What Are These People Thinking !!! ??? !!!

[Civic Justice]

Trump voters stay loyal because they feel disrespected


Are they blocking their ears and their minds? America has never had a criminal like this in the Presidency, not has it ever had an whole administration who has so many foreign adversarial ties.

Geez.... they disrespect themselves and this nation in their blind support of a criminal, swindler, who had no sense of presidential decorum to respect departments and divisions within and of our government, and has threatened congresspersons, if they don't back him and attacked individual citizens, businesses and incessantly attacks the press. Do these people have any idea they are backing an aspiring wanna be Dictator.

The level of ignorance that has swept across this nation is among the greatest Atrocities of this Early Segment of the 21st Century.
America has known vile before, in the former Racist that Occupied the Presidency, but what they have not known is a President who panders to a Foreign Adversary.
American has never known a President who has attacked the United Nations, and NATO and worked to distance us from our closest allies. Never had America had a President who continues to work on Russia's Agenda to the degree and level Trump and His Administration has done.

Never has America had a President to attack our Legal System and Attack the Justice Department, and Insult and Denigrate our Intelligence Agencies.

There is NOTHING in and about America this man has not attacked and sought to denigrate !!!!!! A man who is a historical tax cheat, his daddy was a tax cheat and a bigoted racist, he has swindled bank after bank and is propped up by Russian Money, and the list just goes on and on and on and on...............

Trump gave them exactly what LBJ said would make fools of many, when LBJ said:

President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Trump gave them Muslims and Mexicans to look down upon and to sweeten the deal he offered, he gave them a renewed sense to promote racism against blacks

He gave them a sense of being "Serf's" who is expected to be protected by their Wealthy White Master, and again, these same types fell for it .... as they have done over and over and over during the course of centuries and decades.

This person will accept anything:

"One older white working-class woman recalled that, when she first started voting, “There was so much respect for the president. And I don't care what he did, or what he said, there was always respect. It was always ‘Mr. President.’” She said she is disgusted by the way people talk about Trump."

The professional Left focuses heavily on race-related questions in analyzing the Trump vote, but race-tinged subjects were rarely cited by Trump voters interviewed for this book.”

Are these people crazy or just develop selective amnesia every 30 minutes... ALL OF AMERICA AND THE WORLD, saw the racist bigots at the Trump Rally's... and ALL OF AMERICA AND THE WORLD continue to see the escalation of racist acts and racist crimes by Trump followers and the generalized Right Winger in society.
ALL OF AMERICA AND THE WORLD see the blind eye the White Evangelical's have demonstrated with all the vile, bigotry and bias that Trump spews daily in his continual belligerent manner and tone. And they back and support every bit of it!!!!

It's time to put America above any One Man!!!!!!!!!!!!

[asiliveandbreathe]

1. At least someone is speaking out on the atrocities of current events..sometimes I

feel like I am alone on an island..no one is paying attention....will saner minds please step up - and reverse the damage before it is too late...IMHO....

And friends and relatives wonder why "I" have turned away from any faith...if this is faith -

White Evangelical's have demonstrated with all the vile, bigotry and bias

- I want NOTHING to do with it....

[unblock]

2. one of the frustrating things about bigotry is that it's often invisible to those it has infected

i'd say the vast majority of bigots think they're not bigots.

they just don't experience it as "hate", and there's always someone they can point to who's more extreme, so they can say, well, i'm not *that*.

mostly they've just been brainwashed to the point where they think their views are just "right" and "normal". so how can it be associated with this negative word "bigotry"?


many slavers in in the south used to think they were properly respectful of black people, feeding them, housing them, and treating them with "dignity", because they all knew someone else who treated their slaves even worth. moreover, the slavers felt that slavery was a black person's proper station in life, so the idea that enslavement itself was an insult to a black person's dignity simply didn't compute for them.


it's astounding the depths of depravity people can sink if sufficiently brainwashed.

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. If we see them as Cartman from South Park, I think that gets us most of the way to what they're

"thinking". Though I don't think Cartman is quite as bigoted as them.

[Initech]

9. I often read Trump's tweets in Cartman's voice.

It can help make them more funny and seem slightly less crazy!

