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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:04 PM May 2018

NFL: White Owners vs. Black Players

So, the owners decide that players can't kneel during the Anthem. What will they do if black players ignore their decision, instead of saying, "Yassuh, Boss?"

Without the 70% of players who are people of color, there is no NFL. I think it may be time for the players to say, "Enough!"

That's what I think.

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NFL: White Owners vs. Black Players (Original Post) MineralMan May 2018 OP
I agree. I think they should go ahead and OldHippieChick May 2018 #1
Are we back to slavery? vishnura May 2018 #2
evidently the players "union" is ok with the no kneel dec ision nt msongs May 2018 #3
Where did you get that information... Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #10
You on to a issue that will Wellstone ruled May 2018 #4
We'll see what happens. MineralMan May 2018 #5
My neighbor is a Wellstone ruled May 2018 #9
This won't ever happen but... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2018 #6
and those black players making million $$$ game checks can tell their families they don't need it? Baclava May 2018 #14
White fans are the key. They are the profit source sharedvalues May 2018 #7
Not really. No black players, no NFL games. MineralMan May 2018 #8
Supply and demand though sharedvalues May 2018 #16
I could be wrong pennylane100 May 2018 #13
White team mates dugog55 May 2018 #11
I don't know. I'm not a football fan, so I don't pay a lot of MineralMan May 2018 #12
A majority of NFL fans support the new policy madville May 2018 #15

Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
10. Where did you get that information...
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:24 PM
May 2018

This is their "official" statement from the website:


NFLPA Statement on New Anthem Policy



The NFL chose to not consult the union in the development of this new “policy.” NFL players have shown their patriotism through their social activism, their community service, in support of our military and law enforcement and yes, through their protests to raise awareness about the issues they care about.

The vote by NFL club CEOs today contradicts the statements made to our player leadership by Commissioner Roger Goodell and the Chairman of the NFL’s Management Council John Mara about the principles, values and patriotism of our League.

Our union will review the new “policy” and challenge any aspect of it that is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. You on to a issue that will
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:13 PM
May 2018

only get "Butt Ugly" in the next few weeks,as Try Out Camps open. Jerry Johnson will wish he never went there.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. My neighbor is a
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:23 PM
May 2018

retired NFL er. His Old Team Mates and others are making calls and texting their contacts inside team operations in order to get this changed. And they are going right at Goodell.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,664 posts)
6. This won't ever happen but...
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:15 PM
May 2018

I wonder what would happen if the black players simply sat out the first game in protest.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
14. and those black players making million $$$ game checks can tell their families they don't need it?
Sat May 26, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

Never going to happen - they are in it for the money, just like everybody else.

It's a business for players too


PITTSBURGH -- Le'Veon Bell turned down a contract offer that would've paid him more over the next two years than he can make off of consecutive franchise tags

The Pittsburgh Steelers offered their star running back $30 million in the first two years of the proposed deal, according to the NFL Network.

Bell rejected the deal to play on a one-year, $12,120,000 franchise tag deal. If Bell were to play on a second franchise tag contract in the 2018 season it would be for no less than $14,544,000, giving him a $26,664,000 haul over two seasons.

http://www.pennlive.com/steelers/index.ssf/2017/07/steelers_leveon_bell_contract_1.html

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
7. White fans are the key. They are the profit source
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:18 PM
May 2018

Which is why we should gather a whole lot of DUers, black and white, and kneel together someplace to demonstrate we stand with the players.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
8. Not really. No black players, no NFL games.
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:21 PM
May 2018

It's pretty simple, really. I'm not a football fan, so I won't be joining you in a useless demonstration by fans.

This is all going to be up to the players. Without them, there's no game at all.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
16. Supply and demand though
Sat May 26, 2018, 09:00 PM
May 2018

The players don’t have a ton of leverage because there is a huge supply of players wanting to be in the NFL. The only way they have leverage is if they band together, as in the strikes in the past. (And the NFL Union is the weakest of all the major sports, in part due to short nfl careers compared to baseball and basketball.)

On the other hand, the NFL wants any additional cent of profit, so losing fans hurts.

Fans are the key. Unless the players’ union can do something together (and after the last CBA negotiation and the concussion settlement, that seems unlikely.)

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
13. I could be wrong
Sat May 26, 2018, 02:48 PM
May 2018

but I believe the fans include great number that would either put the sport before the cause or are just too uninformed to understand what is at stake.

dugog55

(296 posts)
11. White team mates
Sat May 26, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

Where are the white players in all this? Certainly they can see the problem facing the Black Community. Are they not just as socially responsible as the Black players? They should all stand together, then the team owners and the NFL would have no recourse of punishment against them. I will be disappointed if entire teams do not stand together on this issue.

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