Israel and Palestine/Hamas support the slaughter of men, women and children.

[NCTraveler]

There is no argument to the contrary. Whether by way of isolation, starvation, random and targeted missel strikes, or lining up a fourteen year old in a scope and pulling the trigger.

Yes, overwhelmingly the forces with power seem to be just fine slaughtering women and children.

There can be no whitewashing this aspect.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Did you see Rachel's show, I think Joy was subbing and Richard Engel reported

and he said something along the lines of:

"and the ambassador and speakers like Kushner I fear dont understand the geography of this situation"

Something like that, I wish JOY had pointed it out, but Engel is simply saying NOBODY in the rump admin has a CLUE about the situation AT ALL, what they know is rump's base loves to kill brown people, end of story.

[TimeSnowDemos]

2. There's a clear difference between the two

For every Israeli killed by Palestinians, Israel kills 10.

A huge number of those are women and children killed in official actions by a state.

Israel has also stolen land from people they kill, and has done so for decades.

Israel has bombed the same UN location twice. It has attacked US troops. It has tried to use terrorism to frame Muslims.

And of course it used terror to found itself.

And these are just the tips of many icebergs.

[NCTraveler]

3. There is no difference.

When it comes to their acceptance of slaughtering women and children. They simply accept it.

You made no argument to the contrary.

[TimeSnowDemos]

16. Their is of course

This is the equivalent of blaming black people for being killed by police.

[NCTraveler]

17. I've blamed none of the dead for being killed.

I outline them as victims. Clearly.

You are two for two in your start at DU.



"This is the equivalent of blaming black people for being killed by police. "

Who is promoting that? It's one of the most ignorant things I have heard.

[oberliner]

4. Welcome to DU

Interesting first post.

[LanternWaste]

6. To whom is that numerical difference relevant to?

To whom is that numerical difference relevant to: the mother of the dead Palestinian child or the mother of the dead Israeli child?

Both? Of course. Hence, no relevant difference.

The important thing though, is while indicting A, you wholly ignore the sins of B. One-sided thought such as yours is why this conflict will not end anytime soon.

[marble falls]

7. In terms of children, the UN once reported that Israel out kills Palestinians more than 100 to one..

Just in general terms the IDF out kills Palestinians by a high margin. I am looking for the UN report, but I do have this table that speaks about the the IDF and its kill rate generaly

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-casualties-arab-israeli-conflict

[zipplewrath]

5. There are no angels

Both sides have decided that lethal violence is the solution. Not sure what, if anything, can make a change. Northern Ireland went through a few of decades of this. I'm never quite sure what changed there. I have always suspected the ultimate success had more to do with the formation of the EU common market and its affect on civil rights laws.

[marble falls]

8. This article is telling and shocking read.....

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/israel/palestine

[marble falls]

9. From an Israeli peace organization.

http://ifamericaknew.org/stat/children.html

[NCTraveler]

10. There hands are covered in blood.

Both sides are clearly willing to slaughter children and women. That graph can be used as propoganda for simpletons.

[Mosby]

11. ifamericansknew is run by a notorious antisemite.

[marble falls]

13. A Jewish antisemite? Do you have a link about that?

I know of Jewish anti-Zionists .....

https://popularresistance.org/israeli-zionists-do-not-speak-for-all-jews/

[NCTraveler]

19. It doesn't matter.

Hamas is just as guilty for the red bar in the graph. That is clear to any thinking person. Graphs like that are sold to simpletons.

https://www.politicalresearch.org/campus-profile-alison-weir-if-americans-knew/

[Mosby]

12. Israelis support peace, hamas supports violence

There, fixed it for you.

[NCTraveler]

14. Tell the fourteen year old who found himself in the crosshairs of a scope.

The Israeli sniper pulled the trigger in the name of peace.

The reaction from this embassy was known ahead of time. Didn't matter.

Your post is absurd. Solid peaceful snipers killing children with empty stomachs.

[mythology]

15. The government of Israel only claims to support peace

They clearly don't actually support peace in any meaningful sense. Neither does the Palestinian leadership. Nor do other Middle Eastern governments.

Until all the groups come to understand violence isn't a solution, whether that is Hamas funding bombings, the Israeli military firing on Palestinians, the Israeli government supporting continuing settlement expansions, other Middle Eastern governments using Israel as a boogeyman to distract from their own issues etc.

[NCTraveler]

18. Well said. nt