[CousinIT]

4. Really. Republicans want from others what they're NOT willing to give to others: RESPECT

They have proven time and time again that they CANNOT respect anyone who is different than their ideal: white, male, christian, heterosexual.

They have a TERM they use in derogatory fashion for what it means to RESPECT those different than themselves. They call it being "Politically correct". They PRIDE themselves on NOT being "politically correct" ie: on NOT RESPECTING anyone different than themselves. YET......they want all those people whom they virulently disrespect to respect THEM? Oh no. That's NOT how this works. Has anyone told them? Respect is EARNED and reciprocal. That means to garner respect they SO crave, they'd have to learn to RESPECT:

WOMEN (ALL of them, even those who have sex and are *gasp!* human and thus get abortions and use birth control)
People of different religions than Republicans (Muslims, for instance)
LGBTQ people
People who are NOT white and/or whom are from other countries

WHEN Republicans can SHOW THEY RESPECT others unlike themselves (ie: be "politically correct" to use their term), then and ONLY THEN will they receive respect from others unlike themselves. All that said, Republicans should know that they are a MINORITY. White men are a MINORITY. They are a MINORITY which have always and still demand that others demur to them BECAUSE they are white and male. POWER OVER others is their Number One concern. I'm sorry but THAT does not deserve respect.

Everyone reading this should know that NPR has in the past few weeks featured a LOT of "alt-right" and Republican guests on its various programs. I've been listening to Andrew Pudzer on @1a and several other guests touting their Republican economic and social ideologies.

I've heard more than one black female guest talking about Trump's war on the poor, elderly, and disabled and how that's really just OK for some reason. But HERE is the REAL reason #NPR, that Trump won spelt out in a thread of tweets by a very aware young man...... and I'm warning you it's NOT pretty thing to read. But DO READ IT, @NPR and perhaps feature THIS point of view on your various programs next week because it's important for America to know what it's up against:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/989375059121901568.html

1. Donald Trump won the GOP primary and the presidency because campaigning on whiteness-first messaging still has potency in the 21st century. Plenty of people don’t want to directly engage with this fact, but this thread will be getting into it in full.
2. All too often I see the framing that “Hillary lost to the worst candidate in history.” But I think this framing has always been wrong, and it allows people to bypass a question that they don’t want to grapple with: why was Trump electorally viable to the degree that he was?
3. Do not construe this as me arguing that Hillary’s campaign didn’t make mistakes, but I want to laser focus on why people voted for Trump, and what that says about where we are as a country.
4. We've seen the excuses for Trump:

“He promised to shake up the establishment.”
“His campaign resonated with those who have been left behind.”
“It’s just so refreshing to hear a candidate speak his mind.”
“Trump voters responded to economic anxiety.”
5. But these theories do not have any explanatory power regarding why the vote broke down the way it did demographically. Only one broad demographic seemed to be receptive to the kind of campaign that Trump ran on: white people. cnn.com/election/2016/…


6. We must be cognizant of what Trump ran on: calling Mexicans rapists, banning Muslim immigration, building a wall to keep undocumented immigrants out, national stop-and-frisk. And he has a track record of questioning the legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate.
7. We know that denial of racism, alongside hostile sexism, predicted a vote for Donald Trump significantly more than other factors like economic dissatisfaction. people.umass.edu/schaffne/schaf…

8. This kind of correlation between racial resentment and the probability of voting for Trump has been observed in other studies. cambridge.org/core/services/…


9. Lack of education predicted support for Trump because of its strong relationship to ethnocentrism, not so much income and occupation. Trump voters thought that a hierarchy that prioritized white people was under attack. Trump helped cement that belief. pnas.org/content/pnas/e…

10. Separate point: perceptions of the economy don’t really determine political preference. Rather, it’s the other way around; political preferences determine economic perceptions. Bearing this in mind… jstor.org/stable/pdf/10.…

11. We’ve seen something analogous under President Obama; racial resentment predicted perception of the economy (note the blue curve). The more racially resentful, the poorer the perception of the economy. washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-ca…


