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https://politicalwire.com/2018/05/18/texas-official-blames-too-many-entrances-at-schools/"SNIP........
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) suggested the existence of too many entrances and too many exits in schools may lead to such shootings, the Daily Beast reports.
Said Patrick: We have to look at the design of our schools moving forward and retrofitting schools that are already built there are too many entrances and too many exits to our over 8,000 campuses in Texas. There arent enough people to put a guard at every entrance and exit maybe we need to look at limiting the entrance and exits into our schools so that we can have law enforcement looking at the people coming in through one or two entrances.
He added: Were gonna have to be creative. Were gonna have to think out of the box.
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GOP will say anything to keep the cycle of gun slaughter, attack on gun ownership alive so they get people voting for gun rights as a wedge issue. The attacks have to keep happening. A groundswell against guns has to keep happening. Gun owners have to keep being told the government is coming for your guns. Or you could just legislate 5 common sense gun laws and dial down gun humping and be done with it. But then it wouldn't be a wedge issue.
Initech
(100,062 posts)What's the solution then Dan? Trap everyone like rats while the Oath Keepers appoint themselves hall monitors?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Boggles the mind.
Igel
(35,296 posts)and not so many entrances.
Movie theatres come to mind. Lots of exits. What would a theatre do with 30 entrances? (Answer: Go bankrupt.)
School I work at has 23 entrances to the main part of the buildings. Two main entrances with somebody there to monitor who's coming and going. In the morning 19 of them are unlocked and open for anybody. The other four remain locked. When classes start, all but a few entrances are locked, at least in principle; some days the custodian's late by 5 minutes or an hour, and some days he's off and nobody locks them until it's 4 pm.
But even locked it's still a risk because kids let buddies in (or meet parents dropping off food). We've had weapons found on campus. Lots of drugs. More than a little alcohol. Kids who leave campus and get snuck back in, high or after sex or just out for fun for most of the day. It's really embarrassing when a couple of kids vanish, are marked absent when the parents think they're on campus, and then to find out they snuck back home to get high and have sex. Or, in some cases, get arrested off campus because they decided to do a bit of burglary or shoplifting.
So there's a difference between entrances and exits, in principle, and there should be a strict one. If kids didn't just let anybody in or make exceptions for friends of friends of friends, the building would be more secure.
Worse are doors to athletics or to the temporary buildings that plague Texas campuses. They have to stay open. (Well, as a kid our athletics doors were locked and if you needed to go back to the locker room early you had a hike to the main entrance.)
I've caught people in my classroom who were neither students nor administrators. They just waltzed on in because they used to be students or they were (adult) friends of students. Students don't have to carry IDs (well, they do, but that's not enforced, it's "oppression" and don't have to present them when asked (Papieren, bitte!). In other words, there's *no* security.
But nobody gets past the front desks after the bell rings in the morning. Which means all the shenanigans are through one of the other 21 entrances. Suggestion: Make the doors open, alarm them, and remove the outside handles. And don't leave them unlocked. I've been in schools that were like that, but they were considered "failing" or "high crime" schools.
salin
(48,955 posts)Let's make a really bad situation - even worse as fires happen more frequently than mass shootings. All because we can't get serious about trying to find real solutions to the real problems.
You have the write emoticon. My head is so sore, I can't even bring myself to hit the wall with it ... for the umpteenth time this week.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The problem isnt the schools, its the shootings.
CaptainTruth
(6,586 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)But I've already heard arguments using this as evidence that we need better background checks, barring sales to minors, and banning assault weapons.
None of those things would have affected this incident, so why not use it as fodder for the argument that it's ease of access and openness of campuses that's also at issue?
(In other instances, sure, all of these are issues. But still it's one hurting alienated little twerp that picks up the weapons, makes plans, and then fires the weapons.)
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Texas Republicans, and until they're all voted out of office this will continue to happen. Especially Abbott and Cruz and Cornyn.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)Republicans. Republicans that sit back and do nothing shooting after shooting after shooting. Republicans that are paid by the NRA to look the other way.
The people who keep electing Republicans own this problem. Its not going to change until those people stop voting for Republicans.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)It won't stop until people in all states stop voting against their own best interests.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)All elementary and middle school campuses. A parent has to be buzzed into the front office. That is usually as close as they can get to a classroom.
High schools have security at the front office, but it is more of an illusion. The campus has too many portable buildings, so students are outside for part of the day. And some students leave campus for work programs, etc.
pnwmom
(108,974 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)apparently will get you killed
pnwmom
(108,974 posts)Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)On right-wing radio, of course.
Real name: Dannie Scott Goeb
KatyMan
(4,189 posts)I'm Houston in the 80s
brettdale
(12,376 posts)That must be it.