The Palestinians' self-made Nakba

[Mosby]

Every Palestinian death is a pity, including those who were killed on Monday. Those were unnecessary deaths, part of the Nakba culture the Palestinians have been adopting for 70 years now.

There was a Nakba. Palestine’s Arabs underwent an expulsion. Tens of millions around the world, including Jews, went through a similar expulsion. But the Palestinians are the only ones who have adopted an ethos of rejectionism, self-victimization, suffering and death. They aren’t looking for their own good. They have become addicted to a Nakba which is fully self-made, from its inception to this very day.

Monday’s protest was dedicated to Jerusalem. That’s interesting. Since the occupation in the year 638*, Jerusalem was—most of the time—under Muslim rule. They never built a capital there. They never celebrated the city. Nothing.

Jerusalem remained under Arab rule from 1949 to 1967. There was no occupation. But they didn’t establish the state of Palestine, and so they didn’t establish a capital either. They left Jerusalem as a marginal, neglected and forsaken city. Until Israel arrived. And then, only then, they remembered how much they care about Jerusalem.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5261338,00.html


* 638 was the year that invading Arabs from Arabia invaded Israel and conquered Jerusalem.

[flotsam]

1. Nothing?

Dome of the Rock
Qubbat As-Sakhrah
قبّة الصخرة
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Dome of the Rock is located in Jerusalem Dome of the Rock
Location within the Old City of Jerusalem


It was initially completed in 691 CE at the order of Umayyad Caliph Abd al-Malik during the Second Fitna, built on the site of the Roman temple of Jupiter Capitolinus, which had in turn been built on the site of the Second Jewish Temple, destroyed during the Roman Siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE. The original dome collapsed in 1015 and was rebuilt in 1022–23. The Dome of the Rock is in its core one of the oldest extant works of Islamic architecture.[2]

[Mosby]

2. the dome and al aksa was constructed after the Arab invaders conquered J'lem

It was built for political reasons to increase the standing of calif omar, who was competing with gulf caliphs.

[Xolodno]

7. Not going to respond to Mosby...not worth it.

But there is more that gets omitted.

He says its was for political reasons. That's non-Kosher baloney.

After the conversion of the Roman Empire to Christianity, the pagan temple was brought down and the Temple Mount was used as a place to dump refuse. As a testament to what Christians at that time called "the failed Jewish Religion".

When the Muslims conquered Jerusalem they were aghast to see how the holy site was treated, as it was also revered by them. So it was cleaned up and the Dome of the Rock and Mosque was built.

This is often left out, as it doesn't fit the political narrative by both evangelical Christians and Jews who want the Third (or Fourth, depending on your point of view) Temple restored.

Its often not mentioned, that the Muslims have controlled the Temple Mount the longest. Unless of course, the fact is accepted that the Palestinians are decedents from the Jewish people (Rome didn't kick everyone out, they needed some of the local populace to remain to service their army. And there are Ottoman records of them forcing Jewish villages to convert...and who knows how many did so willingly).

[TimeSnowDemos]

3. Blame the victim rhetorhic

Reminds me of the sort of the mindset of the "all lives matter" crowd.

[Mosby]

4. Lol.

The "victims" have tried to destroy Israel in 1947, 1967 and 1973.

They failed and now want the West to finish what they started.

[TimeSnowDemos]

5. The fact

That you ignore decades of terrorism, murder and land theft, and instead blame victims, repeatedly, says all anyone needs to know.

Only in America does the left side with terrorist rogue states.

[Mosby]

6. Arab/palestinian terrorism goes back more than 100 years.

They simply do not accept Jews in their midst.

There is no Palestinian land to steal, given that they rejected partition.

The Jewish people have every right to live in their homeland just like every other indigenous people like native Americans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_on_the_Rights_of_Indigenous_Peoples

[Xolodno]

8. Again I won't respond to him. But for your info...

What he fails to mention, so does Israeli terrorism under the British Mandate stretch a bit in time. But if were going to start comparing terrorism in terms of centuries, its Christianity that has a long record of terrorism against Jewish people. What he and a number of his compatriots complain about is the Islamic frequent ban of allowing Jews to worship at the Western Wall... meanwhile at the same time if a Jew so much walked past the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in the Christian Quarter, he was lucky to get out alive. Ironically, it was often the Muslims protecting the Jews from Christians when you look at the whole. Its only in recent history that the role reversed.

Oh its quite dishonest to say the Palestinians rejected the Partition. They didn't have a choice, it was made for them by Jordan, Egypt and other Arab nations. Who had their own ideas of Partition and it didn't include Israel or Palestine. Ironically, its these very aspirations that caused them to lose the 6 day war. The Israeli military was resigned at minimum that they would lose territory in this war. However, due to the mistrust among the Arab nations and what they thought they deserved in territory (King Hussein thought he should have it all and since he wasn't going to get it all, put up a token fight), they ended up losing.

[Mosby]

9. yeah, ironically it was the Jews who liberated Palestine

In 1967 from the Jordanians and Egyptians who both illegally annexed the future Palestinian country.

If that hadn't happened or the Arabs had destroyed Israel and slaughtered it's citizens, we would not even be talking about "Palestine".

Funny how things work out sometimes.

[Xolodno]

10. Whatever dude....