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trump has summoned Rosenstein & Wray to the White House this afternoon. (Original Post) spanone May 2018 OP
So, they'll be having an audience with the King, then? MineralMan May 2018 #1
Obstruction of Justice in full view. spanone May 2018 #3
Attempted obstruction in full view. :) Hortensis May 2018 #26
It is still the Presidency, regardless the fool. sunRISEnow May 2018 #20
The POS in the WH has disrespected the office of the presidency in America - asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #58
"Wtf?" sunRISEnow May 2018 #69
Hopefully Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #2
That would be a wonderful dream! Dem_4_Life May 2018 #17
Actually, the DoJ has agreed to investigate the FBI. Hortensis May 2018 #43
"....going through the motions." sprinkleeninow May 2018 #61
That would actually be hilarious and KPN May 2018 #44
Big money saver!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #59
Here we go... Zoonart May 2018 #4
This Can't Be Good Skraxx May 2018 #5
Will he ask for a loyalty oath? emulatorloo May 2018 #6
The Bully King. Chipper Chat May 2018 #7
He said he was going to demand an investigation. Guess he is obstructing up front and personal. shraby May 2018 #8
unbelievable, ain't it? spanone May 2018 #9
I'd love some indictments malaise May 2018 #34
I'd love that too. If he fires anyone, bet congress remains mute. spanone May 2018 #37
It's "in your face". eom sprinkleeninow May 2018 #54
He doesn't want an investigation, he wants his predetermined results. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #85
Good. Witnesses for each other...nt SidDithers May 2018 #10
I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. Arkansas Granny May 2018 #13
Perusing the thread, you made me laugh. sunRISEnow May 2018 #16
Absolutely. Neither would meet with him alone. Hortensis May 2018 #29
Nah! Just some buddy to buddy talk! imanamerican63 May 2018 #11
I disagree with those who think Rosenstein and Wray need to be prepared to resign RockRaven May 2018 #12
RED ALERT!!!!! n/t manor321 May 2018 #14
Must have gotten a call from Putin on what to do next. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #63
He appears to be really putting on a show for us and the world. And it is only Monday. sunRISEnow May 2018 #15
Yep, he's preparing to fire them. n/t cynatnite May 2018 #19
Whatever. I do not know. I have the day off though, so I can watch. sunRISEnow May 2018 #22
True. n/t cynatnite May 2018 #47
It's time for their oaths of fealty. Yonnie3 May 2018 #18
Be funny if they wore wires wouldn't it? shraby May 2018 #21
Brilliant! GreenPartyVoter May 2018 #31
That's the only mistake Comey made with regard to Cheeto and OldHippieChick May 2018 #92
What if they simply told him he is obstructing justice at this meeting (when he asks them to BSdetect May 2018 #23
What if they don't go? MGKrebs May 2018 #24
He's going to try to MFM008 May 2018 #25
Foot stamping , blustering bully session YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #48
Will he ask Christopher Wray to leave the room ? kentuck May 2018 #27
That's why they each need to wear a wire. shraby May 2018 #28
this appears to be blatant obstruction. he's not having them over for tea. spanone May 2018 #30
😆 after noon tea inna russian tea room..... sprinkleeninow May 2018 #67
ABC says Trumps tweet 'demand' is on schedule.......... riversedge May 2018 #36
I would demand that McGahn be present as well exboyfil May 2018 #88
Paranoid, stupid, and doesn't listen to advice.... Sancho May 2018 #32
Mueller is getting real close, I mean really close.. SummerSnow May 2018 #33
Will this be known as the Monday night massacre? shraby May 2018 #35
BREAKING BREAKING Hillary Clinton Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #38
Unless he gives his credible sources duforsure May 2018 #39
No love lost between Director Wray and LOSER45: Leghorn21 May 2018 #40
Hope they wirte up some good memos afterward. nt cyberswede May 2018 #41
If they are all in the same room can he still fire them by tweet?? dameatball May 2018 #42
Hope he greets them with his wrists out for the cuffs. Back to reality. Hoyt May 2018 #45
Have your marching shoes ready. sarcasmo May 2018 #46
This is where the rubber hits the road. MoonRiver May 2018 #49
Yep, Trump is trying to take America down anyway he can. I hope the idiot factor of the US RKP5637 May 2018 #66
Oh, fwiw, Coates and Kelly will be there as well: Leghorn21 May 2018 #50
Putting pressure on them to give Nunes classified info? janx May 2018 #55
Wouldn't be surprised, eh janx? I was just thinking, a nice headline would be Leghorn21 May 2018 #60
YES, he did. But this: janx May 2018 #70
YES - it's a distinct possibility, j, and maybe the only one - Leghorn21 May 2018 #75
Not good. kentuck May 2018 #57
Yeah, this is a dark day, and all I know to do right now is hold my breath, k - whewwww - nt Leghorn21 May 2018 #64
They should know him well enough now... kentuck May 2018 #51
It is about the "demand." n/t janx May 2018 #52
I'm riffing on 1974: Brother Buzz May 2018 #53
Hmmm, they could just LOCK HIM UP now and save a lot of taxpayer money! n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #56
What will the king want? itcfish May 2018 #62
I'd wear a wire. Or two. bitterross May 2018 #65
Lordy, I hope there are tapes! n/t janx May 2018 #74
Why Kelly and Coates ???? kentuck May 2018 #68
To convince Rosenstein and Wray the error of their ways? shraby May 2018 #71
I bet he asks Rosenstein for a date to end the investigation? kentuck May 2018 #72
A firing or just a dictatorial scolding?? Vinca May 2018 #73
Political pressure. janx May 2018 #79
VERY , VERY, FRIGGIN' SHADY kentuck May 2018 #76
By 4 EDT the sh*t will be flying off the fan blades. skip fox May 2018 #78
Unless they're fired, we may not hear about the contents of the meeting until another day. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #89
I'm so tired of this asshole, day after day after day..... spanone May 2018 #81
Where's Sessions? TeamPooka May 2018 #77
Donnie will have them checked for wires. Thomas Hurt May 2018 #80
We hereby demand that Chickensoup May 2018 #82
but donnie said bill clinton bumping into loretta lynch on the tarmac was a horrible crime unblock May 2018 #83
There must be undetectable wires C_U_L8R May 2018 #84
Somebody's phone will either be set to record, or will have been hacked The_jackalope May 2018 #87
When will this ever end? Mr. Ected May 2018 #86
I am not hopeful right now. triron May 2018 #90
So are they still in a meeting? janx May 2018 #91
I wonder who itcfish May 2018 #93
Smoky-eyed Sarah said the meeting was planned before today malaise May 2018 #94
surrrre it was... spanone May 2018 #95
The Grand Old Duke of York, he had 10,000 men........ OnDoutside May 2018 #96
update from Acosta janx May 2018 #97
Acosta says they are done meeting Yonnie3 May 2018 #98
Thanks!!!!! spanone May 2018 #99
 

