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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:01 PM May 2018

Trump admin announces a trio of executive orders that will make it easier to fire federal employees




The Trump administration announced a trio of executive orders that will make it easier for federal agencies to fire employees — a move officials say is not in response to Trump and his allies' belief that some career officials are sabotaging his presidency

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The country needs to fightback and fightback now because the next stage is to stuff it full of Trump bootlickers.
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Trump admin announces a trio of executive orders that will make it easier to fire federal employees (Original Post) sunonmars May 2018 OP
"A move officials say is not in response to Trump and his allies' belief that some career officials" HopeAgain May 2018 #1
This is exactly what Erdogan did in Turkey, fired thousands of Govt employees and stuffed it full sunonmars May 2018 #2
Why does Buzzfeed feel compelled to repeat that hogwash? gratuitous May 2018 #4
Only needs one actually. A mandatory loyalty oath to Trump Freethinker65 May 2018 #3
That was my guess Lindsay May 2018 #5
Can there really be anyone left in this country who doesn't hate this guy? smirkymonkey May 2018 #6
Only the FC's love him kimbutgar May 2018 #7
I think the civil servants murielm99 May 2018 #8
That's What I Was Wondering About Me. May 2018 #10
that is largely a myth grantcart May 2018 #12
With each passing day, I hate that POS even more. November 2020 cannot arrive soon enough. LonePirate May 2018 #9
K&R.. get the news out. Cha May 2018 #11

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. "A move officials say is not in response to Trump and his allies' belief that some career officials"
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:04 PM
May 2018

Sounds plausible

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
2. This is exactly what Erdogan did in Turkey, fired thousands of Govt employees and stuffed it full
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:06 PM
May 2018

of fervent AKP supporters with no experience other than loyalty to him.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Why does Buzzfeed feel compelled to repeat that hogwash?
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:08 PM
May 2018

This is what I've been talking about the last several days. Republicans can tell the most bald-faced lie imaginable, and media outlets just parrot it without the least trace of skepticism.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Can there really be anyone left in this country who doesn't hate this guy?
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:12 PM
May 2018

Because he has fucked over just about everyone.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
8. I think the civil servants
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:23 PM
May 2018

may have ways to fight back. They have union agreements and such.

I still think 45 is poking the wrong bears. The CIA, FBI and federal employees may find ways to bring him down. They were not sabotaging his Presidency, but they may do so now.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. that is largely a myth
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:25 PM
May 2018

CIA officers and FBI agents cannot join federal unions

Where there are unions the effectiveness of the local steward may be non existent or worse may have personal reasons for trying to accommodate a bad supervisor.

The original administrative decision by the supervisor almost always goes unchallenged but an a determined employee can mount a legal appeal that will land in an independent court but the problem is that the employee is usually being harassed for issues that aren't on paper. For example an employee complains about bad actions of a supervisor but is eventually disciplined because they were involved in a traffic accident. It is very difficult to get the court to accept the other bad actions as being part of the actual event.

Finally some agencies have no recourse. The Republicans wrecked vengeance on the TSA as part of their agreement in allowing it go ahead.

TSA employees do not receive any step increase in their position each year. They are in a band and will stay in that band forever unless they are able to qualify for a higher position.

TSA employees were originally not allowed to join a union. They are now but local union officers are not given time to actually do their job. An airport that has 700 members, for example, doesn't have any fully dedicated union officers. Any other agency would have 3-4 positions where the union officers would get either 50% or 100% of their time dedicated to union activity, the most important of which is challenging management discipline actions.

For example should a federal employee lose their job because they get a DUI, even though their job doesn't involve driving a car? A TSA security officer can.

There is no appeal system for TSA officers, everything that is appealed has to eventually go to the head of the agency.

TSA officers are not classified as Law Enforcement Officers, nor are they even classified at the much lower level of "security officers".

When Gerardo Hernandez was shot in the line of duty as a TSO at LAX and lay bleeding for 33 minutes he was not covered by any provision in his contract that provided for compensation for dying in the line of duty. It would literally take an act of Congress to make that happen. He earned $ 44,000 per year and regardless of how many years he served would never see an increase at that band.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
9. With each passing day, I hate that POS even more. November 2020 cannot arrive soon enough.
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:37 PM
May 2018

Pence is no different so unless Mueller nails them both, we will need an election to put an end to their devastation of America.

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