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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:19 AM May 2018

A Sad Memorial Day Story

About 30 years ago, my wife at the time and I had visitors from England staying with us over Memorial Day. They asked if we could all attend the Memorial Day ceremony being held in our small community. We, of course, said yes. So, we went early so we could find places in the folding chairs set up at the local cemetery.

As is typical of such ceremonies, there were a few WWII and Korean War veterans in attendance, wearing old uniforms. I was sitting next to one veteran who had managed to get into his old Marine enlisted dress uniform one more time.

As is also typical of those ceremonies, there was a recital of the Pledge of Allegiance. Everyone stood and that recital began. The Marine veteran noticed that our British guests were not speaking, and looked them. He then loudly hissed "Say the Pledge, dammit!" in their direction. They said nothing, and simply looked ahead. The guy glared at them harshly.

After the Pledge, everyone took their seat. At that point, I turned to the guy in the uniform, leaned near him and quietly said, "They're British citizens, not Americans. You were extremely rude to our guests." He did not apologize, but looked angrily at them again. I apologized for him later.

Sadly, people make all sorts of assumptions and, all too often, blurt out their frustrations on the basis of those assumptions. In crowds, at events like that one, at sporting events, and in other places where public displays of patriotism occur, there are often people who are not American citizens. It's a shame that some don't recognize that and hold their tongues when some people do not participate.

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A Sad Memorial Day Story (Original Post) MineralMan May 2018 OP
Not purporting to speak for all veterans, I'm sorry. TomSlick May 2018 #1
You are correct, of course, and many military members and veterans MineralMan May 2018 #3
Another 'more patriotic than thou' hammerhead. Aristus May 2018 #2

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
1. Not purporting to speak for all veterans, I'm sorry.
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:51 AM
May 2018

There are Americans, who for religious or political reasons, cannot recite the Pledge of Allegiance. All members of the military took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes the right not to recite the Pledge - for any reason or no reason. The Marine veteran in your story forgot why he served.

Being rude to visitors is simply wrong. Refusing to apologize simply shows weakness.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
3. You are correct, of course, and many military members and veterans
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:58 AM
May 2018

don't take oaths and pledges.

I feel sorry for that terminally angry and frustrated old veteran. His bitterness and anger was no doubt eating him alive. I'm sure he is no longer alive today. He was old then. I hope he found some sort of peace before he passed.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
2. Another 'more patriotic than thou' hammerhead.
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:56 AM
May 2018

I don't care if he served. He's worthless to our society.

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