sunRISEnow

(217 posts)
20. It is still the Presidency, regardless the fool.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:07 PM
May 2018

Calling in the top to heads of these particular groups, after threats with his tweet, mean something.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
58. The POS in the WH has disrespected the office of the presidency in America -
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:42 PM
May 2018

Ya - please proceed - "means something" - calling in the top "two" heads of the FBI" - "these particular groups" - you mean those two heads who keep the USS Rule of LAW, America's ship on course - safe???

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. Actually, the DoJ has agreed to investigate the FBI.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

My guess is that's probably only sensible and even effectively necessary to do in view of the dangerous lies the right is being supersaturated with. No prob, Mr. Trump.

Given the DoJ's oversight of the FBI, they could probably finalize and upload a report this afternoon, this week at the latest, but they'll reinvestigate as part of going through the motions.

WaPo Opinion: In what can perhaps best be described as an act of appeasement, the Justice Department has announced that its inspector general will examine whether the FBI acted out of political motivation in conducting its investigation into links between Russia and the Trump campaign.

This comes in response to President Trump’s tweet that he will “officially” demand that the Justice Department investigate whether the department or the FBI “infiltrated or surveilled the Trump Campaign for Political Purposes,” including whether this occurred at the direction of anyone in the Obama administration.

The move by the Justice Department — which was undertaken at the order of Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein — is meant to temporarily mollify Trump in the face of what is a dramatic escalation of his ongoing effort to delegitimize special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation.


It's meant to avoid a serious confrontation, of course, while the real investigation continues.

sprinkleeninow

(20,212 posts)
61. "....going through the motions."
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:44 PM
May 2018

I have learned to consider 'all' when presented with something that could at first glance look like bad news.
💙🇺🇸🌊

85. He doesn't want an investigation, he wants his predetermined results.
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:15 PM
May 2018

"Sentence first, verdict afterward," yelled the Red Queen.

