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manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. Fascinating!
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:37 PM
May 2018

That likely means Mueller or the NY guys thought THOSE TWO reports were so damaging they wanted them restricted, while leaving the other one unprotected. And that unprotected one was pretty damaging! LOL.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Not damaging - potentially involving classified information
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:48 PM
May 2018

Well, yes, damaging... but possibly involving transactions with foreign intelligence agents whose identity is preferred not to reveal at the moment.

But, at this point, since Avenatti has been blasting information which appears to have come from SARS, then it may not be difficult for the relevant parties at this point to realize that whatever cover they believed they had in connection with payments to Cohen's operations may have been blown.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. I think anyone who dealt w Cohen has no expectations that's private anymore....
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:52 PM
May 2018

I get that people are concerned about Mueller making the case but I think these leaks are possibly keeping him from being removed- and keeping the story in the news.
Ironic to see the WH crying about leaks after campaigning with them.

tazkcmo

(7,298 posts)
2. No new news here.
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:38 PM
May 2018

I'm sure the person who has expressed concern over this is aware how it works thus the concern.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. Let me see if I understand you correctly
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:43 PM
May 2018

You're saying that Alex Jones and Julian Assange in concert with Guccifer 2.0 hacked into FinCEN database and stole the SARS documents that were actually inscribed in stone by the last remaining Cromagnon in a cave in southern France and that those stones will be shot into space for eventual pickup by the alien mothership that has been directing the robot people in congress for the last fifty years?

Got it!

hlthe2b

(102,057 posts)
8. I feel certain both Ronin and Rachel said they'd tried to contact FinCEN about it...
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:49 PM
May 2018

Seems their spokesperson COULD have headed this off at the pass had they merely addressed their typical procedure.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
9. Supposedly Farrow spoke to a number of FINSEC people who claim
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:50 PM
May 2018

they have never experienced this, and don't recall hearing that anyone else had either.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. So what?
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:55 PM
May 2018

Honestly, so what?

It's obviously exceptional, and would only come up through procedures implemented above their pay grade.

This is the same kind of thing that happened when birthers "discovered" that Barack Obama "was not a citizen" by making unauthorized use of E-verify - not knowing that his SSN records were locked down to avoid access by looky-loos. Well, golly, none of them had ever run across an error of the sort they got either.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
12. The person involved here works for FINSEC and is not some outsider
Thu May 17, 2018, 08:09 PM
May 2018

FINSEC investigations aren't uncommon, and the tweet says it makes SARs unavailable during ongoing investigations. I would think that other FINSEC employees would have run into the situation where documents would be unabailabe. Why wouldn't all of the SAR documents pertaining to Cohen's business account be locked down since the information in those documents pertain to the investigation? My thought is that the SAR info. is in Mueller's hands, but I don't think that locking down documents is the norm, I think this is a special exception to the rule and thus the concern.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. Ever dealt with an IRS agent?
Thu May 17, 2018, 08:12 PM
May 2018

Knowing all of the possible rules and procedures at one's agency is a tall task.

mercuryblues

(14,519 posts)
15. So there are 2 competeing theories
Thu May 17, 2018, 08:19 PM
May 2018

1. Someone in the department deleted the SARS, so the whistleblower leaked out the remaining one.

2. Access to the missing SARS has been limited due to the nature of the investigation.

Both can't be true, But 1 of them is. Neither scenerio bodes well for Cohen.


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. Quite obviously they would not be able to say that
Thu May 17, 2018, 09:26 PM
May 2018

And given that access to existing and referenced documents is known to be unavailable, it’s not as if their statement would be this.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
18. Quite
Thu May 17, 2018, 09:30 PM
May 2018

The old Agatha Christie rule applies ...if you didn't see it or hear it yourself no one can attest to the truth or not until a thorough investigation.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
19. Maybe. But wasn't the head of that appointed by DT?
Thu May 17, 2018, 09:43 PM
May 2018

So I give at least some weight to the views of the law enforcement official who is risking 5 years in prison because of his concern that the records were whitewashed.

Also, shouldn't they have informed Maxine Waters and other in Congress who had asked for those materials that they wouldn't be made available?

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