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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAccording to Giuliani, Mueller told Team Trump
that he will stick with DoJ guidelines that Trump cannot be indicted until he's impeached. /sigh
There is no way to get rid of this orange monster plaguing this country.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,166 posts)Secondly, even if it's true, a conservative (small c) approach like this still allows for Trump to be removed from office and then criminally indicted.
I've reserved myself to the position that Trump will not immediately be criminally indicated until after he is impeached and removed or resigns. If I'm wrong, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
riversedge
(70,184 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,425 posts)on what his plans are.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)It's just more ratficking by Ratficker Rudy.
He's lied about everything else so far, not to mention he pretty clearly doesn't know what's going on. He can't even keep straight what he's supposed to lie about for Trump, and tells completely different lies.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)That - it doesn't mean it is true. The Ghoul most likely is 'saying' this as one of his stupid failing and FLAILING plans.
And yes I just 'dehumanized an enemy of the American people' aka Ghouliani.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)So I guess yeah Giuliani could be lying, but I still don't think Mueller will indict Trump.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)I just think Ghoul is lying.
He's also scattered, disorganized, and seems not 'on his game'.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)flaunting to the media that Mueller has actually considered indicting Trump can't be good for his case.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Trump should be made a example of.
PJMcK
(22,026 posts)Robert Mueller's investigation has uncovered far more information than has been publicly released. Given the scope of the crimes and the range of the people alleged to have committed them, there is much, much more to this investigation than we've been told.
Have some patience. Trump will be exposed as the criminal that he is. We might have to wait until he's out of office but Trump is going to face justice.
Meanwhile, his presidency is hobbled and its legitimacy is questionable.
I'm putting my faith in Bobby 3-Sticks.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)that Mueller has spoken one word to the Ghoul.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)lisa58
(5,755 posts)and he hasnt made a true statement regarding this case the entire time he has represented him.
I do believe it will end up being a resignation- hopefully after Pence is indicted..
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)They have no reason not to continue to lie.
Skraxx
(2,970 posts)What an idiot.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)anything significant about the investigation or what he intends to do. It is true that the DoJ's guidelines say that a sitting president should not be indicted (although there is no definite legal authority for this), and that because of this it's likely that Mueller wouldn't indict (although maybe he'd want to consider it if a statute of limitations might otherwise run before Spanky leaves office). But what Rudy has to say isn't worth taking seriously because it's only intended for an audience of one.
PJMcK
(22,026 posts)Priceless!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Raven123
(4,813 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)Hoping to draw a reaction out of Mueller. Such amateur bullshit.
Fullduplexxx
(7,853 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)If Mueller's team really thought that, why was there some battling? I think Mueller's team merely stopped arguing the point. Giuliani wants to frame that as a concession.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-robert-mueller-indictment/index.html
Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)Let Trump continue to shake down people, corporations, and nations for personal gain. Let him continue to bold face lie to the American people. Let him continue to hold more outlandish rallies with racists and bigots galore. And let him drag the entire GOP with him and expose them for what they are...traitorous hypocrites refusing to do their jobs of upholding the constitution.
PJMcK
(22,026 posts)You've made your audience of one feel a little better for tonight. Maybe he'll be able to gobble his Big Macs this evening.
Meanwhile, do you realize you keep implying that your client is guilty? Can't you see that?
Do you think that Mr. Mueller's report will be bloodless? Are you really that naive? Don't you see how intense and profoundly deep this investigation is?
Dude, you very well might be implicated yourself since you appeared to have been the recipient of targeted political leaks during the 2016 campaign.
You really need to shut up and sit down.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)So I'm sure Mueller made no promises because the final decision isn't up to him.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969
The Justice Department regulations that govern Muellers work offer no clear endgame for the public to follow his investigation.
They do stipulate that the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein, has oversight of and final say on all major decisions by Mueller specifically including any indictments. Rosenstein is also required to submit a report to Congress on the grounds for closing the investigation.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)There's no reason to believe he's telling the truth about this, any more than he's told the truth about other things.
My take: Giuliani keeps making statements that he hopes Mueller will publicly confirm or deny - thereby giving Trump info as to what's going on inside Mueller's investigation.
You know that it's driving Spanky nuts that Mueller and team are so tight-lipped, he doesn't have a clue as to what they know, and what they'll be able to prove.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...you would never need to be reminded how full of shit he is.