Since we're already through the Looking Glass, I wouldn't be surprised if this is what he tells them.

WE MUST NOT LET THIS BEHAVIOR BECOME THE NEW NORMAL!

Resist!

imanamerican63

(13,727 posts)
11. Nah! Just some buddy to buddy talk!
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:02 PM
May 2018

I would hope they stand up to Trump and follow the laws of the constitution!

RockRaven

(14,890 posts)
12. I disagree with those who think Rosenstein and Wray need to be prepared to resign
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:02 PM
May 2018

I think they need to be prepared not to follow any orders from Trump they deem inappropriate and force Trump to FIRE them.

 

sunRISEnow

(217 posts)
22. Whatever. I do not know. I have the day off though, so I can watch.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:10 PM
May 2018

It is important to get the little stories along with the gist, to better understand. Life often gets in the way of spending the time to really pay attention. And Trump does put on a show. This is another level, I think with a nation of responsible adults that can speak out. While, 2018 gets closer and closer and the Democratic Party is strong.

Yonnie3

(17,419 posts)
18. It's time for their oaths of fealty.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:06 PM
May 2018

Neither one seems to be leaning towards that oath. It's going to be a crazy meeting. Will they be able to placate the wanna be king in order to remain in their positions?

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
92. That's the only mistake Comey made with regard to Cheeto and
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:59 PM
May 2018

I hope they don't forget it. They should both have digital recorders going from the moment they enter the WH.

BSdetect

(8,994 posts)
23. What if they simply told him he is obstructing justice at this meeting (when he asks them to
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:10 PM
May 2018

investigate the investigation).

And then refuse to agree to break the law.

There is no basis for his claims.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
48. Foot stamping , blustering bully session
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:22 PM
May 2018

But no action.

I think OrangeTurd has been told that everything changes if he fires anyone, and by that I mean no more enabling by enough pugs to make a difference

riversedge

(70,056 posts)
36. ABC says Trumps tweet 'demand' is on schedule..........
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018


Jonathan Karl
‏Verified account @jonkarl
38m38 minutes ago

Jonathan Karl Retweeted

ABC News has learned President Trump will meet today at the White House with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray. The meeting is scheduled for 3pm. I'm told this "demand" will be a topic of discussion ...








exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
88. I would demand that McGahn be present as well
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:28 PM
May 2018

That is kind of his job - to protect the office of the Presidency. If Trump is planning to lay down a steaming pile, at least McGahn might be able to remind him of that fact.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
33. Mueller is getting real close, I mean really close..
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:16 PM
May 2018

Trump is desperate by calling in these two. I bet they will both be fired today. Calling them in to discuss the Russia probe is an obstruction. Expect breaking news today.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
38. BREAKING BREAKING Hillary Clinton
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:19 PM
May 2018

documents show she took a donation from Fidel Castro ...

Wait,

further and NEWER BREAKING NEWS ! ! ! !

American government ceases to operate and hunts down and finds and arrests Hillary Clinton, indicts and tries her before lunch, in prison before dinner.




duforsure

(11,884 posts)
39. Unless he gives his credible sources
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:19 PM
May 2018

Of these latest claims, they should tell him it'll take time to investigate if his sources check out, which I doubt that he has credible anything. If he's allowed to target his investigation he is above the rule of law.

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
40. No love lost between Director Wray and LOSER45:
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:19 PM
May 2018

From January:

Attorney General Jeff Sessions — at the public urging of President Donald Trump — has been pressuring FBI Director Christopher Wray to fire Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, but Wray threatened to resign if McCabe was removed, according to three sources with direct knowledge.

https://www.axios.com/scoop-sessions-fbi-trump-christopher-wray-877adb3e-5f8d-44a1-8a2f-d4f0894ca6a7.html

May 16:

FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday that he’s “deeply concerned” about foreign companies like ZTE gaining access to the U.S. telecommunications network, days after President Donald Trump sparked controversy by expressing a willingness to save the Chinese phone-maker.

Wray told lawmakers at a Senate Appropriations subcommittee hearing that he wouldn’t comment publicly on a specific company — but “we at the FBI remain deeply concerned that any company beholden to foreign governments that don’t share our values are not companies that we want to be gaining positions of power inside our telecommunications network.”

