had known my late father in law. I promised to pass along the message. Ultimately we moved away, though.
Strangers who tell me to "have a blessed day" hear "Blessed Be" in return, and I do hope someday they figure out they've just gotten a Pagan/Wiccan blessing for their troubles. Bwahaha.
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)...with that said, the leadership is between a rock in a hard place. They got involved in politics...which worked for their advantage initially...but now it's coming to bite them in the ass. Doesn't help the leadership is anchored to the ideology, etc. when Mormonism was founded...long story short, their business model is failing.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)A few of us are Democrats. I only know of 1 person in my family that voted for Trump (current count is 22 Hillary, one obstain and 1 Trump). The one that did vote for him is firmly against Trump now.
Very family is different I suspect, but in my experience most Mormons dont like him.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Better yet, ask them to show you their magic temple underwear
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment
leftyladyfrommo
(18,865 posts)Last edited Sun May 13, 2018, 10:58 AM - Edit history (1)
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)are to be worn to keep the Indians away,this was one of Brigham Young's rulings.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,865 posts)All your clothes have to cover them up.
A lot of women roll them up to keep them from showing. I always thought they must be warm in summer.
And I heard that you could never take them completely off even to bathe. That would make showering awkward.
Hadn't heard about the Indians.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)As the Comedian says,got a million of them. Indian thing comes from a Book written about the origin of the Magic Garments. Found a reference also in a Book Penned by the Scribe of a US Army Detail assigned to escort one of Young's first Wagon Trains .
Mormon Radar=Ex Mormon's detecting Mormon's.
Tell tail evidence of Magic Underwear are the fold lines on Jeans or snug fitting clothing.
Tell tail evidence of Magic Underwear is,the layered look and no strap type of tops or short shorts.
Got a ton of them.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,865 posts)I went to 2 years high school and then to U of U.
What I find interesting is how .Mormon people can compartmentalize their religion. I had wonderful Anthropology professors that were Mormon. Did not seem to bother them a bit.
I knew lots of wonderful Mormons. Most of them were not Temple Mormons.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Lived on the South Border,they did not call it Dixie for nothing. Talk about backassward. Mostly Temple Mormons. ,
And that is another book of jokes.
Find my neighbors in Mesquite on Friday and Saturday nights,free drinks at the Casino's,pre 2008 housing crash,half hour home on Sunday for ten o'clock meetings.
And that is another book of jokes.
lame54
(35,262 posts)You'll never get rid of them
dsc
(52,152 posts)a state that Romney won by 40%. Many Mormons to their credit actually did desert Trump (in part over immigration and in part over his attacks on a minority religion).
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