12. So yeah. You see the theme. Of course, it’s not enough to grapple with what the appeal of Trump’s campaign was. We must also be cognizant of the fact that that appeal was propelled to the White House while Trump has demonstrated he's thoroughly unfit.
13. We know Trump’s temperament is horrible, he lacks the qualifications to govern effectively, he doesn’t know the ins and outs of the issues, he has no real desire to learn, he is obsessed with denigrating his opponents and not being humiliated, and he’s a lecher.
14. We can’t just say “Donald Trump won by cultivating bigotry” though because that still leaves some things ambiguous. Donald Trump won because affirming the primacy of whiteness is still an issue of importance to too many white voters.
15. What white supremacy greatly fears is a genuine meritocracy, a society where anyone, regardless of race or gender, can rise according to their talents and diligence.
16. For white supremacy to guard against a trajectory toward meritocracy, this requires everything of merit must be sacrificed, which brings us to a terrifying conclusion: the various ways Trump was unfit for the Presidency were features to his voters, not flaws.
17. Trump won the GOP primary and was propelled to the White House because a swath of white voters wanted to send this message to people of color after 8 years of a Black President who successfully governed: “The worst of us should still be given deference over the best of you.”
18. Furthermore, this entitlement is so profound that many white voters have been willing to sacrifice benefits to their class in exchange for seeing institutions uphold the primacy of whiteness.
19. In W. E. B. Du Bois’s Black Reconstruction in America, he wrote about the psychological wage of whiteness; in exchange for experiencing potentially low economic wages, white people were given a psychological wage in the form of ubiquitous deference.

20. If you find it hard to conceive of people forgoing fiscal wages for the sake of a psychological wage, consider that similar behavior has been observed in non-racial contexts.
21. A Harvard study asked people if they’d rather make $50,000 when everyone else around them makes $25,000 OR if they’d rather make $100,000 when everyone else around them makes $200,000. Fifty percent of respondents opted for the former. albany.edu/~gs149266/Soln…


22. Wild, right? People will opt for a job that pays absolutely less so long as they know they make more relative to everyone else over a job where they make absolutely more but relatively less than everyone else. Because people want to know they’re on top.
23. But if that’s how people behave in non-racial contexts, then it’s actually not a wild leap to conceive of white people forgoing economic benefits so long as they get institutions and politicians upholding white supremacy. They want to know they’re on top.
24. This is actually why many fiscally left-leaning policy positions that we support run into brutal opposition; the real undercurrent is too many white people do not want to share the safety net with anyone else. Then they wouldn't be on top. scholar.harvard.edu/files/glaeser/…

25. Here’s a specific example: we could have had something akin to single-payer during the Truman years. But white southerners opposed it because they feared a national health insurance program would force hospitals to integrate. Seriously.
One Nation, Uninsured
Paul Krugman Op-Ed column says patchwork system that has evolved in absence of national health insurance is unraveling, and time is ripe for another try at universal coverage; says special interests …
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/13/opinion/one-nation-uninsured.html
26. The 60s marked a period of significant success for the Democratic Party and civil rights. It also led to a flight of white southerners from the party and the end of bipartisanship on redistributionist policies. nber.org/papers/w21703.…

27. Reality: This country was founded upon building an economy on top of exploiting Black labor, concentrating wealth produced from that labor in the hands of white people, and deploying all kinds of terrible tactics to ensure that rigid social stratification was upheld.
28. And when that status quo has been challenged, our country has experienced its most significant upheavals. The U.S. fought its bloodiest and most destructive war over whether the enslavement of Black people should continue.
29. Eras of relative stability for the United States, on the other hand, usually relied on people with power tacitly (or explicitly) upholding racial exclusion from democracy.
How Democracies Die
NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER "Cool and persuasive... How Democracies Die comes at exactly the right moment. We're already awash in public indignation--what we desperately need is a sober, dispassionate…
https://books.google.com/books?id=TwtFDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=%22The+norms+sustaining+our+political+system+rested,+to+a+considerable+degree,+on+racial+exclusion.%22&source=bl&ots=BzWIgurS9V&sig=2JXWwYtKVMuHul0hGaKOCdgv_sw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAhuitmMDaAhXo3YMKHf05AqoQ6AEIMzAC#v=onepage&q&f=false

