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Civic Justice

(870 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 08:27 AM May 2018

It's time to fix our own GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESS in America & stop acting like we control the world

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Democracy must be built by and upon "Truths", those faced, presented, exposed, disclosed and the truths lived. it is not something that the "faint of heart can live nor achieve". Democracy can only be had by those strong enough to build and create and support it. Most can't even support and promote the simplest of its principles, which is Equality in All Things of Human Presence of Being and the Humanity of Living...based on the premise of Full Circle Civil and Civic Equality.


Our overbearing and immediate need and task is to fix our own GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESS and Civil and Civic society in America! We must know the seriousness of it, especially so today, when we have a Russian Backed Organization Controlling Our Office of the Presidency and the Republican Congress, and we have the audacity to be silent and pretend we are the controllers of N. & S. Koreans business and policy.

Its far past the time as Americans that 'WE" stop swallowing the incessant rhetoric which is of "Imperialist Propaganda, by design" and get busy on fixing our own Democracy to be the Democracy we want it to be, and address the Elephant(s) that stomp across every aspect of our Nation Society and its Systems....

(1) "ETHNIC BIAS",

(2) "AVARICE HEART DRIVEN GREED" AND "OVERT RACISM",

(3) "ECONOMIC DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF THE POOR WHITE AND MINORITIES",

(4) "THE ECONOMIC TREASON AGAINST AMERICAN PEOPLE BY AMERICAN BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY PERSONS AND THEIR ADMINISTRATION",

(5) "REPUBLICAN LED POLITICAL TREASON AND ASSAULT UPON OUR GOVERNMENT AND ITS SYSTEMS"


(6) STOP STOMPING AROUND LIKE WE ARE IMPERIALIST WORLD CONTROLLERS"
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Start with learning the value basis and meaning of our United State Constitution Preamble


We the people, should take time and read "THE PREAMBLE" OF OUR 50 RESPECTIVE STATES. and focus on making our In State Politicians respect it and live up to it.

After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 State Constitutions

"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." - William Penn

Do not cast votes for politician's who's stand, words and position do not fit in accord with the State Constitution they hail from, because it is evident they do not know the premise their state is founded upon, nor the respect the Preamble accords to the people and governance of the state. Far too many politicians, especially REPUBLICAN have positions that violate their own States Preamble, which outlines what its Constitution is designed to promote, support and protect.
This act of Party Line Politic's has damaged the nation and insulted the premise and basis of function of our Congress. We the people, "did not knowing and willingly desire to elect "puppets" to be mastered by the Speaker of the House, nor by the Chairman of the Senate. They are to represent the State, honor its State Constitution and Accord itself to the respectful honoring of the "United States Constitution".

Nothing in those documents infer the aim and intent to disenfranchise the people, nor deny to the people the accourtments that promote public welfare of state, community and citizens within those states. (That means, to promote and support the well being of citizenry, which involves support and protections to maintain fair business and fair policy, that protects the people and the state, it means a system of general fruitful education of its people, and the concerns to support programs and provisions for and of the health of the people, the care of the young and the aged, and to help prosper those who are of working age in their efforts of contribution to building a better society. )....

We need to stop electing people who tell in their campaigning what type of "tyrannical being they will be", we need to stop electing people who campaign based on "attack posture and mentality", and we need to stop electing people, who have no concept or concern that their "congressional votes are not their to make alone, they are to vote the voice and representation of the people", not their own personal dictates upon and over the people.

I've said it before... and I'll say it again... We need to promote "CIVICS EDUCATION AS A FIRST PRIORITY IN OUR SCHOOLS": and stand with all our force of support to ensure that it is a consistent programming, through all the years of their educational grooming. (( Bob Graham has long championed a push for Civic Education to be Returned to Our Schools. ))

"" If we want to fix American we have to start at these levels of Education, and move back to what we once knew, and education our young in what is American Democracy and Teach the Civics, to education people how to live in a Civic system as civil beings in a Democracy.

