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ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:46 PM Aug 2012

Kos: "Does Romney Have Alzheimer's? Seriously, Does He?" -- lots of examples

Alzheimer's is no laughing matter and this Diary is not meant to be funny. I seriously wonder if Romney has Alzheimer's. In my opinion, he is showing the signs of a person who is in the early stages of Alzheimer's or some other type of dementia.

One of the early symptoms to Alzheimer's is short-term memory loss, forgetting what you recently said or did. Confusion and poor judgment are also early signs. In the early stages, the patient can still function in society but lacks good judgment so usually family members will step in to correct any problem the poor judgment may have caused.

For months, we have literally witnessed Romney say one thing, then within seconds tell the media he did not say it. Then we go back to the video, and sure enough, Romney said what we thought he said. Now, I know Romney is a pathological liar -- but I think there is something more going on.

I remember several, several times when Ann Romney has had to step in to correct comments Mitt has said and then the campaign puts Mitt on a Media Blackout.

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Most Recent Example:
Yesterday at 8:00pm, the day Romney got back from his Foreign Policy PR Tour, Romney had an Op-Ed published in the rightwinged blog, National Review online. In Romney's Op-Ed, Romney doubled-down on saying the Palestinians are culturally inferior. But, just 10.5 hours before Romney published the Op-Ed, he ran to Fox and denied he ever compared the Israel culture to the Palestinian culture. But wait a minute! Romney's Op-Ed does compare the Israel and Palestine cultures. (confused? is your head shaking?)

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/01/1115628/-Does-Romney-Have-Alzheimer-s-Seriously-Does-He
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Kos: "Does Romney Have Alzheimer's? Seriously, Does He?" -- lots of examples (Original Post) ailsagirl Aug 2012 OP
I think it's clear ohheckyeah Aug 2012 #1
Agreed. There is something about him that is profoundly "off." hifiguy Aug 2012 #5
Absolutely. ohheckyeah Aug 2012 #15
Psychopathic behavior. No shred of empathy. WCGreen Aug 2012 #31
he appears to be sociopathic in his unconcern about things that drop the rest of us roguevalley Aug 2012 #37
I wouldn't go so far as to call him a sociopath XemaSab Aug 2012 #42
In a Romney Presidency (aka repubbie wet dream) R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2012 #36
I'm not saying it's true-- but it would explain a lot of things ailsagirl Aug 2012 #2
Yes, it would. Excellent find. randome Aug 2012 #22
He has arrogant piece of shitzia ecstatic Aug 2012 #3
We'll stay tuned ailsagirl Aug 2012 #4
There is something wrong with him. madaboutharry Aug 2012 #6
The thought has crossed my mind. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #7
Too bad candidates aren't required to produce medical treatment records aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #8
Whatever treatment he had it didn't work goclark Aug 2012 #23
I don't know what is wrong with him either... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #9
He sure as hell doesn't belong in the WH, whether or not he has it ailsagirl Aug 2012 #11
Remember kiddies Reagan did nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #10
Mental lapses are not a particularly troubling thing for RW candidates or voters IDemo Aug 2012 #12
Good pix!! ailsagirl Aug 2012 #16
My thought exactly... KegCreekDem Aug 2012 #28
- IDemo Aug 2012 #35
I think he's just an entitled asshole who is entirely unused to ever being questioned about anything Fumesucker Aug 2012 #13
Nah, I think he's just a sociopath. Now, if you haven't seen it you should see this short... Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #14
Yep, it's hard to keep track of all the lies. tk2kewl Aug 2012 #29
He's doesn't have Alzheimers, he's a psychopath. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #17
He's a lousy liar, then ailsagirl Aug 2012 #19
Not lousy, prolific. doohnibor Aug 2012 #21
Remember: "I don't remember if that's what I said, but if that's what I said...I stand by it." ailsagirl Aug 2012 #18
The most likely explanation for your example ... surrealAmerican Aug 2012 #20
outsourced yes, but was it offshored? TeamPooka Aug 2012 #50
I just think that he's got so many lies going... DearHeart Aug 2012 #24
I don't think it's Alzheimers but there is something wrong with him. nt Raine Aug 2012 #25
It's a feature, not a bug. Brickbat Aug 2012 #26
Strange you should bring this up... kentuck Aug 2012 #27
YES ailsagirl Aug 2012 #32
Narcissistic Personality Disorder targetpractice Aug 2012 #30
That IS bizarre ailsagirl Aug 2012 #33
Funny that you asked that... targetpractice Aug 2012 #38
Also, narcissists don't really have friends because they can't focus on anyone but themselves ailsagirl Aug 2012 #45
yes, I think that's more likely renate Aug 2012 #34
Have you watch his expressions when he gets applause during speeches? targetpractice Aug 2012 #39
nice catch! renate Aug 2012 #41
Could be... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #40
If nothing else, he's really looking harried these days ailsagirl Aug 2012 #43
I just re-read all the responses to this thread ailsagirl Aug 2012 #44
Was Just Discussing This RobinA Aug 2012 #46
Its not Alzheimer's grantcart Aug 2012 #47
some interesting points mercuryblues Aug 2012 #48
brain injuries including strokes can cause dementia after patient has recovered wordpix Aug 2012 #52
It might explain why press access is so limited n/t intaglio Aug 2012 #49
Lets test him 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #51