30. As minorities increasingly got to participate in democracy—both in terms of voting and participating in government—we saw a decline in bipartisanship, a trend which effectively exploded when Barack Obama was elected President. This isn't a coincidence.
How democracies die, explained
The problems in American democracy run far deeper than Trump.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16929764/how-democracies-die-trump-book-levitsky-ziblatt

31. The unfortunate truth is Trump is the culmination of a force that has always been here, namely the tendency to undermine and destroy institutions that do not show extraordinary deference to whiteness, and instead, propping up new and regressive systems in their place.
32. The White House did not show extraordinary deference to whiteness for the past eight years because the President was Black, so the institution was undermined by a majority of white people who voted for a man thoroughly unfit to run the institution but promised bigotry.
33. I made this thread because I am sick of the bullshit excuses for voting for Trump as well as the attempts to obfuscate what happened in 2016. Regardless of your opinion of Hillary Clinton, this was my attempt to explain what happened in 2016. Thanks for reading.
34. Now that this thread is getting a lot of attention, I think it's only fair for me to add that many of the observations in this thread conform to what people of color have been saying for years and years. That shouldn't go unacknowledged.

[Civic Justice]

5. Good Commentary !!!!

and this is one among many many very good points within it.

The unfortunate truth is Trump is the culmination of a force that has always been here, namely the tendency to undermine and destroy institutions that do not show extraordinary deference to whiteness, and instead, propping up new and regressive systems in their place.

[CousinIT]

6. Yea the guy who wrote that tweet thread NAILED it.

I bookmarked that one. He's SPOT. ON.

[Civic Justice]

10. Most everything that would move the nation forward as a whole... was/is

impeded and fought against because of the racist elements involved, followed by the added stupidity of bigoted ideology.

from one of the links you posted:

" Harry Truman tried to create a national health insurance system. Public opinion was initially on his side: Jill Quadagno's book "One Nation, Uninsured" tells us that in 1945, 75 percent of Americans favored national health insurance. If Truman had succeeded, universal coverage for everyone, not just the elderly, would today be an accepted part of the social contract.

But Truman failed. Special interests, especially the American Medical Association and Southern politicians who feared that national insurance would lead to racially integrated hospitals, triumphed. "

That's how stupid people have been and some remain as stupid!!!! Many should look back in the history and take note to how the care received from black people to white people even during slavery, and they have the audacity to think and continue to think in segregationist terms. That kind of ignorance has to die out and what remains become stomped out..... because, education seem not to have worked on some, and for other the choice was and is to avoid being and becoming educated.
Its really sick and pathetic that people have chosen to perpetuate this racist ignorance over so many centuries and decades, and the mass of those who back it, are as broke and decrepit as were their ancestry, and still they are blind and unaware to see how their aims of madness in turn equally so continually show they defeat themselves with such ignorance in the overall process. "The best term for that is "Stupidity", which proceeds to produce "Imbeciles".

[winstars]

7. Sorry, I AM disrespectful to these dopes/traitors... Vote in November, while you still can!!!

[procon]

8. I can't get past the dichotomy of Trump voters insisting that they be respected

after electing him. Their main complaint seems to revolve around the idea that since they don't support everything that Trump says and does, then they still deserve to be regarded with appreciation and granted respect. No, it doesn't work that way.

They want to cherry pick the sugary bits and pieces off Trump's flying circus act that appeal to them, and then pretend all the moldy rotten stuff that's oozing all around him doesn't count. Well, it doesn't work that way either.

Lets, throw a couple of old maxims like, Birds of a Feather, and Trump's voters made their own bed, now they can lay in it. They don't deserve any respect for being fools and dupes, and if that stings then they need to be reminded that the rest of are stuck with the after effects of what they did in electing Trump.

[Gothmog]

11. Trump supporters are racist ignorant deplorables

Their feelings are hurt because these idiots do not like being called racists. Having a racist piece of shit like trump as POTUS makes these idiots feel better