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global1

(25,241 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:09 PM May 2018

Is Trump Slowly Losing His Base And This Is Going Unreported By MSM?.....

I had occasion to be with a lot of people over the last week - many of whom were supporters of Trump in 2016. It was interesting to hear how many of them now question why they voted for Trump and saying they were regretting their vote.

Now I'm wondering if I just happened upon a unique group of people or if anybody here on DU has run into the same with other former Trump voters?

Is this happening around the country? And if it is - why isn't the MSM reporting Trump losing his base?

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JustAnotherGen

(31,807 posts)
1. I don't think so
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:11 PM
May 2018

I think they know that they are viewed as lacking morals, character and integrity in 'polite society' so they will put on one face to people they know think 45 is too wet to step on, and too low to kick -

But when around 'like minded' folks they probably high five each other and pledge to vote for 45 again in 2020.

marlakay

(11,447 posts)
6. I think thats how it is in my area
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:37 PM
May 2018

Where 60% voted for him. I never hear him talked about in public, everyone is just doing normal non political stuff. Only time I hear something political is at my liberal dance class where its from our side.

I see some trucks with bumper stickers thats it.

This is a very christian area so one would hope they feel a bit guilty.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
2. His real "base," the hard-core Trumpistas, probably won't budge.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:22 PM
May 2018

However, there are certainly some people who voted for him but who now regret their vote. These are probably people who voted for him only because they hated Hillary, having succumbed to the influence of 20 years of right-wing propaganda (I know a few of these), people who weren't paying attention to issues but liked the idea of someone who seemed to be "anti-establishment" or who liked the idea of an apparently successful businessman as president, as well as those who always vote Republican regardless of the candidate. At least some of those people are probably changing their minds. However, there is an immovable base, maybe 30% or so, who will not, no matter what happens.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
14. If only a handful out of every 100 of them
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:32 PM
May 2018

either doesn't vote, votes 3rd party or stays home, it can make a big difference. Just 1 Trump voter in 100 doing that in 2016 would have given Clinton the electoral votes of not just Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, but also North Carolina and Florida.

marlakay

(11,447 posts)
8. I was hoping so last vote the primary
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:41 PM
May 2018

Last week but even though my progressive candidate won for dems if you total all dems and republicans that voted republicans had almost twice the amount

My state Oregon has 1/3 no party that couldn’t vote in primary so I just hope some of them vote in November. It is so large because we have automatic voter registration and they put you in no party until you choose one.

 

sunRISEnow

(217 posts)
9. I had this conversation the other day when told friends and family did not vote Trump.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:48 PM
May 2018

This was told to me to console me and tell me these people were ok. I told the person that each of those people then voted Republican down the ticket. They cannot feel good about not voting Trump when they instilled the Republican party. The Republican party is the problem and a vote for them has put us here.

I do not give a pass to someone who didn't vote Trump but supports the Republican Party.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
4. I don't think so, no.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:32 PM
May 2018

He may be losing his grip on the swing voters who went his way mostly because they hated Hillary, but I don't think his base is abandoning him.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. I actually do think there are some reasonable republicans that probably voted for him because
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:38 PM
May 2018

A. They could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary or B. They didn't like him but he was the republican candidate and who else were they going to vote for. They wanted a republican who could win.

The people we see as their base are the loudest and most visible of the deplorables, but I don't thing that demographic represents everyone who voted for him in the last election. The worst of them are getting worse and more violent in their language and threats, but I think there is a silent block of Trump voters who just wish he would go away and would give anything to have someone like Romney or Bush back again.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
10. One thing we need to realize about Trump voters:
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:56 PM
May 2018

Yes, he has his cult of followers who adore him, no matter what he does. But there are millions of people that knew exactly what kind of person he was and voted for him anyway. They hate liberals more than criminals. These are the people who put him in office and the same mentality allows him to stay.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Evidence will be this,
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:53 PM
May 2018

watch the Primary results in the next few weeks. This will give us some hard numbers on voter shifts if any.

Dem_4_Life

(1,765 posts)
12. I have seen a few of these
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:01 PM
May 2018

But I have also seen a lot of the DIE HARD fire breathing Trump supporters. These people like to speak up more which I would gather to guess the former Trump supporters who currently do not support him might just be more quiet.

Fingers crossed there are a lot more that we just don't see.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
13. Gotta think a few of them voted for President Underwear Streak
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:26 PM
May 2018

actually believing he was going to help them, who are starting to figure out they got nothing except the 1.5 trillion bill for his tax scam. But if you put yourself in their place who would want to admit they were that stupid? So maybe there will be more of those closet regretters than we know, come election time.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
15. A lot of people don't pay much attention to politics. They get information,
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:39 PM
May 2018

if they get any at all, from neighbors and relatives. Personally, I think it's stupid not to pay attention to politics but the reality is that many people don't find it interesting and don't watch the news, even Fox. SO they might have heard only that Trump is a shrewd businessman (ha!) and that Hillary Clinton was bad, somehow. People vote on the basis of little or no accurate information and don't realize what the result is until the shit hits their fan.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
16. Unfortunately that is so true, and many of them still go vote,
Tue May 22, 2018, 08:13 AM
May 2018

in complete ignorance, once every 4 years.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
17. His base was never really tracked, and still aren't being reported on, much.
Tue May 22, 2018, 08:17 AM
May 2018

You get a few samplings in stories designed to keep their dream alive, but Trump's "win" was a big surprise for more than Russian reasons. His incoherent hate speech really did reach hitherto-unsung pinheads who turned up to vote.

They can't be counted on to turn up in the same numbers, and Trump/GOP policies are going to depress that vote this time around.

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