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Archae

(46,318 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:56 AM May 2018

Remember that white girl who posed as a black? She's back in the news...

Seems she's an outright crook also.

Fake black woman Rachel Dolezal now accused of welfare fraud — and the internet is roasting her hardcore

Rachel Dolezal, a former Washington State University instructor who was revealed to be biologically white after taking over the local branch of the NAACP, is facing welfare fraud charges.

Dolezal legally changed her name to Nkechi Diallo in 2016. She maintains that she is “spiritually” black and felt “awkward” in her white skin.

She’s now facing charges of 1st Degree Theft by Welfare Fraud, Perjury in the 2nd Degree, and False Verification for Public Assistance, reports KHQ.

She could face up to 15 years in prison on these charges.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/fake-black-woman-rachel-dolezal-now-accused-welfare-fraud-internet-roasting-hardcore/

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Remember that white girl who posed as a black? She's back in the news... (Original Post) Archae May 2018 OP
White "girl"? She's in her 40s. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #1
A woman is secure in their identity, and how she looks. Archae May 2018 #2
Would you have said 'boy' if it had been a male? leftstreet May 2018 #4
Yes. And I have referred to childish jerks (male) as a "boy." Archae May 2018 #14
'white boy' is a pretty common and acceptable term samir.g May 2018 #28
You can't call a woman a girl just because you *think* The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #8
Thank you. DURHAM D May 2018 #6
+ 1,000 greatauntoftriplets May 2018 #7
This. Cal Carpenter May 2018 #29
That whackadoodle has a Netflix documentary and a book IronLionZion May 2018 #3
Chances she does not have a clinical personality disorder, Hortensis May 2018 #13
I watched the entire thing... TCJ70 May 2018 #22
We need to stop talking about her. Race IS a social construct. ck4829 May 2018 #5
No she shouldn't be the way of the future JustAnotherGen May 2018 #9
Spot on. Tipperary May 2018 #11
Amen. nt Nay May 2018 #18
Except there needs to be some way to define it if we are to measure it Lee-Lee May 2018 #10
You realize she's just a grifter, right? Blue_Tires May 2018 #19
Yes. Exactly. Tipperary May 2018 #20
I posted this in the other thread about her Lee-Lee May 2018 #12
This has nothing to do with race. Archae May 2018 #15
Orange is the New White oasis May 2018 #16
Is she Wypipo? Tipperary May 2018 #17
She's more wypipo than the wypipo , nt stmac May 2018 #21
You are really into the whole "wypipo" thing, aren't you? ProudLib72 May 2018 #23
Yes, I find it fascinating. Tipperary May 2018 #24
IMHO she is on the wypipo appropriations committee ProudLib72 May 2018 #25
Very good! I like that. Tipperary May 2018 #26
For further edification (read: downright confusion) ProudLib72 May 2018 #27

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,679 posts)
1. White "girl"? She's in her 40s.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:58 AM
May 2018

I thought we'd got way past the bad old days when women were called "girls" until they became grandmothers. Rachel Dolezal is nuts but she's a nutty woman.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
2. A woman is secure in their identity, and how she looks.
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:00 AM
May 2018

A girl is not.

This female (how's that?) is a liar, pretender, and corrupt as hell.

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
4. Would you have said 'boy' if it had been a male?
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:03 AM
May 2018

Would you consider a male not secure in his identity and how he looks, a 'boy?'

Archae

(46,318 posts)
14. Yes. And I have referred to childish jerks (male) as a "boy."
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:49 AM
May 2018

Because they need to grow the fuck up.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,679 posts)
8. You can't call a woman a girl just because you *think*
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:11 AM
May 2018

she's insecure in her identity - which in the case of Dolezal has to do with race, not gender. An adult female is a woman, not a girl, period. Ever. Black men were and still are degraded by calling them boys. This is exactly the same.

IronLionZion

(45,430 posts)
3. That whackadoodle has a Netflix documentary and a book
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:01 AM
May 2018

I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of her Netflix movie. It sounds like some people actually bought her book.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Chances she does not have a clinical personality disorder,
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:21 AM
May 2018

or at very least have strong signs of, i.e, suffer from whackadoodlism, are not good at all. Apparently fairly high functioning in spite of it, though. Many are poor and alone.

Hard to imagine that if Trump hadn't been left a fortune his dismal, depraved future wouldn't have, of course, included welfare fraud.

ck4829

(35,062 posts)
5. We need to stop talking about her. Race IS a social construct.
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:03 AM
May 2018

Nothing biological or natural about racial categorization.

