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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:59 PM May 2018

Have we finally reached that long, dreaded "constitutional crisis"?

We knew it was coming. We just didn't know when? Are we finally at that point?

Or could Mitch McConnell resolve it all with one vote on the Senate floor?

Up 'til now, he has shrugged and said that he saw "no need for it at this time"?

Is it time now to bring up the bill, supported by Democrats and Republicans, to protect the Special Counsel from being fired by a President that is being investigated?

If we cannot succeed in that, then we may be very close to the heart of the crisis?

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Have we finally reached that long, dreaded "constitutional crisis"? (Original Post) kentuck May 2018 OP
McConnell wants Trump to fire Mueller Zorro May 2018 #1
The only thing that makes sense is that there are members of Congress up to their Grammy23 May 2018 #4
Long since, in my opinion Hekate May 2018 #2
Yes. NT enough May 2018 #5
The president is head of the executive branch quartz007 May 2018 #3
VOTE Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #6

Zorro

(15,724 posts)
1. McConnell wants Trump to fire Mueller
Mon May 21, 2018, 09:17 PM
May 2018

It would help obscure his and his party's own criminality. That's why he isn't lifting a finger to protect Mueller.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
4. The only thing that makes sense is that there are members of Congress up to their
Mon May 21, 2018, 09:40 PM
May 2018

Armpits in alligators in this saga. No other answers make sense why they sit on their hands and do nothing while tRump is lining his pockets. We see another bombshell revealed and we assume that this will be IT. Now they will take action, we think. Only they don’t.

When this all gets revealed so we know who all the players are, it will make Watergate look like a Sunday School picnic. This is serious and we need good people to step up and do the right thing. How much longer will we pretend like things are normal ? I am trying to hold on to a thread of hope and optimism since that is my normal demeanor. But damn. This is getting harder every.single.day. 😕 This is like nothing I’ve Ever seen in my 69 years on this earth.
 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
3. The president is head of the executive branch
Mon May 21, 2018, 09:33 PM
May 2018

All people nominated by the president and confirmed by senate in DOJ, DOS, FBI, Treasury, Commerce, DHS, etc work directly at pleasure of the president., and he/she can fire any of them without OK from congress or the judicial branch. OTOH employees hired through civil service are more protected from indiscriminate firings.

Our constitution says the 3 branches are equal and separate.

If Congress passes laws protecting such people, that could cause a constitutional crisis and will end up in SCOTUS.

If he has not fired Mueller in over a year, it seems unlikely he would fire him directly now. If he did fire Mueller, it would open him up for impeachment by congress which is the only method spelled out in constitution on removal of a sitting president.

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