Pelosi on LIVE CNN Town Hall, said impeachment isn't on the agenda

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Despite 70% of Democrats wanting impeachment. #PelosiTownHall

Edited to add video. BTW, this post was meant to summarize what was happening at the event in real time, not to attack, so calm down (please ).

[manor321]

1. It's a sad cruel joke

Democrats think they have to be supine to get votes. It is sickening.

[Eko]

4. Its a sad cruel joke

that people mistake the rule of law for weakness.

[OliverQ]

13. I'm not saying I agree, but my guess is it's not to get votes, it's to limit the

enthusiasm from Republicans. If Dems loudly proclaim they're primary agenda is to impeach trump, it will excite the Republican base to get out and vote to keep Democrats out of power.

My guess is if Dems do gain the House, she'll bring it up.

[Dem2]

35. Correct n/t

[mercuryblues]

36. That is what I think too

The republicans are going to make impeachment their central campaign strategy. By saying this she has enabled the Dems to go on the offense with policy and expose republicans as utterly bereft and craven in that.

They won't be able to be moderate because of trump and they won't be able to be far right because their policies are proving to be chaotic, repulsive and ruinous to the average American's wallet.

Force Rs to defend trump and his failures, while showing they have the policies and ideas to help the American people.

[pnwmom]

44. No. It's realistic. Any impeachment drive now would inevitably fail

because we couldn't control the process and the outcome is certain -- we are a minority and we would lose.

And if we failed now, we wouldn't get a second shot, no matter what Mueller's investigation revealed.

[PoliticAverse]

2. Until Mueller completes his investigation why would it be? n/t

[elleng]

3. Which she should explain CLEARLY, of course.

[EffieBlack]

16. She's explained it several times. Some people aren't interested in hearing her

[Wwcd]

27. Because she's Pelosi, Of course.

Impeachment papers have actually been introduced by Dems, & quickly buried by Paul Ryan.

There will be no impeachment of Trump if ya don't vote Dem in the midterms.

That's it.

[ismnotwasm]

33. I know

I get so tired of this bullshit.

[elleng]

38. I haven't heard it this time;

I don't listen to everything she says every day. Has she connected 'impeachment isn't on the agenda' to Mueller's work?

[pnwmom]

45. She brought up Mueller again in her statement today.

And she is correct: impeachment isn't on the "policy agenda" the way fixing Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the environment, and all the other policy issues should be.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-trump/index.html

"I do not think that impeachment is a policy agenda," she said.

The California Democrat pointed to the ongoing special counsel investigation led by former FBI Director Robert Mueller, saying everyone should "let it take its course" before judging the outcome, and noting the difficult, divisive nature of moving to oust a president.

"Impeachment is, to me, divisive," Pelosi said. "Again, if the facts are there, if the facts are there, then this would have to be bipartisan to go forward. But if it is viewed as partisan, it will divide the country, and I just don't think that's what we should do."

[elleng]

47. Thanks

[Wounded Bear]

6. This...

All politics is local. Candidates should run on issued germane to their districts.

Hyping the impeachment train will only motivate Repubs to come out and vote.

Polling suggests that large majorities want the ivestigations to continue. Smaller majorities want impeachment.

[lunatica]

39. Pelosi isn't running for re-election

She’s running to be the Speaker of the House if the Democrats take the majority in the next election.

But I’m sure she doesn’t want Pence as President. I know I sure don’t either.

[Takket]

30. Correct. There is nothing to impeach on but rumors right now

[mcar]

5. Don't get distracted

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210649921

[saidsimplesimon]

7. Of course it's not on the table, now.

I will do all I can to give Speaker Pelosi her majority. If she fails to act then, shame of us.

[Kingofalldems]

8. Gotta wait for Mueller.

[ecstatic]

10. I get it, but he's dangerously unfit regardless of Mueller's

conclusions. Have we forgotten? I'm hoping this is just strategy and not the actual gameplan because I truly can't take 4 years of this.

[PoliticAverse]

17. Well hope Democrats retake the House in the Nov elections. n/t

before the Nov elections.

[TheRealNorth]

25. That's what the Section 4 of the 25th Ammendment is for

It's on Pence and the cabinet to make that call.

[BigmanPigman]

9. She said that two weeks ago.

She is smart and knows what she is doing. Impeachment as an issue would be playing into the GOP's hands for the midterms. She wants to focus on Dem issues as a whole party. Impeachment would push middle of the road voters to stay home or vote GOP. 58% of Americans want Mueller's investigation to go forward and that number keeps growing. She wants Dems to focus on healthcare, taxes, infrastructure, and things that will improve people's lives.