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
1. I think it's clear
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:49 PM
Aug 2012

something is wrong with Romney - as to what it is I don't know.

The Republicans would like nothing better than another puppet president.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. Agreed. There is something about him that is profoundly "off."
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:56 PM
Aug 2012

Fake laugh, inability to admit saying what he said on the record, total lack of compassion or empathy. Complete woodenness and lack of normal human reactions. He ain't right in the head and I say that in all seriousness.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
15. Absolutely.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012

It's not normal to contradict yourself in the same sentence. He has a problem but since I'm not a doctor I couldn't begin to say what his problem is.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
37. he appears to be sociopathic in his unconcern about things that drop the rest of us
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:28 PM
Aug 2012

to our knees. He also has an asperger's like focus on what he wants and will walk in a straight line through dung up to his chin to get it. He's been a bully and assaulted people both literally and figuratively all his life. He is missing his soul.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
42. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a sociopath
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

I think it's that he doesn't believe in anything.

If you don't tell lies, then you never have to keep your story straight. Since everything out of that guy's mouth is some sort of spin or bullshit, you can't expect him to keep it all straight.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
36. In a Romney Presidency (aka repubbie wet dream)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:37 PM
Aug 2012

he could be very Reaganesque and sleep through most of his cabinet meetings.

The repubbies would love that.

ecstatic

(32,652 posts)
3. He has arrogant piece of shitzia
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:51 PM
Aug 2012

When someone not only spouts BS, but is super arrogant and uninterested in keeping track with what s/he just said, you end up with Rmoney. While early onset of Alzheimer's is possible, there isn't sufficient evidence to show that yet.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
6. There is something wrong with him.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:56 PM
Aug 2012

I would think he is going to have a hard time when he refuses to release medical records.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. The thought has crossed my mind.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:57 PM
Aug 2012

Absolutely no joking matter, also not something to overlook in a person seeking any sort of leadership or power. Or car keys for that matter.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
8. Too bad candidates aren't required to produce medical treatment records
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:58 PM
Aug 2012

I'd be willing to bet Romney has had psych counseling somewhere in his background, especially with all the bizarre dress-up behavior, the fits of anger, and the near-fatal traffic accident. As far as signs of pre-dementia, I can't tell if it's just Romney brazenly thinking he can take every side of an issue without suffering any political consequences (a psychological problem in itself) or if he genuinely has problems with forgetfulness.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
23. Whatever treatment he had it didn't work
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:04 PM
Aug 2012

I believe he is a sociopath and I believe his family and friends should have never allowed him to be in the Race.

