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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:20 AM May 2018

The Sugarcoated Language Of White Fragility

White Fragility

“White Fragility” is the newest of these terms, and I chose to frame this piece around it because while it’s new and flashy, it’s not so sweet. It positions whiteness as weak and lacking instead of “privileged” or “supreme” while acknowledging the damage and violence this “fragility” has the power to cause.

To explain why she came up with this new term, Dr. DiAngelo said:

I think we get tired of certain terms. What I do used to be called “diversity training,” then “cultural competency” and now, “anti-racism.” These terms are really useful for periods of time, but then they get coopted, and people build all this baggage around them, and you have to come up with new terms or else people won’t engage. And I think “white privilege” has reached that point. It rocked my world when I first really got it, when I came across Peggy McIntosh. It’s a really powerful start for people. But unfortunately it’s been played so much now that it turns people off.

This so perfectly describes the “we see the medicine coming, so the sweetness loses its power” phenomenon. But while I think the term “White Fragility” is less sweet than some of the former terms, I’m not letting it off the hook. It is still a term invented by a White person for other White people, and it has quite a hefty dose of innocence built into it. What things are fragile? Newborn babies, fine china, snowflakes. Fragile things are usually valuable, and they need protection. Here we go again.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/anna-kegler/the-sugarcoated-language-of-white-fragility_b_10909350.html
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The Sugarcoated Language Of White Fragility (Original Post) oberliner May 2018 OP
The original piece from Robin DiAngelo. NCTraveler May 2018 #1
So this goes way back to 2011, not even the 2016 Huffington Post article. George II May 2018 #10
With respect to your topic line... NCTraveler May 2018 #13
Can we please put all this divisive nonsense on hold? YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #2
This is DU. kwassa May 2018 #8
I don't see the problem here ExciteBike66 May 2018 #3
""White Fragility" is the newest of these terms"? George II May 2018 #4
To be divisive JustAnotherGen May 2018 #5
It certainly wasn't posted to engage in a back and forth discussion. Lots of "back", no "forth". George II May 2018 #9
"Lots of "back", no "forth"." --- PERFECT! NurseJackie May 2018 #12
Did you want to have her JustAnotherGen May 2018 #6
This is the essence of white fragility. kwassa May 2018 #7
"White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable..." NurseJackie May 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems May 2018 #11
We need terms. ismnotwasm May 2018 #15

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. So this goes way back to 2011, not even the 2016 Huffington Post article.
Fri May 18, 2018, 11:13 AM
May 2018

I wonder why this is now being posted years later if not to be ........................

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
2. Can we please put all this divisive nonsense on hold?
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:28 AM
May 2018

Until after November and the Democrats control the house?

Now is not the time for scab picking

Other topics I’d rather not see right now

The wonders of Bernie Sanders

The wonders of Hilary

Wypipo

The threads turn into food fights

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
3. I don't see the problem here
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:31 AM
May 2018

If someone wants to use the "older" terms to try to convince us white folks to be less discriminatory, more power to them.

If someone (yes, even a white person) wants to invent new terms in order to do the same thing, more power to them.

Dr. DiAngelo using her new-fangled terms is not going to somehow impinge on the author's ability to use the term "racism".

Perhaps a "shotgun" approach will be more effective over time.

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. ""White Fragility" is the newest of these terms"?
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:36 AM
May 2018

You had to go way back to July 2016, almost two years ago, to come up with this "newest of these terms"?

Maybe I'm dense, but I just don't see the point of posting this here, now, in May 2018.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
6. Did you want to have her
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:53 AM
May 2018

Banned at DU too since MrScorpio is doing some excellent posts with this term and her quoted in them?

I mean - if that happened then you could shut up/shut down MrScorpio writing those OPs right?

You really really need to post ALL of your thoughts on this in Ask The Admin.

I would be rather interested in their response.

Like - maybe they will like - totally make it so racism in the context of white supremacy which IS the Black American Experience (how we experience America whether newcomers or descendants of slaves) - can NEVER be discussed at DU until we run it by oberliner to make sure he is personally not offended OR that any discussions ALWAYS reference FIRST the trials and tribulations of black supremacy in America and how from pre-natal to the grave it is detrimental to white Americans.

I don't know . . . Can I kick it?

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
7. This is the essence of white fragility.
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:57 AM
May 2018

from the article:

Dr. Robin DiAngelo, a White critical racial and social justice educator who created the term “White Fragility,” breaks it down like this:

White people in North America live in a social environment that protects and insulates them from race-based stress. This insulated environment of racial protection builds white expectations for racial comfort while at the same time lowering the ability to tolerate racial stress, leading to what I refer to as White Fragility. White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation. These behaviors, in turn, function to reinstate white racial equilibrium.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. "White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable..."
Fri May 18, 2018, 11:23 AM
May 2018
White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves.
Nicely worded and explained. I'm almost certain that there are many who will find even THAT to be offensive and threatening.

Response to oberliner (Original post)

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
15. We need terms.
Fri May 18, 2018, 11:33 AM
May 2018

Quite frankly I don’t give a fuck what they are, we need them to describe the state of racial inequities. White people are always going to be uncomfortable with them, or roll their eyes at them. The author makes interesting points, but the simple truth is our language lacks enough terms. From privilege to wipipo, all of them describe a state of whiteness that we cannot confront without the language to do so.

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