Many people have no idea of what is the branches of Government, how the structure is designed, nor how education, work, industry and even have lost how to understand the responsibility of our financial markets are to function in a Democracy, that provides elements of "free markets". People do not understand, that a Free Market, only exist when it functions within Regulatory Governance. Many have lost even the awareness to know or understand that Democracy cannot exist nor continue without Regulatory Governance. It is “core in the foundational premise" to the stability of Democracy. It infers "Responsibility", to and for the Civic Nature of Our Democracy. This is the nature of 'Governance that was long established with the Declaration of Independence to be and become a Democracy, and the establishment of the Constitution was and is a Civic System, which advises us how to be and become a better democracy.

Civics helped teach American people as to how to understand their place in society, how to value the elements that make them good civic citizens. It emphasized the benefit of Education for the better of society, not as a sole aim and goal of "self enrichment by profession". It taught people the value of "contribution". People were then not taught to pursue a career just because of high net gain of money, it taught people to value career aspiration to be one who contributes to the betterment of society. There was no crash course madness methods of gaining a Degree Title for the sake of status and high pay. It was for the higher learning, to be a better equipped individual to promote and contribute to society. ''




What Do We Want... "matters much"

We can't get what we want, with the frail and fragile timid minds we've been groomed to wallow in, where we can't face the "hard truths and the actual realism within our society"... We've become a people, who think hiding the blood and gore of tragedy is suppose to make us think we are above it all, when tragedy only escalates, because we refuse to see it in its raw form and raw presentations. Thus so, it to us seem and become like fiction, as if it does not really exist. All the while it multiplies by the days and invade every aspect of life. when we can face the raw realism in its raw presentation, that alone may well be enough to "open our eyes and mind" to move beyond denials. Rather than pretend we are so elite and so proper, while all around us tragedy mounts more and more by the days, and we do all we can to avoid facing the realism of it. No... we need to show the real horror of the atrocities of death, by guns, vehicle accidents, individual slaughter each other and all the vile things we do in our society. When we see it, and face it, then and only then can we take it to heart to actually stand and do something to stop it. But, as long as we live in "denial by self blinding omissions", we delude ourselves, and continue to pretend its an 'anomaly" as if its not a common everyday reality of which it is. We try to "sanatize everything" to avoid seeking the "real truths"... and It only perpetuate the continuation of ignorance of vile that touches every citizen and their communities. No more of this Pretense, of "Oh, this is an anomaly for "my" community, when it is exactly the "my"communities for each of us, this stuff keeps happening within.

This is REAL LIFE, not some made for TV spin, like the talk show pretending to be news, and the entertainment movies, this is the "Reality of Life" that we are living, but we are too timid in mind to face it and see it.

Society did that for 100's of years, blinding itself to the vile inhumane madness and treachery of horrors of slavery, we did it again for 100 yrs with the inhumanity of segregation and devastation it caused, not just to blacks but to poor whites as well, while the wealthy amassed fortunes and made the general population more impoverished as every decade came and passed.

We live a phone life, like that of "slave owners", going to town dressed fancy, in a fancy house and calling themselves Gentleman and Ladies, while they lived Plantation that promoted every vile and horror imaginable from rapes to torture, child molestation and every form of deviant act they could dream up, with every level of debauchery one could imagine, and then think a "fancy suit of clothes and a strut down main street, or a glutton ball", made them something they were not and could never be. and society was lulled into "a near worship like madness of these people, based on material wealthy and pomp and pageantry"... That results to create nothing but a society that is pagan with a worship of men of savagery, like that of a wolf dressed in sheep clothing, while it wreaked savagery by the days..