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/05/16/fbi-wray-zte-china-trump-594471?__twitter_impression=true

Also May 16:

“The day that we can't protect human sources is the day the American people start becoming less safe," Wray told members of the Senate Appropriations Committee. "Human sources in particular who put themselves at great risk to work with us and with our foreign partners have to be able to trust that we're going to protect their identities and in many cases their lives and the lives of their families."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/fbi-director-christopher-wray-hearing/index.html

dameatball

(7,392 posts)
42. If they are all in the same room can he still fire them by tweet??
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:20 PM
May 2018

If not, they are probably safe.

But seriously, best bet is what we all are thinking. Gonna get interesting.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
49. This is where the rubber hits the road.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:28 PM
May 2018

We may know a lot about the future of our democracy after this meeting.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
66. Yep, Trump is trying to take America down anyway he can. I hope the idiot factor of the US
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:48 PM
May 2018

is listening, but I've really concluded they are too stupid, ignorant or willfully ignorant to comprehend anything.

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
50. Oh, fwiw, Coates and Kelly will be there as well:
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:32 PM
May 2018

NBC News:

Sarah Sanders tells NBC News Pres. Trump will meet at 3pm today at the WH w/ Dep AG Rosenstein, DNI Coates, FBI Dir. Wray and Kelly to “discuss their response to congressional requests on a range of topics.”
12:51 PM - May 21, 2018



?s=20

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
60. Wouldn't be surprised, eh janx? I was just thinking, a nice headline would be
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:43 PM
May 2018

Republican President Donald Trump Summons Obama-appointed Intel Heads to Meeting at WH”

oh wait

LOSER45 appointed every single one of these gentlemen, as I recall?



janx

(24,128 posts)
70. YES, he did. But this:
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018
“discuss their response to congressional requests on a range of topics.”


sounds like real pressure to divulge classified info., the info that Nunes has been trying like hell to get his hands on--and failing.

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
75. YES - it's a distinct possibility, j, and maybe the only one -
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:58 PM
May 2018

————-standing by ———-

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
57. Not good.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:42 PM
May 2018

Why do I get a feeling this is a set-up against Rosenstein?

That they will pressure him to end the investigation ?

I am hoping he stands firm and if there is any arm-twisting, he will let the press know.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
65. I'd wear a wire. Or two.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:47 PM
May 2018

I would absolutely wear a wire. There has to be some legal loophole way they can do that.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
71. To convince Rosenstein and Wray the error of their ways?
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

I spect kelly will go along with trump, but I'm not sure about coates. Both know right from wrong, question is will they practice right.

janx

(24,128 posts)
79. Political pressure.
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:00 PM
May 2018

This is entirely political. One, he wants to make sure they investigate the FBI "plant" in his campaign; two, he wants them to turn over classified into to Nunes et al.

His base is salivating, I'm sure.

Chickensoup

(650 posts)
82. We hereby demand that
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

you be charged with abstraction
of justice.
One has to be totally blind not see
your guilt. You will be brought down
no doubt.

unblock

(52,115 posts)
83. but donnie said bill clinton bumping into loretta lynch on the tarmac was a horrible crime
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

but when donnie himself (not his spouse) uses the powers of his office (they're meeting in his office, literally) to talk with two key people who are involved in an ongoing investigation of him and his cronies, oh, that's just peachy.

as far as anyone knows, bill clinton (not hillary) talked to loretta lynch about nothing related to any investigation, but donnie of course went on a lock her up screed.


but when donnie does it, of course he's in the right and everyone else... oh look, he thinks everyone else should be locked up again!

see how that works? no matter which side of a topic he's on, it's always the other side who should be locked up....

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
87. Somebody's phone will either be set to record, or will have been hacked
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:22 PM
May 2018

so the IC/LE can record what goes on.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
86. When will this ever end?
Mon May 21, 2018, 03:19 PM
May 2018

The brinksmanship of corruption has completely defined this administration from inauguration day forward. All they do is lie, distort, deflect and lie some more. Meanwhile, the rule of law toils away in the shadows, never defending itself, simply doing its business while the most visible and powerful government official systemically attempts to destroy the institutions it represents.

Yonnie3

(17,419 posts)
98. Acosta says they are done meeting
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:09 PM
May 2018

Let the leaks begin!





Jim Acosta

@Acosta

Rosenstein and Wray have left the White House after their meeting with Trump.
4:04 PM - May 21, 2018
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