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rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
3. If it gets really bad for Swamp Thing
Thu May 17, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018

after Mueller’s report is released, there will be an effort to strike a deal that allows him to avoid prosecution if he resigns. Or he will be assured a pardon by Pence if he resigns.

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(52,196 posts)
5. not at all willing to let him skate for "only" being president for a couple years (or more).
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:55 PM
May 2018

though i perhaps could be persuaded if i'm assured of state-level prosecutions....

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
6. It's not up to you or me
Thu May 17, 2018, 06:58 PM
May 2018

The DOJ will decide; Congress will decide if they don’t agree with what the DOJ decides.

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(52,196 posts)
7. damn i thought it was all up to me, personally.
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:11 PM
May 2018

thanks for clarifying.

well, i'll just have to content myself with giving or withholding my personal approval.

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(52,196 posts)
4. i agree that *this* supreme court might prevent a trial, but certainly not any supreme court.
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:54 PM
May 2018

one of the primary design goals of the constitution was to minimize the chance of tyranny.

it's really far-fetched to figure that the intent of the constitution was to empower the president with complete immunity for prosecution for as long as he remains president. keep in mind that there were no term limits originally, and keep in mind that crimes can be used to secure re-election.

imho, it's really inconceivable that the founders would have required impeachment prior to prosecution.



and really, the counter argument is based on scheduling conflicts. seriously? sorry, i'm too busy for a criminal trial, call me back in eight years? that's the constitutional argument? c'mon.

if a president can be compelled to sit for a civil trial, it's very hard to say a president can't be compelled to sit for a criminal trial.


*serving prison time after conviction and sentencing*, now that's where there actually is a constitutional argument. that i'll agree is in conflict with fulfilling the duties of president. one would hope at that point a convicted president would be impeached and removed, or would resign.

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