But ~ he may have pushed their face in their dinner plate AGAIN if they tried to assist him in his decisions.

He is out to lunch , breakfast and dinner that is for sure.
Lost in space.For treatment, he would need to be put in a facility for a long time.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. I don't know what is wrong with him either...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:59 PM
Aug 2012

Alzheimer's maybe even a pathological liar can get it. Psychosis, probably he is an animal abuser, pathological liar, and fires people for sport as much as financial gain. He ain't right that is for sure.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
11. He sure as hell doesn't belong in the WH, whether or not he has it
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:01 PM
Aug 2012

He doesn't care about us-- we all know that. It would be the ultimate power trip for him, but it would be a disaster for us.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Remember kiddies Reagan did
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:59 PM
Aug 2012

for at least half of his presidency. One of the early signs of it was his use of candies to help with memory.

I doubt Romney has Alzheimers, but if he does, time to back away from the Presidency run.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
16. Good pix!!
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:06 PM
Aug 2012

But to say something one minute, be questioned about it the next minute, and then deny saying it at all... I mean, that's weird. David Corn was talking about that yesterday on Lawrence's (I think) program. Corn recounted an instance (it's in the Kos link) where this happened to him when he was questioning Romney. He was just shaking his head in disbelief.

KegCreekDem

(75 posts)
28. My thought exactly...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:28 PM
Aug 2012

Republicans seem to prefer mental light weights who are easily manipulated by their handlers. Don Regan and Nancy Reagan ran Ronnie. Cheyney and Rove ran Bush II. Who are the powers behind Romney?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. I think he's just an entitled asshole who is entirely unused to ever being questioned about anything
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aug 2012

Practically everything he does is what most Republicans do but just taken to a higher plane..

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
14. Nah, I think he's just a sociopath. Now, if you haven't seen it you should see this short...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:03 PM
Aug 2012

...video comparing the mental acquity of George W Bush during the Texas gubernatorial race vs. his performance in a debate with Kerry.

That is a strong example of someone who clearly has acutely diminished or changed cognitive abilities over a short period of time.



I don't see that kind of decline/change in Romney and I've seen candid video of him from a number of different events.

PB

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
17. He's doesn't have Alzheimers, he's a psychopath.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:07 PM
Aug 2012

Rmoney doesn't have a memory problem. He has a lying problem, and a lack-of-conscience problem.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
19. He's a lousy liar, then
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

If you're going to lie, you should space the lies out, not reverse yourself practically in the same breath.

 

doohnibor

(97 posts)
21. Not lousy, prolific.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:48 PM
Aug 2012

He's not telling lies to be believed, he's telling lies so that each one in his audience will hear a little piece of their own special truth. Doesn't matter that there are three contradictions in two sentences, everyone gets to hear a phrase that they like.

When you are dealing with suckers who only get excited when their favorite bullshit neuron fires (i.e., the "Freedom" neuron, the abortion neuron, the tax cut neuron, the illegal immigrant neuron, etc.) you have to keep throwing out the lies to keep your base excited. What's amazing is how Mitt's been able to ride it this far.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
18. Remember: "I don't remember if that's what I said, but if that's what I said...I stand by it."
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:10 PM
Aug 2012

One of Lawrence's favorite video clips.