[mcar]

11. Exactly!

[spooky3]

14. And she knows that they don't have the votes in the House

OR the Senate. It would come across as political posturing.

And I say this as someone who signed Steyer’s petition. No question Trump is unfit, unethical, corrupt, and dangerous, etc. But unfortunately our system gives corrupt Republicans the ability to prevent impeachment.

For. Now.

[oasis]

18. Good.Dems need to put any impeachment talk on the back burner. nt

[kimbutgar]

22. I wish I could thumbs up you for your comment

[Wwcd]

28. K & R your post.

[CentralMass]

12. The Democrats lower the bar every time they sweep republican malfeasance under the rug.

[EffieBlack]

15. Bernie Sanders said the same thing last weekend

But that’s probably different... because Bernie or something.

[Iliyah]

19. Yep.

Also, what helped made Pres. Nixon finally resign was his party, the Republican Party.

[EffieBlack]

20. Chasing impeachment now is stupid

[TheRealNorth]

26. +1

You need 2/3rds of the Senate to vote guilty in an impeachment, so let's wait and see what Mueller can prove before we go there, because we are not going to get any Republicans to go along unless the case is good (and even then, it may not matter to them).

[Wwcd]

29. Why yes he surely did Effie. Bernie agrees with Pelosi.

See!

[BlueTsunami2018]

21. Smart move. Impeachment canNOT be the message.

Unless you want the GOP as energized and enthusiastic as we. Run on the issues, point out the corruption, fuckng WIN.

[Kirk Lover]

23. You can only pull the impeachment trigger once. I think we'll all know if and when the time

truly comes. I know there is JUST CAUSE for his ass to be gone now...but for now we wait.

[Xolodno]

24. Good. Saying you will bring up impeachment will drive the right in hordes to the polls.

Anyone who believes we should be running on this, lets play Texas Hold'm Poker, I could use some extra dough.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

31. It shouldn't be, at least not until after November.

The GOP will use the possibility of impeachment to stir up the base and encourage them to vote. There's no point in bringing it up until it is actually a reasonable possibility - which it won't be as long as the GOP holds the House.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

32. Nancy, your'e good

but not indispensable.

[Hekate]

34. "70% of Democrats" do not get to vote on impeachment. Congressmen do. Are they at the 70% mark?

Please do tell us all how Nancy Pelosi is supposed to conjure House votes out of thin air. Democrats are in the minority. How exactly is this going to work?

Nancy Pelosi tells the truth, no matter how unpalatable. GOTV and change the composition of the House and Senate. It is the only way.

[Lint Head]

37. If Bush and Cheney had been prosecuted I feel we would not be

in this dilemma. The decision to put things in the past, to not apply the law and let it work, has weakened the law and the will to use the law against a President who is inept and doing major damage to the fabric of our democratic republic.
There was plenty of evidence to do so.
[link:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prosecution_of_George_W._Bush_for_Murder|

[Buzz cook]

40. 219 votes in the house 67 in the senate.

Till we get that impeachment is a pipe dream.

[sunRISEnow]

41. Republicans are already using threat of impeachment for 2018 campaigns, as is Trump.

Pelosi is no fool.

[trueblue2007]

42. NANCY, IMPEACHMENT of Don the Traitor is ALWAYS ON THE TABLE !!!!

[EffieBlack]

48. Maybe for you, but not for a Congress that doesn't have the numbers

[canetoad]

43. Laurence Tribe

On impeachment, Rachel Maddow show a few days ago.

"You only get one shot at a President."

[pnwmom]

46. That's NOT what she said. Words matter.

She said it wasn't on the "policy agenda." And it's not. Raising the minimum wage is a policy. Fixing Medicare is a policy. Protecting the environment is a policy.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-trump/index.html

Impeaching DT isn't a policy. And it makes no sense to pursue it till Mueller has finished his work -- and we hopefully have a majority in at least the House.

"I do not think that impeachment is a policy agenda," she said.

The California Democrat pointed to the ongoing special counsel investigation led by former FBI Director Robert Mueller, saying everyone should "let it take its course" before judging the outcome, and noting the difficult, divisive nature of moving to oust a president.

"Impeachment is, to me, divisive," Pelosi said. "Again, if the facts are there, if the facts are there, then this would have to be bipartisan to go forward. But if it is viewed as partisan, it will divide the country, and I just don't think that's what we should do."