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The same people who LOVE whitesplaining Dr. King to us HATE when we protest like him (Original Post) EffieBlack May 2018 OP
Effie. Let's do this. Sporting event. Kneel together sharedvalues May 2018 #1
Effie? sharedvalues May 2018 #30
K&R yes of course but excuse me HOW have I never seen this photo before. HOW. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #2
K & R to Effie Wwcd May 2018 #3
When MLK was alive: "MLK is a communist, a radical, a terrorist" After MLK dies: "Be like MLK" ck4829 May 2018 #4
Yep, they hate hate HATED him when he was alive. Iggo May 2018 #5
We saw the same thing with Muhammad Ali EffieBlack May 2018 #7
Yes. And then claim he was a Republican! treestar May 2018 #11
+1 uponit7771 May 2018 #29
It's not going to fare well for the NFL on this bullshit MrScorpio May 2018 #6
True Me. May 2018 #8
Yes!! And then there's this --- RandomAccess May 2018 #9
Thanks for sharing. alwaysinasnit May 2018 #10
Yes, and add this..... Heartstrings May 2018 #12
Is this an OP somewhere? ProudLib72 May 2018 #13
I sure could turn it into an op.... Heartstrings May 2018 #14
This is everything EffieBlack May 2018 #15
Posted..... Heartstrings May 2018 #16
You think? saidsimplesimon May 2018 #20
k&r Starry Messenger May 2018 #17
Oh give it a rest. No white people who believe in MLK are screaming about NFL players kneeling Azathoth May 2018 #18
You obviously haven't been paying attention EffieBlack May 2018 #22
Let's organize a kneel-in. Baseball game? Outside NFL stadium? sharedvalues May 2018 #23
And once again, no white person who believes in MLK is onboard with the Trump nonsense Azathoth May 2018 #24
The non-violent protests advocated by MLK cyclonefence May 2018 #27
You're right EffieBlack May 2018 #28
Yes! spicysista May 2018 #19
I actually saw this billboard when I was a kid ... kwassa May 2018 #21
That photo brought tears to my eyes Mountain Mule May 2018 #25
Thought-provoking post! flibbitygiblets May 2018 #26

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
1. Effie. Let's do this. Sporting event. Kneel together
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:04 PM
May 2018

If you pick a sporting event and organize a few people, I will come with you. We will kneel right next to each other during the anthem.

You choose time and place.


(Subject to my ability to get there. Can’t travel as easily as I used to.)


DU meetup????

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
2. K&R yes of course but excuse me HOW have I never seen this photo before. HOW.
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:07 PM
May 2018

The woman with her hands on her purse. Chills. So much power throughout.

ck4829

(35,062 posts)
4. When MLK was alive: "MLK is a communist, a radical, a terrorist" After MLK dies: "Be like MLK"
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:15 PM
May 2018

That should be a telling statement in and of itself.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
7. We saw the same thing with Muhammad Ali
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:28 PM
May 2018

When he refused to be inducted into the Army, he was a traitor, a militant, hated America, etc. By the time he died, everyone loved him for being a hero even though they couldn’t remember why he was a hero.

And then, weeks after he died, they went right back to viciously attacking Colin Kaepernack.

But we know that, in 30 years, the people behaving so disgracefully now will all be pretending to have been on the right side of history today.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Yes. And then claim he was a Republican!
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:57 PM
May 2018

Deplorables do not have consistent arguments. They shift as the occasion requires.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
6. It's not going to fare well for the NFL on this bullshit
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:28 PM
May 2018

Not well at all.

Yep, trample all over the 1st Amendment in order to coddle racists... That is some fucked up shit.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
18. Oh give it a rest. No white people who believe in MLK are screaming about NFL players kneeling
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:39 PM
May 2018

Trump and his white nationalist base aren't "whitesplaining" anything -- they openly despise MLK, despite any perfunctory lip service to the contrary.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
22. You obviously haven't been paying attention
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:04 PM
May 2018

And FYI, pretty much everybody “believes in Dr. King - after all, he isn’t Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or Jesus Christ. The issue is that plenty of white people who claim to love and revere Dr. King feel entitled to lecture black people about how we’re protesting all wrong and then turn around and defy everything he stood for. And they aren’t all white nationalists. Some of them, in fact, are right here on DU.

So, no, I’m not going to “give it a rest.” If you have a problem with anything I have to say, you’re certainly free to put me on “Ignore.”

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
23. Let's organize a kneel-in. Baseball game? Outside NFL stadium?
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:17 PM
May 2018

I’m in. All kinds of people - of all races - together. DU event.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
24. And once again, no white person who believes in MLK is onboard with the Trump nonsense
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:37 PM
May 2018

You're free to deliberately misinterpret "believe" in the literal sense, but I think it's pretty clear to everyone that I meant it as shorthand for "those who genuinely believe in what MLK advocated and stood for." It's true that some people sincerely argue that radical and divisive protests (e.g. some of the BLM protests) aren't consistent with Dr. King's message, but kneeling at a freaking NFL game doesn't fall into that category. The only people who are worked up about NFL protests are people who are obviously opposed to what MLK stood for, despite any perfunctory lip service they pay to him.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
27. The non-violent protests advocated by MLK
Wed May 23, 2018, 11:34 PM
May 2018

were considered "radical and divisive" in their day. That's why peaceful marches were met with attack dogs and firehoses.

I think a great many people, including many people who would say they believe in MLK's message, consider kneeling during the national anthem as radical and divisive because they honestly believe that the gesture is meant as disrespect to veterans and mom's apple pie, not as a peaceful, MLK-endorsed demonstration against injustice. The gesture has been demonized by the RW and to some extent in MSM when they give air time to people who do not understand what the gesture means.

And at least part of why they do not understand what the gesture means--aside from being told lies by the likes of Fox News--is that they are not "woke" (god I hope I'm using that term properly) to the fact of police murder of black men. It is my belief that they do not want to acknowledge this fact because it upsets their white-privileged view of the cops as the good guys you turn to for help when a black person appears somewhere you don't think she belongs.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
28. You're right
Wed May 23, 2018, 11:39 PM
May 2018

And that sentiment is prevalent among many right here on DU, regardless how “woke” they think they may be.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
21. I actually saw this billboard when I was a kid ...
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:55 PM
May 2018

or one exactly like it. We were on a trip to Florida on spring vacation, and it was next to I 75 in the South.


Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
25. That photo brought tears to my eyes
Wed May 23, 2018, 11:07 PM
May 2018

The racism still so prevalent and embraced by the Orange horror of a president* is heart breaking.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
26. Thought-provoking post!
Wed May 23, 2018, 11:07 PM
May 2018

Thanks for the insights, yet again. I feel like every time I read one of your posts, I "get it" a little more.

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