Now it makes me wonder. He could just be monumentally absent-minded...
Whatever it is, we DON'T want him!!!!

surrealAmerican

(11,357 posts)
20. The most likely explanation for your example ...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:30 PM
Aug 2012

... would be that Mitt didn't actually write that op-ed. He probably authorized one of his "advisors" to write it under his name.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
27. Strange you should bring this up...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:16 PM
Aug 2012

I was just telling my wife a couple of days ago about how old he looks sometimes - the way he walks and moves. It is no laughing matter.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
32. YES
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:57 PM
Aug 2012

I know what you mean. But all of this (alzheimer's) is just conjecture-- I suppose we'll find out what's what soon enough. I just noticed the post on Kos and moved it over here.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
30. Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:32 PM
Aug 2012

Folks with NPD lie constantly to avoid experiencing shame... I know someone with NPD that will deny saying something they said only 30 seconds before. It's very bizarre.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
33. That IS bizarre
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

Have you ever recorded the person then played it back to show that, indeed, he/she did say it? Seriously

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
38. Funny that you asked that...
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:22 AM
Aug 2012

I have. Narcissists will avoid confrontation with facts AT ALL COST to avoid shame. The narcissist in my life literally plugged their ears and left the room to avoid hearing the recording. Immediately thereafter, they embarked on a massive campaign of character assassination to preempt any fallout from me playing it to anyone else.

Narcissist are beyond hope. They believe they are perfect and control everyone around them like chess pieces. Narcissists appear vain, incapable of empathy, and are eager to please... but, they actually are deeply insecure and must please all audiences. They will reflexively say whatever they think will please their audience in order to quickly move past uncomfortable topics to avoid feeling any kind of shame. They aren't evil. They are a result of very early childhood trauma or neglect or overbearing parents.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
45. Also, narcissists don't really have friends because they can't focus on anyone but themselves
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:31 PM
Aug 2012

Sometime it's not immediately apparent but it shows up at some point.

renate

(13,776 posts)
34. yes, I think that's more likely
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:01 PM
Aug 2012

And look at the way he gets visibly pissed off--on camera! while asking people to vote for him!--when he's challenged or disagreed with. I think you're right.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
39. Have you watch his expressions when he gets applause during speeches?
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:27 AM
Aug 2012

He soaks in the applause, smirks, and look so proud of himself — despite the fact that he just read something from a teleprompter.

Obama, on the other hand, seems to be motivated by applause and eager to move on to the next point... pushing forward.

I dunno if that observation makes sense.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
40. Could be...
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:26 AM
Aug 2012

but I think it is arrogance. He was a CEO- who would dare call him on his bullshit. People kissed his ass for years, and he cannot comprehend why isn't still happening.

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
43. If nothing else, he's really looking harried these days
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:49 PM
Aug 2012

Stressed-out, nervous with inappropriate laughter, panicky eyes...
While the President continues to be cool as a cucumber (and earnest and passionate in his speeches)
What a contrast!

ailsagirl

(22,885 posts)
44. I just re-read all the responses to this thread
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:03 PM
Aug 2012

and you guys provided some really insightful feedback. Thank you!!

DEMS ROCK!!!

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
46. Was Just Discussing This
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:55 PM
Aug 2012

The thing that gets me is the dumb things he keeps saying. Just politically dumb. And it's not like he's a newbie to politics. I was worried about him vs. Obama as opposed to Santorum or Newt because I figured he could run a decent campaign. He's experienced for heaven's sake. The stuff he says just boogles the mind. I agree something is wrong with him.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
48. some interesting points
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 04:42 PM
Aug 2012

and I am going to throw another one into the mix. Brain damage from his car accident in France.

according to this article the police thought he was dead. He awoke from a coma in the hospital. He could very well be suffering from short term memory loss. Combine that with his penchant for lying and he would be a grade A disaster as president.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085412/The-shocking-pictures-Mitt-Romney-died-young-Mormon-missionary.html

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
52. brain injuries including strokes can cause dementia after patient has recovered
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:10 AM
Aug 2012

My mother's friend at age 87 had a stroke and recovered from it, but ever since she's had mild dementia.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
51. Lets test him
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:04 PM
Aug 2012

can he count money?
can he understand time?

Yes and I think so.

Not alzheimers. Just years and years of everyone kissing his rich ass so he never had to learn to actually deal with real people or real situations.

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