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Why does Gina Haspell consistently say "CIA" instead of *the* "CIA"? (Original Post) cyclonefence May 2018 OP
Because they (CIA themselves) use "CIA" vs "The CIA". You can see that use on their website. nt PoliticAverse May 2018 #1
Because torture changes the torturer and the tortured. nt DRoseDARs May 2018 #2
This is common throughout government. unblock May 2018 #3
Maybe, but cyclonefence May 2018 #4
Does she view it as a living-breathing entity of some sort? She personifies it by omitting "the". NurseJackie May 2018 #5
That's not uncommon MrScorpio May 2018 #6
Same reason we say "NASA" and not "The NASA" hexola May 2018 #7
We don't say "FBI" cyclonefence May 2018 #8
The FBI is one of the exceptions EffieBlack May 2018 #11
There's nothing at all unusual, improper, or incorrect about that usage... ADX May 2018 #9
I'm going to ask FBI to investigate n/t cyclonefence May 2018 #10
Yeah, you do that... ADX May 2018 #12

unblock

(52,181 posts)
3. This is common throughout government.
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:12 AM
May 2018

"I need to get your budget estimates for treasury"
"Has state been informed about what the ambassador did?"
"Omb's numbers aren't good"

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
4. Maybe, but
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:37 AM
May 2018

You don't hear
"I need to get your budget estimates for FBI"

Plus all the other CIA officials speaking today say "the" CIA. I wonder what her deal is. There has to be a reason, I suspect specious, for her usage which is not standard for anyone else.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
6. That's not uncommon
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:49 AM
May 2018

During my 7 years in the Pentagon, we routinely used "DoD" vs "THE DoD."

I would have never found the lack of the "the" in a federal agency's acronym unusual.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
7. Same reason we say "NASA" and not "The NASA"
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:53 AM
May 2018

I guess...I noticed it too - but might be proper for acronyms.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
8. We don't say "FBI"
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:13 PM
May 2018

She is so consistent and so out of synch with everyone else that I think she's got some buggy reason for doing this. My father-in-law used to get up and pretend to leave the restaurant when a waitress put his food down with a "there you go." I feel like it's something like that.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
11. The FBI is one of the exceptions
Mon May 21, 2018, 05:48 PM
May 2018

As many have already explained, it is standard practice to omit the “the” when referring to cabinet departments and agencies.

Her calling it “CIA” is no big deal.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
12. Yeah, you do that...
Tue May 22, 2018, 11:02 AM
May 2018

...because despite your lame attempt at snarky humor, you don't have a clue about the way those two different entities are referred to by their respective employees.

Nice try though; thanks for playing. I give you a 1.3/10...

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