Rachel handled it very wrong, but she should be the future in many ways how race is handled. We need to decouple race from being an ascribed/inborn status, not doing so will give the alt right, far right, and systems of both overt and systematic racism another victory.

Race is as natural/biological/divine as class or gender... and it will not be with Rachel, but we do need to find ways to let society see this reality.

JustAnotherGen

(31,812 posts)
9. No she shouldn't be the way of the future
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:15 AM
May 2018

My dad's mother could have passed and instead chose to be who she was (born in 1898).

A black woman could not have pretended to be white. I simply can't 'fake it'. Telling me I can - would be stupid and ignorant.

And you don't have to be black to raise black children (my mom is white). That's her other bullshit excuse for this game. You are being played. Point blank - you are being played.

Rachel is an insane nut bag crazy lady and I'm so sick of folks coming to the "black woman's" defense ONLY when the black woman is in black face. (Not targeted at you just in general - watching this absurd bullshit play out a few years ago).

I said it - and I'm not taking it back. She's a minstrel show and knows NOTHING about my life experience and should be SHUNNED by all of America for being a grifting, fake, phoney baloney piece of shit.

As for 'finding a way' -

It is totally incumbent on White Americans to change within. Richard Spencer? Change Within. No black person or Latino or Asian in America is responsible for a supposed grown as man's 'internal change'.

The responsibility lies entirely with the dominant culture . . . for now. 40 years from now? Might be a different story.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
10. Except there needs to be some way to define it if we are to measure it
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:16 AM
May 2018

as well as if we are going to use it to set benchmarks or measure diversity.

And that is before we look at things like school admissions, scholarships, etc that are set aside for minority applicants.

If race is a construct than all measurements of diversity, racial impact of policies, discrimination, etc all are arbitrary as well.

There is a scientific way to measure your genetic background and your racial background. We can tell if you have genetic makeup from Africa or not, if you are Native American or not.

If it’s all a construct than what’s to stop anyone from claiming they are Native American and taking a scholarship set aside for Native Americans? What’s to stop a white person from declaring they are black or Hispanic and that their business is now a minority owned business to get the advantages given in some government contracts intended to help real minority owned businesses?

We can’t have any of the programs intended to help eliminate the racial disparities or counteract centuries of white supremacy if we don’t have a way to actually define race. We can’t even measure if racial discrimination exists on a micro or macro scale unless we can actually define what the racial differences are. Letting people just declare whatever race regardless of their actual background makes any of that impossible.

Maybe once we’ve achieved a decent level of true equality in society we can start trying to erase the notion of race from our society. But not before then, if we ever get there. Because trying that now will actually just do more to empower more white supremacy.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. You realize she's just a grifter, right?
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:58 PM
May 2018

At Howard University she was 'white' and a few years later as a starving artist she was 'Native American'

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
12. I posted this in the other thread about her
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:19 AM
May 2018

6One thing about the kinds of deception like she did is that it very, very rarely happens in a vacuum.

What I mean by that is when you find the person lying about who they are- be it their education, their job, their military service, or in the rare cases like this their race- that is almost never the only fraud or deception they engage in an almost always there is another layer that is harmful to others or society and/or that is criminal.

Seems she isn’t an exception to that rule.

People will say “it’s not harmful” when the first deception is revealed about who a person fundamentally is, and maybe the first thing you notice wasn’t. But almost always on these types when you peel back the layers you find more and more that is.

As an example I haven’t found a single person who lied about their military service who also wasn’t engaged in some sort of deeper fraud or criminal act at that time or around it.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
15. This has nothing to do with race.
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:08 PM
May 2018

It has everything to do with a woman who wants to game "the system" because she's a liar, and corrupt.

Simple.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
23. You are really into the whole "wypipo" thing, aren't you?
Fri May 25, 2018, 02:29 PM
May 2018

But don't forget that there are subgenres of wypipo like "Becky".

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
24. Yes, I find it fascinating.
Fri May 25, 2018, 02:37 PM
May 2018

Even more fascinating to learn there are “subgenres.” Still, no one has answered my question as to whether she is wypipo. Enquiring minds want to know.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
26. Very good! I like that.
Fri May 25, 2018, 02:47 PM
May 2018

Poor lil wypipo wanna be blapipo. I read that her son, who is actually AA, is not really pleased with her appropriation nonsense. Kind of sad.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
27. For further edification (read: downright confusion)
Fri May 25, 2018, 02:54 PM
May 2018
Where "Becky" Comes From, And Why It's Not Racist, Explained: https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/where-becky-comes-from-and-why-its-not-racist-expla-1822522530

Maybe the comments section will provide some clarity.
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