Democracy must be built by and upon "Truths", those faced, presented, exposed, disclosed and the truths lived. it is not something that the "faint of heart can live nor achieve". Democracy can only be hand by those strong enough to build and create and support it. Most can't even support and promote the simplest of its principles, which is Equality in All Things of Human Presence of Being and the Humanity of Living...based on the premise of Full Circle Civil and Civic Equality.
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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
1. Really...a left handed attack on Democrats hidden in what some might call excessive verbiage...
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:03 AM
May 2018

" Far too many politicians, especially REPUBLICAN" (not limited to right?)" have positions that violate their own States Preamble, which outlines what its Constitution is designed to promote, support and protect.
This act of Party Line Politic's has damaged the nation and insulted the premise and basis of function of our Congress. We the people, "did not knowing and willingly desire to elect "puppets" to be mastered by the Speaker of the House, nor by the Chairman of the Senate. They are to represent the State, honor its State Constitution and Accord itself to the respectful honoring of the "United States Constitution. "

So we should not vote for Democrats who don't do whatever you are consider their er duty and let the GOP win...alrighty...so not following any of your er 'suggestions'.

How about this...every good thing you advocate for (even the confusing stuff) could be achieved by voting Democratic in every election. And you are dangerously close to advocating for third parties with the 'party line' comment.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
2. If that's what you got for it, that's your perogrotative
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:11 AM
May 2018

besides, I'm not concern about the volume of content, nor am I interested in brevity, so your comment about verbiage, is yours to have within what you interpret.

As to Democrats, as long as one is, and knows that the values of Democrats stand for and support the values of the nation, its people and understand the preamble and its values... is what any citizen should understand. "Voting is a Big Responsibility", not for haphazard engagement, and that is how we elect people who stand for, stand behind and promote Democratic Values.

Anything else you want to spin, is yours to do so. I've written what I wanted to write, and you are welcome to expound and generate your own independent ideas if you find provocation or inspiration or motivation to do so. That's the natures premise of and within public Forums... If you want to Joust, be my guest, others may care to joust with you.

I'm interested in talking about and doing exactly what I wrote. Promote the "education in Civics Education, deal with the reality of the challenges that exist in our society, and pursue a great and better functioning Democracy.

I'm certainly not here to patronize anyone nor to pursue appeasing anyone either. When I vote, I vote my choice, values and my understanding as well as my desire for the Democratic values that promote Democracy.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
5. I quoted you directly...you said 'especially Republicans' and used the term' party line'
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:22 AM
May 2018

how else should I interpret it except as support for third parties? What other meaning is there? I have no idea why you are here and don't care. I am here to support Democrats, the Democratic Party and to elect Democrats. I actually read the posts so I read yours. Everyone has a point of view which is what I like about DU...very interesting discussions.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
7. if you grasp the context of the post, it is TALKING ABOUT DEMOCRATIC VALUES,
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:47 AM
May 2018

As with any Democratic Politician, they should if they claim to be Democrats, understand and vote the voice of the people, as they were elected to do. As a party, if they (being Democrats) respect and honor the values of the platform... then they will vote accordingly... and in doing so... they will vote the values of the party, for Democratic values for Democracy. They too must understand and value the Democratic Ideals that are to be in accord with the States Preamble, as well as the Preamble of the United States of America.

What we don't need is voiceless Democratic Politicians, we need Democratic Politicians who hold the value dear and true to NATURALLY AND INSTINCTIVELY be INSPIRED to promote their voice. We don't have time for weak or frail Representatives of our Politician system, we must know and demand Strong Democratic Voices in those we elect to lead the Democratic Agenda.

Heck, in all real truth, we had too many weak people who did not speak up during Obama's term, and their silence and passive stance and lackluster spread of the Democratic Message, in ALL areas of this country, allowed, the Republican Narrative to Dominate and over take the congress. That is a Fact of Reality that Happened. Right this day, with all the dissension created by Republican... EVERY DEMOCRATIC POLITICIAN, SHOULD BE OUT, AND VOCAL, SO EVERYONE CAN BE FULL ON AWARE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE OF WHOM THEY ARE AND THE SUPPORT THEY ARE IN OFFICE TO PROVIDE AND PROMOTE, yet, in the media we only have a few who use their voice, and a mass of others sit silent. afraid to do what they were elected to do and that is get out and arouse and inspire the people with Democratic Narrative and Promote the Democratic Agenda. not just when they are up for re-election, - they are there to do this work EVERYDAY. For Two Terms, they were lackluster and did not rally the support for the Programs of Obama's Administration, and two time, allowed the Republican to dominate the congress and still they did not get out and promote the Agenda to ensure that people in all areas and district's were informed correctly of the Democratic Values. If they had, we'd still have control of Congress and we'd have the Office of Presidency under Democratic Control for the sake and longevity and sustaining of our Democracy.


 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
8. We had a thrid party person hitching a ride on the Democratic Platform,
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:54 AM
May 2018

and all they did was "split the vote" and many of their followers abstained from voting, and we have such again, claiming they will run on the Democratic Ticket, but won't accept the nomination, which again, does nothing but stand in the way of full on Democratic Candidates.... I don't give a hoot about this third party madness that has continually shown and demonstrated a diminishing of votes to support the Democratic platform, its values and its agenda. As a result such stuff, does nothing but open the door for Republicans.... so, you are talking to the wrong person is you think I am in support of some Third party disruptions of our political system and the Democratic agenda.
We have third party people in this site, who can't stand for anyone to speak any truth about third party that continues to bash and trash the Democratic Platform and its Agenda, but still wants to ride on its Party Platform. I see such as vote splitting, when they are not going to vote for Democratic Platform Agenda.... but want to make use of the Party as if they are a dam that splits a flowing river of Democratic Values and Agenda.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
4. I said not a damn thing about a third party, that's your spin...
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:21 AM
May 2018

One thing about this forum, it has no quota on "Thread Creation" if you don't like whats written, you are more than welcome and certainly free to write one of your own devise.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
9. this statement is for "ALL American People"....
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:11 AM
May 2018

(( "We need to stop electing people who tell in their campaigning what type of "tyrannical being they will be", we need to stop electing people who campaign based on "attack posture and mentality", and we need to stop electing people, who have no concept or concern that their "congressional votes are not their to make alone, they are to vote the voice and representation of the people", not their own personal dictates upon and over the people" )) It is directed directly at people primarily who vote in Republican people to public office!!!! based on incessant attack ads and attack everything mentality, and follow blindly the Republican agenda of its party, with absolutely no regard for the nation, its people or the values of the states they hail from own preamble and constitutional values, nor those of the U.S. Preamble and its Constitutional Expanse.

State Preambles are not party specific, they are State Specific.... and many Republican "IGNORE" every element of those Preambles and the States Constitution... with their incessant acts and votes that seek to diminish the welfare of its people, damage education and play gerrymandering games that is a dis-service to the states voting public, and then push their biased policies that are directed to disenfranchise minorities and use the poor whites as collateral damage in doing so.

I should not have to spell it out in such ways, when the whole point and premise of the writing is about "strong democracy" based on strong Democratic Values that promote Full On and Full Circle Democracy. We we see Republican attacking every Department and Division of our Government and Every element of a Judicial System and insulting our own Intelligence community, and pandering to a Tyrannical Greed Driven Mad man, who has insulted everything about and of America and its Allied nations, while destroying our valued Diplomatic corp of Diplomats.


We are thinking people, and what's written is for the thinking minds to expand and expound upon as well as ingest and digest and push their vocal support of the values that improve our Democracy, and as we see today and know for a fact, that can only be done by Democratic Platform and Democratic Agenda being Promoted and Supported. And Gaining Control of the Democratic Narrative by having Strong Democrats who work everyday to dominantly promote the Democratic Narratives which speak on the Values of the Democratic Agenda for Democracy's Growth and Betterment.

We don't have time for passivity, when we are faced with a Rabid and Vile Republican System, that continues to demonstrate they don't give a damn about Democracy. They care about the wealthy and the creation of a plutocratic system, that functions like the Plutocracy that was the basis of the Confederacy.
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